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This entire response reeks of ignorance and, ironically, pretention.Originally Posted by gambit215
Originally Posted by AntonLaVey
First off, I rarely start religious threads but I do comment in most of them. I suppose that's understandable...comes with the territory of being NTs resident hedon. I get credit for creating damn near every religious thread on NT
Hmm so to become an atheist one must go through a traumatic experience that lead them to reject their God? Did every child who stopped believing in Santa clause and the their imaginary friend go through a traumatic experience? Is it at all plausible that a lot of converted atheists become that way because the question the infallibility of their religion from a logical standpoint? Of course not.
5 billion people CAN be crazy, there's a reason why it's called the "Opium of the masses".
There are societies that are "Godless" who have a good concept of right from wrong. On the other hand throughout history there have been extremely religious societies who encourage a culture of inhumanity, hatred, war etc in the name of mythical creatures. You can't pray to God to take you to heaven when you own slaves and sacrifice your enemies. The concept of morality is actually very simple, religion seems to have this notion that the idea is exclusive to them which is far from the truth. All you have to do for proof of this is to look at history objectively. Many religions throughout history have preached positive consequences/reinforcement for immoral behaviors.
Not only good "deeds" are rewarded by religion, anybody who thinks so is naive.
Lastly, if you're too insecure in your "faith" to have these discussions stay out of the damn thread.
Aint nobody insecure. There is a God out there, but like I said before every week some of you seem to get off on starting a thread, having us defend ourselves and put up smileys, memes and pictures to play people, like any of YOU have the answer yourselves. The life is full of mystery, instead of trying to prove people wrong or make them look stupid, just go on with your life. I doubt anyone on this board are killing or raping people in the name of God. Are we all hypocrites most Definitely, do I sit and question God's existence sometimes?, I would have to be a mindless slug not to, but thats the beauty of life, you have the freedom to think for yourself without having all the answers, there isnt a cosmic power out there ready to punish on some Minority report !!%. There are rational believers who do not let their religion determine how they think or live. God isnt a magic genie who conjures up things in the snap of a finger. Religious societies have been violent due to the immense POWER/CONTROL religions have, We created religions not God, and with everything we COMPLICATE the hell out everything. The same way you shake your heads at us, we look at you the same way. We pity you the same way you pity us, we think you are crazy the same you think we are crazy. The fact you are even typing a response with your nose in the air is a miracle upon itself. This is going NOWHERE, if some of you were successful in changing someones mind about God, good for you, just more company in hell.......
-Whoever brought up the whole we all thought the earth was flat thing is STUPID. WE thought the earth was Flat and the earth was the center of the Universe because we had NO IDEA.With knowledge we got our minds right. We still have NO IDEA when it comes to God.
BTW, if you think theres no afterlife and the rest of your existence is rotting away in the ground getting eaten by maggots than I really dont have any other word to call you but a miserable human being, like why just not off yourself and get the process started early as you are contributing NOTHING to the rest of the world.
Answer this, what's a rational believer? Actually, before we get ahead of ourselves, what is the definition of rational? For one to be rational, one must be agreeable to reason. A belief in a supernatural god requires one to suspend their ability to be reasonable. Does believing in something that is invisible and has no evidence of ever being fall under being rational? I think not.
And wow, you really think because you believe in an afterlife that we're just wasting our time on this world? And you have the nerve to call out atheists for having their noses in the air? Please.
I'd argue that atheists cherish life more than those that believe in an afterlife. Why? Because this is the only life we're ever going to experience! We're not busy worrying about following some archaic rules in a book. I'd also contend that atheists care more about the world we live on since this is going to be the only world we'll ever experience. I've heard too many religious folk spout off about how this world is a hollow shell doomed to damnation and that sustaining the environment is a futile effort. We're not going to be "rotting away in the ground getting eaten by maggots" as you so eloquently put it because we'll be dead. We will have ceased to exist. I don't see a problem with life ending just like that. The idea of a lifeless body underground being used by other organisms to continue the cycle of life is not scary. It's actually rather beautiful.