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This planet is definitely a stepping stone for us in our greater journeys.
God = The universe?
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would you really go to work tomorrow if aliens revealed themselves worldwide?
or would you be at the house all day
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And this is where the human ego comes to play. The material that we're comprised of has been around for eternity and will be around for eternity after we "die". "You" aren't really "you". "You" are just a series of random eternal materials (energies) combined for a relatively short period of time. Our state of being, our consciousness, our state of matter comes to an end but "you", the material and energies you're made of has been and always will be here
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God is an idea assigned to the emotions of life, the universe is existence itself; there is no universe without life to acknowledge it, no life without a universe to hold it.
Thus God is an idea of existence that is as real as the universe itself.
Thus God is an idea of existence that is as real as the universe itself.
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I believe in god, I believe in evolution. I also believe in aliens. I just wish they would show their face to my overly religious parent-in-law because they do not believe in life outside of Earth.
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Im feelin this theory
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Phi- the golden ratio 
Fibonacci
Vesica Piscis
Fibonacci
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we don't know for certain though.
could be real life. could be what they may or may not have seen while tripping balls on the finest of fungus and burning bush.
could be a paranoid schizophrenic cult leaders story. *shrug*
all we know for certain is we outchea.
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Think aliens created us,srs.
Probly created the concept of god to keep us united in a way.
Probly created the concept of god to keep us united in a way.
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well then they failed. this thread is awesome btw.
I like the idea of us all vein ever lasting balls of energy. Makes sense that when you really vibe with somebody it's like two auras meshing together.
You feel them and they feel you.
I needa spark one and pose this question to some of my friends here at art school, **** would be dope.
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A new study by UA doctoral student Jay Sanguinetti indicates that our brains perceive objects in everyday life of which we may never be aware. The finding challenges currently accepted models about how the brain processes visual information.
View media item 654476A look inside the mind: Davi Vitela dons a cap used to take EEG scans of her brain activity while she views a series of images. Jay Sanguinetti's study indicates that our minds perceive objects in everyday life of which we are never consciously aware. (Photo by Patrick McArdle/UANews)
University of Arizona doctoral degree candidate Jay Sanguinetti has authored a new study, published online in the journal Psychological Science, that indicates that the brain processes and understands visusal input that we may never consciously perceive.
The finding challenges currently accepted models about how the brain processes visual information.
A doctoral candidate in the UA's Department of Psychology in the College of Science, Sanguinetti showed study participants a series of black silhouettes, some of which contained meaningful, real-world objects hidden in the white spaces on the outsides.
Saguinetti worked with his adviser Mary Peterson, a professor of psychology and director of the UA's Cognitive Science Program, and with John Allen, a UA Distinguished Professor of psychology, cognitive science and neuroscience, to monitor subjects' brainwaves with an electroencephalogram, or EEG, while they viewed the objects.
"We were asking the question of whether the brain was processing the meaning of the objects that are on the outside of these silhouettes," Sanguinetti said. "The specific question was, 'Does the brain process those hidden shapes to the level of meaning, even when the subject doesn't consciously see them?"
The answer, Sanguinetti's data indicates, is yes.
Study participants' brainwaves indicated that even if a person never consciously recognized the shapes on the outside of the image, their brains still processed those shapes to the level of understanding their meaning.
"There's a brain signature for meaningful processing," Sanguinetti said. A peak in the averaged brainwaves called N400 indicates that the brain has recognized an object and associated it with a particular meaning.
"It happens about 400 milliseconds after the image is less than a half a second," said Peterson. "As one looks at brainwaves, they're undulating above a baseline axis and below that axis. The negative ones below the axis are called N and positive ones above the axis are called P, so N400 means it's a negative waveform that happens approximately 400 milliseconds after the image is shown."
The presence of the N400 peak indicates that subjects' brains recognize the meaning of the shapes on the outside of the figure.
"The participants in our experiments don't see those shapes on the outside; nonetheless, the brain signature tells us that they have processed the meaning of those shapes," said Peterson. "But the brain rejects them as interpretations, and if it rejects the shapes from conscious perception, then you won't have any awareness of them."
"We also have novel silhouettes as experimental controls," Sanguinetti said. "These are novel black shapes in the middle and nothing meaningful on the outside."
The N400 waveform does not appear on the EEG of subjects when they are seeing truly novel silhouettes, without images of any real-world objects, indicating that the brain does not recognize a meaningful object in the image.
"This is huge," Peterson said. "We have neural evidence that the brain is processing the shape and its meaning of the hidden images in the silhouettes we showed to participants in our study."
The finding leads to the question of why the brain would process the meaning of a shape when a person is ultimately not going to perceive it, Sanguinetti said.
"The traditional opinion in vision research is that this would be wasteful in terms of resources," he explained. "If you're not going to ultimately see the object on the outside why would the brain waste all these processing resources and process that image up to the level of meaning?"
"Many, many theorists assume that because it takes a lot of energy for brain processing, that the brain is only going to spend time processing what you're ultimately going to perceive," added Peterson. "But in fact the brain is deciding what you're going to perceive, and it's processing all of the information and then it's determining what's the best interpretation."
View media item 654477Sanguinetti showed study participants images of what appeared to be an abstract black object. Sometimes, however, there were real-world objects hidden at the borders of the black silhouette. In this image, the outlines of two seahorses can be seen in the white spaces surrounding the black object. (Image courtesy of Jay Sanguinetti)
"This is a window into what the brain is doing all the time," Peterson said. "It's always sifting through a variety of possibilities and finding the best interpretation for what's out there. And the best interpretation may vary with the situation."
Our brains may have evolved to sift through the barrage of visual input in our eyes and identify those things that are most important for us to consciously perceive, such as a threat or resources such as food, Peterson suggested.
In the future, Peterson and Sanguinetti plan to look for the specific regions in the brain where the processing of meaning occurs.
"We're trying to look at exactly what brain regions are involved," said Peterson. "The EEG tells us this processing is happening and it tells us when it's happening, but it doesn't tell us where it's occurring in the brain."
"We want to look inside the brain to understand where and how this meaning is processed," said Peterson.
Images were shown to Sanguinetti's study participants for only 170 milliseconds, yet their brains were able to complete the complex processes necessary to interpret the meaning of the hidden objects.
"There are a lot of processes that happen in the brain to help us interpret all the complexity that hits our eyeballs," Sanguinetti said. "The brain is able to process and interpret this information very quickly."
Sanguinetti's study indicates that in our everyday life, as we walk down the street, for example, our brains may recognize many meaningful objects in the visual scene, but ultimately we are aware of only a handful of those objects.
The brain is working to provide us with the best, most useful possible interpretation of the visual world, Sanguinetti said, an interpretation that does not necessarily include all the information in the visual input.
Sanguinetti's study was funded by a grant to Mary Peterson from the National Science Foundation.
http://uanews.org/story/ua-study-your-brain-sees-things-you-don-t
View media item 654476A look inside the mind: Davi Vitela dons a cap used to take EEG scans of her brain activity while she views a series of images. Jay Sanguinetti's study indicates that our minds perceive objects in everyday life of which we are never consciously aware. (Photo by Patrick McArdle/UANews)
University of Arizona doctoral degree candidate Jay Sanguinetti has authored a new study, published online in the journal Psychological Science, that indicates that the brain processes and understands visusal input that we may never consciously perceive.
The finding challenges currently accepted models about how the brain processes visual information.
A doctoral candidate in the UA's Department of Psychology in the College of Science, Sanguinetti showed study participants a series of black silhouettes, some of which contained meaningful, real-world objects hidden in the white spaces on the outsides.
Saguinetti worked with his adviser Mary Peterson, a professor of psychology and director of the UA's Cognitive Science Program, and with John Allen, a UA Distinguished Professor of psychology, cognitive science and neuroscience, to monitor subjects' brainwaves with an electroencephalogram, or EEG, while they viewed the objects.
"We were asking the question of whether the brain was processing the meaning of the objects that are on the outside of these silhouettes," Sanguinetti said. "The specific question was, 'Does the brain process those hidden shapes to the level of meaning, even when the subject doesn't consciously see them?"
The answer, Sanguinetti's data indicates, is yes.
Study participants' brainwaves indicated that even if a person never consciously recognized the shapes on the outside of the image, their brains still processed those shapes to the level of understanding their meaning.
"There's a brain signature for meaningful processing," Sanguinetti said. A peak in the averaged brainwaves called N400 indicates that the brain has recognized an object and associated it with a particular meaning.
"It happens about 400 milliseconds after the image is less than a half a second," said Peterson. "As one looks at brainwaves, they're undulating above a baseline axis and below that axis. The negative ones below the axis are called N and positive ones above the axis are called P, so N400 means it's a negative waveform that happens approximately 400 milliseconds after the image is shown."
The presence of the N400 peak indicates that subjects' brains recognize the meaning of the shapes on the outside of the figure.
"The participants in our experiments don't see those shapes on the outside; nonetheless, the brain signature tells us that they have processed the meaning of those shapes," said Peterson. "But the brain rejects them as interpretations, and if it rejects the shapes from conscious perception, then you won't have any awareness of them."
"We also have novel silhouettes as experimental controls," Sanguinetti said. "These are novel black shapes in the middle and nothing meaningful on the outside."
The N400 waveform does not appear on the EEG of subjects when they are seeing truly novel silhouettes, without images of any real-world objects, indicating that the brain does not recognize a meaningful object in the image.
"This is huge," Peterson said. "We have neural evidence that the brain is processing the shape and its meaning of the hidden images in the silhouettes we showed to participants in our study."
The finding leads to the question of why the brain would process the meaning of a shape when a person is ultimately not going to perceive it, Sanguinetti said.
"The traditional opinion in vision research is that this would be wasteful in terms of resources," he explained. "If you're not going to ultimately see the object on the outside why would the brain waste all these processing resources and process that image up to the level of meaning?"
"Many, many theorists assume that because it takes a lot of energy for brain processing, that the brain is only going to spend time processing what you're ultimately going to perceive," added Peterson. "But in fact the brain is deciding what you're going to perceive, and it's processing all of the information and then it's determining what's the best interpretation."
View media item 654477Sanguinetti showed study participants images of what appeared to be an abstract black object. Sometimes, however, there were real-world objects hidden at the borders of the black silhouette. In this image, the outlines of two seahorses can be seen in the white spaces surrounding the black object. (Image courtesy of Jay Sanguinetti)
"This is a window into what the brain is doing all the time," Peterson said. "It's always sifting through a variety of possibilities and finding the best interpretation for what's out there. And the best interpretation may vary with the situation."
Our brains may have evolved to sift through the barrage of visual input in our eyes and identify those things that are most important for us to consciously perceive, such as a threat or resources such as food, Peterson suggested.
In the future, Peterson and Sanguinetti plan to look for the specific regions in the brain where the processing of meaning occurs.
"We're trying to look at exactly what brain regions are involved," said Peterson. "The EEG tells us this processing is happening and it tells us when it's happening, but it doesn't tell us where it's occurring in the brain."
"We want to look inside the brain to understand where and how this meaning is processed," said Peterson.
Images were shown to Sanguinetti's study participants for only 170 milliseconds, yet their brains were able to complete the complex processes necessary to interpret the meaning of the hidden objects.
"There are a lot of processes that happen in the brain to help us interpret all the complexity that hits our eyeballs," Sanguinetti said. "The brain is able to process and interpret this information very quickly."
Sanguinetti's study indicates that in our everyday life, as we walk down the street, for example, our brains may recognize many meaningful objects in the visual scene, but ultimately we are aware of only a handful of those objects.
The brain is working to provide us with the best, most useful possible interpretation of the visual world, Sanguinetti said, an interpretation that does not necessarily include all the information in the visual input.
Sanguinetti's study was funded by a grant to Mary Peterson from the National Science Foundation.
http://uanews.org/story/ua-study-your-brain-sees-things-you-don-t
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I think this is what they mean with the whole let there be light thing
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Depends on your definitions of GOD and the universe. I'd answer with I don't know but depending on how you define GOD it could be an easy no.
I don't believe there is one so no they don't but for ppl who do believe in GOD I don't see why they can't coexist.
Mankind doesn't know much about the observable universe as it is let alone the entire (if you can say that depending on if it's infinite or not) universe.
http://htwins.net/scale2/
Most general definitions of the man made religious GOD have no evidence worth believing in the claim so it that version isn't the universe nor did it create it.
It is possible that some higher power exists that you could call GOD but there's no evidence of it. There's also the chance the universe and what one would call GOD are one in the same and that'd kind of fall in line with the whole the entirety of the universe always existing as some point particle and that something can not come from nothing.
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Man, i'm loving this. I gave out so many reps, I ran out
I mean, I really clapped at some of the responses and was talking to the screen in agreement...Iron sharpens iron, so keep this going
I believe in God but human comprehension is so limited (my belief) that he/she/it/them could be anything and we might never know. I think God could compose of a bunch of dynamics that work together which creates rules and laws that govern everything within all the time/space configurations of the multiverse. God can also be One entity or a bunch that move like a unit (Living Tribunal type of being or The Legion type of deal). There's always a fail safe, it might not be pleasant for us to experience but order/homeostasis is always at work. Is that by chance or by design? I don't know. That spirit science section with the Eye of Horus reminds me of the Cavemen of Europe and the primitive alert/sense mechanisms we have. We subconsciously block what we don't need and are alerted/see what the mind wants us to know. Look at us today, before this we were always scared because of no awareness of the environment. What could we do in that state? Nothing. It was the first catalyst just like awareness sensing his want to "feel". We made way, stopped and charted progress (creating a flower of life like design). Then kept continuing like that till wala, we reach our present moment. Let there be light is constant search of awareness, data building, and implementation (knowledge, wisdom, understanding...ignorance/lack of knowledge = darkness)
Oh yeah, I secretly believe we are "Jesus" but we don't know due to historical rewrites and cover ups, and I also believe we are like the guy from MIB3 that can jump from dimension to dimension (multiverse) but we don't know that we are consciously doing it. The more you exercise your imagination I think the more you free your mind from the physical reality shackles, then the iller you are you can bring that thought to the "real" world. Einstein said it best with that "imagination is more important than knowledge" quote (maybe the secret reason why they beat the left handed-ness out of you or demonized the left handers in ancient times). Facts are rooted, imagination forces boundaries which create new "facts". They both have their purpose
I'm comfortable with the fact that I know "nothing" but at the same time you gain knowledge from experience so you do know "something" lol. It might not be "right" (to me at least) and you just might mix that up for something else and misunderstand, but it is the process and it works fully. its all perception, relativity, experience, interpretation that makes the experience. Is the glass half full or half empty (and once you learn some basic science, is it full at all with all water or is it even empty with no water?). Find your own truths
I believe aliens exist too and think they stay away so that they don't cause a societal breakdown. A visit here and there, but nothing tooo influential to disrupt your "free will". Imagine if they really told you what time it is? Nothing would be important imo. Not the dream your country sells to you, not the next hot jordans, nada. Just love, family, friends, and survival and that is counter-productive to the ideals of the powers that be and their agendas but it is a system that maintains order of sorts
I always rant when these topics come up cause I genuinely love em, makes me feel like we're students of Socrates, or better yet, studying at the Kushs of Africa with my fellow eager learners (I know I probably wont be back in here so I ranted a essay
). Theres really no "right" and "wrong"
gotta meditate with the
now. peace and love brothers (and sisters if you're amongst us)
I mean, I really clapped at some of the responses and was talking to the screen in agreement...Iron sharpens iron, so keep this going
I believe in God but human comprehension is so limited (my belief) that he/she/it/them could be anything and we might never know. I think God could compose of a bunch of dynamics that work together which creates rules and laws that govern everything within all the time/space configurations of the multiverse. God can also be One entity or a bunch that move like a unit (Living Tribunal type of being or The Legion type of deal). There's always a fail safe, it might not be pleasant for us to experience but order/homeostasis is always at work. Is that by chance or by design? I don't know. That spirit science section with the Eye of Horus reminds me of the Cavemen of Europe and the primitive alert/sense mechanisms we have. We subconsciously block what we don't need and are alerted/see what the mind wants us to know. Look at us today, before this we were always scared because of no awareness of the environment. What could we do in that state? Nothing. It was the first catalyst just like awareness sensing his want to "feel". We made way, stopped and charted progress (creating a flower of life like design). Then kept continuing like that till wala, we reach our present moment. Let there be light is constant search of awareness, data building, and implementation (knowledge, wisdom, understanding...ignorance/lack of knowledge = darkness)
Oh yeah, I secretly believe we are "Jesus" but we don't know due to historical rewrites and cover ups, and I also believe we are like the guy from MIB3 that can jump from dimension to dimension (multiverse) but we don't know that we are consciously doing it. The more you exercise your imagination I think the more you free your mind from the physical reality shackles, then the iller you are you can bring that thought to the "real" world. Einstein said it best with that "imagination is more important than knowledge" quote (maybe the secret reason why they beat the left handed-ness out of you or demonized the left handers in ancient times). Facts are rooted, imagination forces boundaries which create new "facts". They both have their purpose
I'm comfortable with the fact that I know "nothing" but at the same time you gain knowledge from experience so you do know "something" lol. It might not be "right" (to me at least) and you just might mix that up for something else and misunderstand, but it is the process and it works fully. its all perception, relativity, experience, interpretation that makes the experience. Is the glass half full or half empty (and once you learn some basic science, is it full at all with all water or is it even empty with no water?). Find your own truths
I believe aliens exist too and think they stay away so that they don't cause a societal breakdown. A visit here and there, but nothing tooo influential to disrupt your "free will". Imagine if they really told you what time it is? Nothing would be important imo. Not the dream your country sells to you, not the next hot jordans, nada. Just love, family, friends, and survival and that is counter-productive to the ideals of the powers that be and their agendas but it is a system that maintains order of sorts
I always rant when these topics come up cause I genuinely love em, makes me feel like we're students of Socrates, or better yet, studying at the Kushs of Africa with my fellow eager learners (I know I probably wont be back in here so I ranted a essay
gotta meditate with the
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“Energy cannot be created or destroyed, it can only be changed from one form to another.”
― Albert Einstein
So when we die, (cease to exist on this plain of reality) what happens to our energy ( for those who subscribe or entertain this concept)? Does this validate Heaven ( which mean with God/ Creater) and hell (away from God)? Is our energy restored to whence it came? Are the predominately negative energies sent into black holes/ universal toilets? ............... For those of us that believe in Jesus, could he be explained as a high concentration of the creators energy ?
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If energy cannot be created or destroyed, does it then mean that we have been here all along? 
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If energy cannot be created or destroyed, does it then mean that we have been here all along?
Id say yes. Parts of us that made us. Not us as in your "soul". But all the elements that made you.
Like ndt said (no neckbeard), when the big bang happened, all that stars and **** that blew up and came here or form the earth and ****, those elements are a part of us.
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If energy cannot be created or destroyed, does it then mean that we have been here all along?
Id say yes. Parts of us that made us. Not us as in your "soul". But all the elements that made you.
Like ndt said (no neckbeard), when the big bang happened, all that stars and **** that blew up and came here or form the earth and ****, those elements are a part of us.
My dude Sagan said we are made of star stuff
can't energy be created under certain circumstances and situations though?
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