You keep saying the same thing in all your posts, especially "read the thread". I did stay with the thread since page 1. Again I'm not taking sides, but I haven't seen or heard anything other than someone supporting another person's statement that these came from identical factories as all Nike shoes, that's called hearsay. Maybe they did come from Nike fact. or maybe they didnt. There's no way to monitor where your shoe was made when it's being shipped from China. There's tens of thousands of factories out there all capable of reproducing anything for the right price. I see that GM J's are obviously well liked and seem to look as close to authentic as possible and that's cool in my book if that's what people like. I was just wondering if anyone had any substantial proof that these come from the exact same assembly line as retail pairs. I guess my next question would be if some news report says there are rougue nike factories, and it's the same China man who made the Champs pair, why are his GM's coming out less than perfect, when hes capable of doing quality work. Wouldn't it make sense for them to repeat their previous work done on RP. Then they can really charge serious retail prices since nobody would be able to tell the difference between the unauthorized and authorized pairs.