Yeah, I can understand that. We were arguing back and forth about the legitimacy of the shoe, so I told him that maybe the other pairs he sold were real, and he said *****. He also stated that he would just sell them on goat, which I dont know why he didnt in the first place, and make more money. What I told him, was that I found it funny that all these DS Playoff 13s do not have a box, or plastic around the holograms, and he just dismissed it. He either doesnt know that he has fakes, or is playing dumb to save face. But it seems that he is selling these pairs on GOAT, and without boxes. And like I said, if you dont compare these to another store bought pair, it is very hard to tell that they are not real.