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You can say what you want about it but is marketing. Kids buy it for a different reason than oldheads and there is nothing wrong with that. There is not enough oldheads for Nike to make that kind of profit from them. Even before the sneaker bubble it was mostly the new collectors spending that kind of loot.This. Whenever it happens, I'll be there to continue, but I have a feeling there will be nothing left once it does. It's amazing how he still has an effect. It boggles my mind how kids that are teenagers to young 20's buy kicks at a crazy pace but have never seen him play. I think that's the beef with older "collectors" vs. younger "collectors". Simply the reason, older people saw him play which made them buy the kicks. Younger people buy because itss popular. The common thread is that they are classic shoes that everyone loves, we just take the reason for buying them personal.
This. Whenever it happens, I'll be there to continue, but I have a feeling there will be nothing left once it does. It's amazing how he still has an effect. It boggles my mind how kids that are teenagers to young 20's buy kicks at a crazy pace but have never seen him play. I think that's the beef with older "collectors" vs. younger "collectors". Simply the reason, older people saw him play which made them buy the kicks. Younger people buy because itss popular. The common thread is that they are classic shoes that everyone loves, we just take the reason for buying them personal.
all old heads with this logic are annoying.
1.) people from teens to early 20s have seen space jam, we've seen all the highlights, if you have ESPN Classic or NBA TV you can catch some of his full games. Some of us didn't see him play live or experience the hype while he was in in the league, but that doesn't mean we don't view him as a legend and understand the hype he had. when i was a kid i saw space jam, his highlights, & had a documentary of his on VHS so trust and believe i viewed him as some sort of basketball god who could never lose. you don't think that would make us want to buy his shoes? AND they're popular so that's a plus.
2.) starting at probably age 5 i feel like a normal child can grasp the idea of fame/celebrity and hype. if everyone around you is praising and stopping everything they're doing to watch a person play...you get how big that is. So...if you're 20...you were 5 when he won his last championship. If you were around an adult who watched sports you knew what was going on and how big it was. Plus as you grew older his presence and celebrity never left...it's still MICHAEL JORDAN! so since y'all saw him play y'all are the only ones who can "wanna be like Mike?" NO. You think I wasn't at recess playing in my mini Jays thinking i could jump that much higher? miss me w/ that
/rant
You can say what you want about it but is marketing. Kids buy it for a different reason than oldheads and there is nothing wrong with that. There is not enough oldheads for Nike to make that kind of profit from them. Even before the sneaker bubble it was mostly the new collectors spending that kind of loot.This. Whenever it happens, I'll be there to continue, but I have a feeling there will be nothing left once it does. It's amazing how he still has an effect. It boggles my mind how kids that are teenagers to young 20's buy kicks at a crazy pace but have never seen him play. I think that's the beef with older "collectors" vs. younger "collectors". Simply the reason, older people saw him play which made them buy the kicks. Younger people buy because itss popular. The common thread is that they are classic shoes that everyone loves, we just take the reason for buying them personal.
This. Whenever it happens, I'll be there to continue, but I have a feeling there will be nothing left once it does. It's amazing how he still has an effect. It boggles my mind how kids that are teenagers to young 20's buy kicks at a crazy pace but have never seen him play. I think that's the beef with older "collectors" vs. younger "collectors". Simply the reason, older people saw him play which made them buy the kicks. Younger people buy because itss popular. The common thread is that they are classic shoes that everyone loves, we just take the reason for buying them personal.
all old heads with this logic are annoying.
1.) people from teens to early 20s have seen space jam, we've seen all the highlights, if you have ESPN Classic or NBA TV you can catch some of his full games. Some of us didn't see him play live or experience the hype while he was in in the league, but that doesn't mean we don't view him as a legend and understand the hype he had. when i was a kid i saw space jam, his highlights, & had a documentary of his on VHS so trust and believe i viewed him as some sort of basketball god who could never lose. you don't think that would make us want to buy his shoes? AND they're popular so that's a plus.
2.) starting at probably age 5 i feel like a normal child can grasp the idea of fame/celebrity and hype. if everyone around you is praising and stopping everything they're doing to watch a person play...you get how big that is. So...if you're 20...you were 5 when he won his last championship. If you were around an adult who watched sports you knew what was going on and how big it was. Plus as you grew older his presence and celebrity never left...it's still MICHAEL JORDAN! so since y'all saw him play y'all are the only ones who can "wanna be like Mike?" NO. You think I wasn't at recess playing in my mini Jays thinking i could jump that much higher? miss me w/ that
/rant
I'm not a young guy, and I really don't understand how everyone has the money to buy EVERY release (must not have much in savings), but the older generation's hatred of younger collectors is consistent with our ethos.
I read this great piece by Malcolm Gladwell called Cool Hunting (link: http://gladwell.com/1997/1997_03_17_a_cool.htm) and it really explains the quest for authenticity. MJ is one of the most authentic athletes (on the court), but we older guys think there's no way for younger people to authentically appreciate shoes that came out while they were still in the womb. We're obsessed with authenticity, but the love of our shoes by younger folks seems really inauthentic to most of us. But frankly, older folks need to realize younger people buy his authenticity because we buy his authenticity.
No, it doesn't have anything to do with younger people having the same love for MJ--no offense kids, but you can't. You can't understand him the way I can't understand Babe Ruth. But, the cultural perception of MJ is so strong that his halo will propel sales and interest for years to come. We love Jordan because we saw a legend, young people love Jordan because he's an urban legend.
Secretz, regarding the first paragraph - alot of these new 'collectors' just 'lease' kicks. They take pics with 'em, rock 'em for a bit then sell them to get the next hottest/hyped kick. It's an endless cycle, granted that some of them are genuinely wealthy but a significant portion just buy, rock and flip in a short period of time.
And that essentially leads you to the allure of JB product - there's no urban legend or feeling of authenticity. JB products are trendy, fashion items - no ifs or buts about it my man. The same dudes that were rockin' chunky skateboarding kicks, F1 racing shoes and Vans in the early and mid to late '00s have switched to Nike/JB.
What I should have said is I can't wait for the Jordan bubble to pop, which will eventually happen. The majority of these younger heads are nothing more than trend following sheep. Something will come along and replace JB as the "cool thing" to wear and just like SB's only the real enthusiast will remain.I guess I'll see you next lifetime.
Secretz, regarding the first paragraph - alot of these new 'collectors' just 'lease' kicks. They take pics with 'em, rock 'em for a bit then sell them to get the next hottest/hyped kick. It's an endless cycle, granted that some of them are genuinely wealthy but a significant portion just buy, rock and flip in a short period of time.
And that essentially leads you to the allure of JB product - there's no urban legend or feeling of authenticity. JB products are trendy, fashion items - no ifs or buts about it my man. The same dudes that were rockin' chunky skateboarding kicks, F1 racing shoes and Vans in the early and mid to late '00s have switched to Nike/JB.
This. Whenever it happens, I'll be there to continue, but I have a feeling there will be nothing left once it does. It's amazing how he still has an effect. It boggles my mind how kids that are teenagers to young 20's buy kicks at a crazy pace but have never seen him play. I think that's the beef with older "collectors" vs. younger "collectors". Simply the reason, older people saw him play which made them buy the kicks. Younger people buy because itss popular. The common thread is that they are classic shoes that everyone loves, we just take the reason for buying them personal.
so... did u smash?