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yeah i'm officially done wit son
Has anyone read the Bible? LOL @ these passages
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Exactly my point. She is Adams first wife, so why is she NOT in the Bible? Someone mentioned picking and choosing...
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Exactly my point. She is Adams first wife, so why is she NOT in the Bible? Someone mentioned picking and choosing...
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I think I can speak on fresh2def's behalf as I am a religious person too, regardless of the fact that I'm not christian but muslim. I have heard a very progressive muslim scholar by the name of hamza yusuf address the issue about whether or not people who are born into indigenous cultures who are not exposed to other ways of thinking are going to be hell bound. now in islam, as I'm sure you have heard, there are some verses that refer to infidels in very condescending ways - to say the least - but most people fail to realize that the word infidel is not defined as "non-muslim" but rather as a denier of the religion and as a person who prevents muslims from practicing their religion (as stated in Surah 9). People often times take a number of verses from the quran completely out of context, yet they choose to pass judgement on the religion and book without having read more than 5 verses. How can anyone respect someone else's opinion if the person who's opinion is being shared does not have an extensive knowledge of what he is talking about? It's the equivalent of someone talking out of their...
Keep in mind that one key difference between islam and christianity is that in Islam you can be a muslim and be hell bound for your sins. Also keep in mind that in islam we refer to allah as the most merciful, the sustainer, the most exalted so therefore I, as a muslim, assume that Allah will make the most fair decision on the day of judgement.
I, personally, see the quran and hadith as fair and just. For example, this particular hadith (a hadith is a saying or activity that was reported to be done or said by Muhammad) says "Whoever has oppressed another person concerning his reputation or anything else, he should beg him to forgive him before the Day of Resurrection when there will be no money (to compensate for wrong deeds), but if he has good deeds, those good deeds will be taken from him according to his oppression which he has done, and if he has no good deeds, the sins of the oppressed person will be loaded on him."
The bold part is particularly powerful to me as it is an example of how just god will be on the day of judgement. Keep in mind that in any court of law in the USA, United nations or elsewhere a ruling that is, in principle, similar to this would be outrageous. Imagine if the CEO of Disney was being tried for the crimes that Disney's Hatian sweatshop workers commit. It would be absurd.
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I think I can speak on fresh2def's behalf as I am a religious person too, regardless of the fact that I'm not christian but muslim. I have heard a very progressive muslim scholar by the name of hamza yusuf address the issue about whether or not people who are born into indigenous cultures who are not exposed to other ways of thinking are going to be hell bound. now in islam, as I'm sure you have heard, there are some verses that refer to infidels in very condescending ways - to say the least - but most people fail to realize that the word infidel is not defined as "non-muslim" but rather as a denier of the religion and as a person who prevents muslims from practicing their religion (as stated in Surah 9). People often times take a number of verses from the quran completely out of context, yet they choose to pass judgement on the religion and book without having read more than 5 verses. How can anyone respect someone else's opinion if the person who's opinion is being shared does not have an extensive knowledge of what he is talking about? It's the equivalent of someone talking out of their...
Keep in mind that one key difference between islam and christianity is that in Islam you can be a muslim and be hell bound for your sins. Also keep in mind that in islam we refer to allah as the most merciful, the sustainer, the most exalted so therefore I, as a muslim, assume that Allah will make the most fair decision on the day of judgement.
I, personally, see the quran and hadith as fair and just. For example, this particular hadith (a hadith is a saying or activity that was reported to be done or said by Muhammad) says "Whoever has oppressed another person concerning his reputation or anything else, he should beg him to forgive him before the Day of Resurrection when there will be no money (to compensate for wrong deeds), but if he has good deeds, those good deeds will be taken from him according to his oppression which he has done, and if he has no good deeds, the sins of the oppressed person will be loaded on him."
The bold part is particularly powerful to me as it is an example of how just god will be on the day of judgement. Keep in mind that in any court of law in the USA, United nations or elsewhere a ruling that is, in principle, similar to this would be outrageous. Imagine if the CEO of Disney was being tried for the crimes that Disney's Hatian sweatshop workers commit. It would be absurd.
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Love to sit inon the Senate, And tell the whole government, Y'all don't treat womenfair, She read about herself in the bible, Believing she the reasonsin is here, You played her, with an apron, Like, "Bring me mydinner, dear."
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I feel ya man, currently I'm reading the lost books of the bible to fully grasp as to why they blotted/removed it out of the bible in the first place.
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^Originally Posted by south sole
Originally Posted by Nat Turner
Originally Posted by PhilBalla09
God Bless you FReSHtaDeFF03but as you know this is NT so you're gonna get made fun of as an other believer
.... it's the same 3/4 people making religion threads or noobs...every damm week it seems
oh sweet women verses....some of you should go listen to some some seminars of women who are scholars and are in the ministry. alot of scholars said it was written to restrict women in the city Ephesus. At that time Ephesus had a temple, Artemis, a false Greek/Roman goddess.
in fact...
Acts 18:26
He began to speak boldly in the synagogue. When Priscilla and Aquila heard him, they invited him to their home and explained to him the way of God more adequately.
Romans 16
[sup]1[/sup]I commend to you our sister Phoebe, a servant[sup][a][/sup] of the church in Cenchrea. [sup]2[/sup]I ask you to receive her in the Lord in a way worthy of the saints and to give her any help she may need from you, for she has been a great help to many people, including me. [sup]3[/sup]Greet Priscilla[sup][b][/sup] and Aquila, my fellow workers in Christ Jesus. [sup]4[/sup]They risked their lives for me. Not only I but all the churches of the Gentiles are grateful to them. [sup]5[/sup]Greet also the church that meets at their house. Greet my dear friend Epenetus, who was the first convert to Christ in the province of Asia. [sup]6[/sup]Greet Mary, who worked very hard for you. [sup]7[/sup]Greet Andronicus and Junias, my relatives who have been in prison with me. They are outstanding among the apostles, and they were in Christ before I was. [sup]8[/sup]Greet Ampliatus, whom I love in the Lord. [sup]9[/sup]Greet Urbanus, our fellow worker in Christ, and my dear friend Stachys. [sup]10[/sup]Greet Apelles, tested and approved in Christ. Greet those who belong to the household of Aristobulus. [sup]11[/sup]Greet Herodion, my relative. Greet those in the household of Narcissus who are in the Lord. [sup]12[/sup]Greet Tryphena and Tryphosa, those women who work hard in the Lord. Greet my dear friend Persis, another woman who has worked very hard in the Lord. [sup]13[/sup]Greet Rufus, chosen in the Lord, and his mother, who has been a mother to me, too. [sup]14[/sup]Greet Asyncritus, Phlegon, Hermes, Patrobas, Hermas and the brothers with them. [sup]15[/sup]Greet Philologus, Julia, Nereus and his sister, and Olympas and all the saints with them. [sup]16[/sup]Greet one another with a holy kiss. All the churches of Christ send greetings.
just a couple of women in the bible who preached and were close to some of the disciples.
flat earth??? alot of scholars interepret 4 corners as North/South/East/West
also these verse says otherwise
Isaiah 40:22
He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth,
and its people are like grasshoppers.
He stretches out the heavens like a canopy,
and spreads them out like a tent to live in.
- Ecclesiastes 1:6
The wind goes toward the south,
And turns around to the north;
The wind whirls about continually,
And comes again on its circuit.
The Bible isn't just some book you can just read and think you can understand. You need to dig deep, study the history because each scripture has history. Picking and Choosing
Aren't you doing the same thing? Speaking of Women in the Bible, what happened with Lillith?
Since you've opened up the floor on picking and choosing, how was the bible put together exactly?
Here is what I've found...I'll post more later
"EnterDr Gary Greenberg, President of the New York Biblical
archeological society, he is a white Jew who afterthoroughly
investigating the Biblical accounts and history he aswell as quite a
few others have brought forth these truths to correctour story. The
truths he brought forth were 1. The original Jews wereNile Valley
Africans and 2. The Bible and it'scharacters/patriarchs etc lives and
stories were developed and based on the lives andstories of the
Pharoah's of Kemet. His landmark book is The BibleMyth: The African
Origins of the Jewish People. It is a must read. Inthe article he expands upon
the esoteric concepts in Genesis as they relate toNile Valley High
Culture"
Amazon product ASIN 1559723718
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^Originally Posted by south sole
Originally Posted by Nat Turner
Originally Posted by PhilBalla09
God Bless you FReSHtaDeFF03but as you know this is NT so you're gonna get made fun of as an other believer.... it's the same 3/4 people making religion threads or noobs...every damm week it seems
oh sweet women verses....some of you should go listen to some some seminars of women who are scholars and are in the ministry. alot of scholars said it was written to restrict women in the city Ephesus. At that time Ephesus had a temple, Artemis, a false Greek/Roman goddess.
in fact...
Acts 18:26
He began to speak boldly in the synagogue. When Priscilla and Aquila heard him, they invited him to their home and explained to him the way of God more adequately.
Romans 16
[sup]1[/sup]I commend to you our sister Phoebe, a servant[sup][a][/sup] of the church in Cenchrea. [sup]2[/sup]I ask you to receive her in the Lord in a way worthy of the saints and to give her any help she may need from you, for she has been a great help to many people, including me. [sup]3[/sup]Greet Priscilla[sup][b][/sup] and Aquila, my fellow workers in Christ Jesus. [sup]4[/sup]They risked their lives for me. Not only I but all the churches of the Gentiles are grateful to them. [sup]5[/sup]Greet also the church that meets at their house. Greet my dear friend Epenetus, who was the first convert to Christ in the province of Asia. [sup]6[/sup]Greet Mary, who worked very hard for you. [sup]7[/sup]Greet Andronicus and Junias, my relatives who have been in prison with me. They are outstanding among the apostles, and they were in Christ before I was. [sup]8[/sup]Greet Ampliatus, whom I love in the Lord. [sup]9[/sup]Greet Urbanus, our fellow worker in Christ, and my dear friend Stachys. [sup]10[/sup]Greet Apelles, tested and approved in Christ. Greet those who belong to the household of Aristobulus. [sup]11[/sup]Greet Herodion, my relative. Greet those in the household of Narcissus who are in the Lord. [sup]12[/sup]Greet Tryphena and Tryphosa, those women who work hard in the Lord. Greet my dear friend Persis, another woman who has worked very hard in the Lord. [sup]13[/sup]Greet Rufus, chosen in the Lord, and his mother, who has been a mother to me, too. [sup]14[/sup]Greet Asyncritus, Phlegon, Hermes, Patrobas, Hermas and the brothers with them. [sup]15[/sup]Greet Philologus, Julia, Nereus and his sister, and Olympas and all the saints with them. [sup]16[/sup]Greet one another with a holy kiss. All the churches of Christ send greetings.
just a couple of women in the bible who preached and were close to some of the disciples.
flat earth??? alot of scholars interepret 4 corners as North/South/East/West
also these verse says otherwise
Isaiah 40:22
He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth,
and its people are like grasshoppers.
He stretches out the heavens like a canopy,
and spreads them out like a tent to live in.
- Ecclesiastes 1:6
The wind goes toward the south,
And turns around to the north;
The wind whirls about continually,
And comes again on its circuit.
The Bible isn't just some book you can just read and think you can understand. You need to dig deep, study the history because each scripture has history. Picking and Choosing
Aren't you doing the same thing? Speaking of Women in the Bible, what happened with Lillith?
Since you've opened up the floor on picking and choosing, how was the bible put together exactly?
Here is what I've found...I'll post more later
"EnterDr Gary Greenberg, President of the New York Biblical
archeological society, he is a white Jew who afterthoroughly
investigating the Biblical accounts and history he aswell as quite a
few others have brought forth these truths to correctour story. The
truths he brought forth were 1. The original Jews wereNile Valley
Africans and 2. The Bible and it'scharacters/patriarchs etc lives and
stories were developed and based on the lives andstories of the
Pharoah's of Kemet. His landmark book is The BibleMyth: The African
Origins of the Jewish People. It is a must read. Inthe article he expands upon
the esoteric concepts in Genesis as they relate toNile Valley High
Culture"
Amazon product ASIN 1559723718
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translation: dont question what you're told peasant
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Love to sit inon the Senate, And tell the whole government, Y'all don't treat womenfair, She read about herself in the bible, Believing she the reasonsin is here, You played her, with an apron, Like, "Bring me mydinner, dear."
- Nas
I feel ya man, currently I'm reading the lost books of the bible to fully grasp as to why they blotted/removed it out of the bible in the first place.
Amazon product ASIN 0061626007
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translation: dont question what you're told peasant
nat turner
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I respect anyone who does their research and then responds. I can also respect the opinion of those who uses common sense and reason. I cannot respect someone who suggests that I cannot understand something, just because "God" is "all powerful".
Too much harm has been done in the name of "the god of abraham", for me NOT to question the existence of such a socalled "supreme deity".
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Are the pedophiles that are priests in the catholic church, going to heaven?
nat turner
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I respect anyone who does their research and then responds. I can also respect the opinion of those who uses common sense and reason. I cannot respect someone who suggests that I cannot understand something, just because "God" is "all powerful".
Too much harm has been done in the name of "the god of abraham", for me NOT to question the existence of such a socalled "supreme deity".
EDIT
Are the pedophiles that are priests in the catholic church, going to heaven?
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In thebiblical narratives the foundations of the stories parables and proverbs arebased on the Nile valley high culture. The esoteric wisdom and concepts withinthe bible were esoteric original African teachings plagiarized and adopted bythe people who compiled the bible. Which was eventually given to Africans underduress and they would become kidnap victims and eventual slaves of EuropeanXtians who bastardized these teachings and truths they got from the first XtianChurch the Egyptian Coptic Church. Many who are Xtians don’t necessarily have agrip on Nile Valley High Culture and its history so there is information thatonly those educated in history and religion and especially Egypt’s connectionto the foundations and origins Judeo-Xtian and Islamic traditions wouldunderstand.
I’m lookinginto what “Theban doctrine
I’m lookinginto what “Theban doctrine
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In thebiblical narratives the foundations of the stories parables and proverbs arebased on the Nile valley high culture. The esoteric wisdom and concepts withinthe bible were esoteric original African teachings plagiarized and adopted bythe people who compiled the bible. Which was eventually given to Africans underduress and they would become kidnap victims and eventual slaves of EuropeanXtians who bastardized these teachings and truths they got from the first XtianChurch the Egyptian Coptic Church. Many who are Xtians don’t necessarily have agrip on Nile Valley High Culture and its history so there is information thatonly those educated in history and religion and especially Egypt’s connectionto the foundations and origins Judeo-Xtian and Islamic traditions wouldunderstand.
I’m lookinginto what “Theban doctrine
I’m lookinginto what “Theban doctrine
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I believe in God. But its clear that the Bible especially the KJV was written by men with motives. Too many contradictions, too much evidence supporting the corruption of the book.
Massimo Franceschini, an Italian convert to Mormonism, has suggested that the biblical text is more than sixty-five percent incomplete, due, in part, to the “lost books
Massimo Franceschini, an Italian convert to Mormonism, has suggested that the biblical text is more than sixty-five percent incomplete, due, in part, to the “lost books
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I believe in God. But its clear that the Bible especially the KJV was written by men with motives. Too many contradictions, too much evidence supporting the corruption of the book.
Massimo Franceschini, an Italian convert to Mormonism, has suggested that the biblical text is more than sixty-five percent incomplete, due, in part, to the “lost books
Massimo Franceschini, an Italian convert to Mormonism, has suggested that the biblical text is more than sixty-five percent incomplete, due, in part, to the “lost books
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cartune you reminded me about the part in "gangs of new york" where one cat said the Bible was written by Shakespeare
clearly trying to tell us something
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clearly trying to tell us something
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cartune you reminded me about the part in "gangs of new york" where one cat said the Bible was written by Shakespeare
clearly trying to tell us something
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clearly trying to tell us something
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you're quoting stuff from the old testament though...
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you're quoting stuff from the old testament though...
