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Oh so we going back to the Puffy made Big's songs nonsense? Only idiots believe that nonsense. 95% of Big's catalog
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ppl who say pac was better is saying it because biggie was a fat dude...part of having a favorite anything is seeing yourself in it and no one wants to be fat..thats daOriginally Posted by Harlem On The Rise
Pac's "music" was better?? Even tho BIG was a BETTER:
Rapper
Lyricist
MC
Songwriter
So I suppose 2Pacalyspenow is a better debut than RTD?? Strictly For My Nz is BETTER than LAD??
Cats sell BIG short, he went from the Lyricist Lounge to Mary J remixes, Supercat, appeared on HITs with Total... Craig Mack... 112, Did a joint with $%@$+# Michael Jackson... Junior Mafia's album was MUCH more successful than that Thug Life... Guided the careers of Lil Kim... He was the brains behind No Way Out (when it was titled Puff Daddy's Hell Up In Harlem)...
Cats just point to 3 or 4 songs from early in Pac's career, but those albums were VERY average...
I don't remember ANYone when I was growing up referring to either of those albums as great pieces of work...
Even Makaveli which is the east coasts fav Pac album... When that #++$ first dropped Ns was sayin it was wack... I'm guessin all of yall convinetly forgot that tho...
Pac's good song to bad song ratio was closer to Lil Wayne's... He made like 200 million songs and is remembered for about 35-40... I guess that makes him better...
ppl who say pac was better is saying it because biggie was a fat dude...part of having a favorite anything is seeing yourself in it and no one wants to be fat..thats daOriginally Posted by Harlem On The Rise
Pac's "music" was better?? Even tho BIG was a BETTER:
Rapper
Lyricist
MC
Songwriter
So I suppose 2Pacalyspenow is a better debut than RTD?? Strictly For My Nz is BETTER than LAD??
Cats sell BIG short, he went from the Lyricist Lounge to Mary J remixes, Supercat, appeared on HITs with Total... Craig Mack... 112, Did a joint with $%@$+# Michael Jackson... Junior Mafia's album was MUCH more successful than that Thug Life... Guided the careers of Lil Kim... He was the brains behind No Way Out (when it was titled Puff Daddy's Hell Up In Harlem)...
Cats just point to 3 or 4 songs from early in Pac's career, but those albums were VERY average...
I don't remember ANYone when I was growing up referring to either of those albums as great pieces of work...
Even Makaveli which is the east coasts fav Pac album... When that #++$ first dropped Ns was sayin it was wack... I'm guessin all of yall convinetly forgot that tho...
Pac's good song to bad song ratio was closer to Lil Wayne's... He made like 200 million songs and is remembered for about 35-40... I guess that makes him better...
Originally Posted by Harlem On The Rise
Take away Suge & Pac's still gettin trains ran on him in Clinton...
Originally Posted by Harlem On The Rise
Take away Suge & Pac's still gettin trains ran on him in Clinton...
Originally Posted by Master Zik
Oh so we going back to the Puffy made Big's songs nonsense? Only idiots believe that nonsense. 95% of Big's catalog
Originally Posted by Master Zik
Oh so we going back to the Puffy made Big's songs nonsense? Only idiots believe that nonsense. 95% of Big's catalog
Originally Posted by cartune
Originally Posted by Doe Or Die 22
Ambitionz Az A Ridah is 2pac's version of Victory?
LMFAO, thank you; I rest my case.
Good cause if you think "The sun dont shine forever" is more recognizable than "I cant deny it Im a !@+%@% rider" you already live under a stone.
Biggie could rap circles around Pac. But take away Puffy and you take away 95% of Biggie's catalog. Pac crafted SONGS.
You New York N's are all the same
Why does everybody who argues for BIG have to be from NY? I don't understand it. I swear I see it everytime this argument comes up. So are you saying location makes you biased?
Originally Posted by cartune
Originally Posted by Doe Or Die 22
Ambitionz Az A Ridah is 2pac's version of Victory?
LMFAO, thank you; I rest my case.
Good cause if you think "The sun dont shine forever" is more recognizable than "I cant deny it Im a !@+%@% rider" you already live under a stone.
Biggie could rap circles around Pac. But take away Puffy and you take away 95% of Biggie's catalog. Pac crafted SONGS.
You New York N's are all the same
Why does everybody who argues for BIG have to be from NY? I don't understand it. I swear I see it everytime this argument comes up. So are you saying location makes you biased?
[/h4][h4]10 “Juicy[/h4]
[/h4][h4]10 “Juicy[/h4]
and with the exception of Juicy... I don't like most of their work together.Originally Posted by Dapper D
Ya'll N's ****ing on puff but I remember reading in the making of Ready to Die that Big wanted to do all street +### while Puff was trying to convince him to do more pop +###...
and with the exception of Juicy... I don't like most of their work together.Originally Posted by Dapper D
Ya'll N's ****ing on puff but I remember reading in the making of Ready to Die that Big wanted to do all street +### while Puff was trying to convince him to do more pop +###...
Originally Posted by ninjahood
ppl who say pac was better is saying it because biggie was a fat dude...part of having a favorite anything is seeing yourself in it and no one wants to be fat..thats daOriginally Posted by Harlem On The Rise
Pac's "music" was better?? Even tho BIG was a BETTER:
Rapper
Lyricist
MC
Songwriter
So I suppose 2Pacalyspenow is a better debut than RTD?? Strictly For My Nz is BETTER than LAD??
Cats sell BIG short, he went from the Lyricist Lounge to Mary J remixes, Supercat, appeared on HITs with Total... Craig Mack... 112, Did a joint with $%@$+# Michael Jackson... Junior Mafia's album was MUCH more successful than that Thug Life... Guided the careers of Lil Kim... He was the brains behind No Way Out (when it was titled Puff Daddy's Hell Up In Harlem)...
Cats just point to 3 or 4 songs from early in Pac's career, but those albums were VERY average...
I don't remember ANYone when I was growing up referring to either of those albums as great pieces of work...
Even Makaveli which is the east coasts fav Pac album... When that #++$ first dropped Ns was sayin it was wack... I'm guessin all of yall convinetly forgot that tho...
Pac's good song to bad song ratio was closer to Lil Wayne's... He made like 200 million songs and is remembered for about 35-40... I guess that makes him better...
elephant in da room.
biggie was better then pac in everything except his weight.
Originally Posted by ninjahood
ppl who say pac was better is saying it because biggie was a fat dude...part of having a favorite anything is seeing yourself in it and no one wants to be fat..thats daOriginally Posted by Harlem On The Rise
Pac's "music" was better?? Even tho BIG was a BETTER:
Rapper
Lyricist
MC
Songwriter
So I suppose 2Pacalyspenow is a better debut than RTD?? Strictly For My Nz is BETTER than LAD??
Cats sell BIG short, he went from the Lyricist Lounge to Mary J remixes, Supercat, appeared on HITs with Total... Craig Mack... 112, Did a joint with $%@$+# Michael Jackson... Junior Mafia's album was MUCH more successful than that Thug Life... Guided the careers of Lil Kim... He was the brains behind No Way Out (when it was titled Puff Daddy's Hell Up In Harlem)...
Cats just point to 3 or 4 songs from early in Pac's career, but those albums were VERY average...
I don't remember ANYone when I was growing up referring to either of those albums as great pieces of work...
Even Makaveli which is the east coasts fav Pac album... When that #++$ first dropped Ns was sayin it was wack... I'm guessin all of yall convinetly forgot that tho...
Pac's good song to bad song ratio was closer to Lil Wayne's... He made like 200 million songs and is remembered for about 35-40... I guess that makes him better...
elephant in da room.
biggie was better then pac in everything except his weight.
So Puff gave Big the concept for Juicy. Who wrote the lyrics? Who actually produced the beat? How does this song account for 95% of Big's catalog? What's the evidence that 95% of Big's catalog is accounted for Puff or wouldn't be good if Puff wasn't around?Originally Posted by cartune
Its documented that Juicy the whole conept of the song was Puff's idea
hell just about every song that made Biggie a commercial success was produced by Diddy.
Exactly in what context are you using the word produce? This is such a dumb argument. Puff gives an idea/concept who wrote the lyrics? Who structured the damn song?
What Im saying is compare what Pac did without the hottest Exec in the game. His albums had alot of fillers but the songs that "hit" are more recognized than Biggies.
More recognized to who?
So you slighting Big cuz Puff was good at his job and somehow giving Pac the one up cuz he had albums with filler but the hits were more recognized than Big's to you?
I think I read somewhere Changes is a top 5 song according to the Pope or some $%@+.
You can't seriously think this supports anything you say. It's funny cuz I know the article you talking about but tell me how dropping a famous name that's not associated with hip hop means anything.
So Puff gave Big the concept for Juicy. Who wrote the lyrics? Who actually produced the beat? How does this song account for 95% of Big's catalog? What's the evidence that 95% of Big's catalog is accounted for Puff or wouldn't be good if Puff wasn't around?Originally Posted by cartune
Its documented that Juicy the whole conept of the song was Puff's idea
hell just about every song that made Biggie a commercial success was produced by Diddy.
Exactly in what context are you using the word produce? This is such a dumb argument. Puff gives an idea/concept who wrote the lyrics? Who structured the damn song?
What Im saying is compare what Pac did without the hottest Exec in the game. His albums had alot of fillers but the songs that "hit" are more recognized than Biggies.
More recognized to who?
So you slighting Big cuz Puff was good at his job and somehow giving Pac the one up cuz he had albums with filler but the hits were more recognized than Big's to you?
I think I read somewhere Changes is a top 5 song according to the Pope or some $%@+.
You can't seriously think this supports anything you say. It's funny cuz I know the article you talking about but tell me how dropping a famous name that's not associated with hip hop means anything.