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i like the idea of a tablet...since i dont have a notebook....
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agreed. the mainstream will accept it regardless of its faults.Originally Posted by presequel
slate is the better product tech wise.
ipad is the better product for the mainstream.
marketing. brand management. product awareness.
apple has already won. the ipad at its price and its features, is being looked at as the standard.
how did apple win when their product is not even out yet? and im the furthest thing from an "Apple Hater". we are not talking about whats moving off of shelves, because ipods move faster than any other pmp, that doesnt make them the best. I dont "down" Apple products, thats not what this is about. Its a criticicm of a widely hyped device that in most peoples opinions, fall short of what we want in an EXTRA device. The Ipad's only strengths IMO are the Apple brand and the extensive app store. the tech and actual capacity to perform functions, that you would expect from a device like this, are very limited.(i do think there will be some amazing apps developed for it, depending on how it takes off in the market) The slate , along with a TON of android tablets, do everything if not more than the Ipad. IMO theres nothing special about the Ipad other than Apples name being on it.Originally Posted by hella handsome
apple already won though. everytime something apple is brought up, the apple haters jump out the bushes trying to preach about how apple products are nothing special compared to their competition.Originally Posted by QuestLife
what html5 uses are going to make the IPAD special?? any tablet device can do html5 in the browser, meaning all of these web apps built in html5 will work on them as well. Apple is not winning anything by not implementing flash.Originally Posted by hella handsome
this is true. but when html 5 spreads its going to be hard times for adobe and flash. (well not really, because there are other uses for flash besides the web)Originally Posted by CWrite78
awesome? sure. widely adopted? not for a good while. i'll take a tablet with a full OS over an oversized iPod and it's apps any day.
but give the ipad 1-2 years, and let html5 grow. the ipad will be a strong product one apple stops +%%**+% around and add in all of the features they know it should have had.
have you not payed attention to the past decade in technology? just because any tablet can do html 5, doesn't mean those tablets are going to be moving off the shelves like an ipad will be.
i really dont want to get into this discussion again. some of you just need to give up trying to down apple products and just realize, these !%%#$@ are going to MOVE PRODUCT no matter what at this point.
Originally Posted by rowenarrow
Wow really wanted this to take about the slate and us finally getting to see i in action other than a diss on Apple. Hella hit the hammer on the head, Apple will win this bout. If you pay attention to to what they have done over the passed few years THEY WIN!!!!
I honestly don't feel that I have contridicted myself in anything I said. to me from what I have seen the Slate seems to bring the internet to us the same way a laptop will (w/ a touch screen). For those going emo on my statements I am not downing the slate by no means, but I am stronger hopes for the Courier than I do the Slate. The concept of the Courier brings the web to us in a new way and I am look for more innovation in a device that can take on the iPad's hype. For anyone who would like to argue that the iPod Touch/iPhone/iPad doesn't use a different way for it user to use the web, that is another fight, but one I am sure I will win. (start a new thread and we can talk that there)
Lets talk interface...
My biggest complaint about the Slate is Windows 7. So far it only looks modified and I hate that Microsoft did not create a new OS like (Apple and Google). The Slate with Android would have been way better IMO. Windows 7, Chrome, Mac OS X... all use a mouse as its primary input device as to where Android and OS X use touch as its primary input device. That is my logic behind it anyways and it is just my opinion. So please don't get all fussy about it or try to down it unless you can present cold hard facts that can help educate me.
So now lets get back to a key point of this thread the Flash integration. I no doubt will miss the flash integration. Not being able to play Facebook Texas Hold'em often sucks but then again I am used to it and the plus to the device out ways (IMO) the minus of flash. One of my main concerns concerns with a device that runs (from what I can see) a full Windows 7 OS and full on flash is the battery life. I believe even a netbook runs a more scaled back version of the OS so that is were my issue is.
Though I am a investor in Apple and trust their products (therefore by most standards a fanboy) I believe. that Android is the Mobile OS that can take them on and that the slate would be better off running that than Windows 7. If Microsoft was smart and wanted a tablet that bad they would at least wait and see how their 7 series phone OS will work and then try to expand on that, I think it is foolish to try to put the laptop/desktop 7 on a tablet.
This is why I am not impressed.
Thank you for your time
Originally Posted by QuestLife
how did apple win when their product is not even out yet? and im the furthest thing from an "Apple Hater". we are not talking about whats moving off of shelves, because ipods move faster than any other pmp, that doesnt make them the best. I dont "down" Apple products, thats not what this is about. Its a criticicm of a widely hyped device that in most peoples opinions, fall short of what we want in an EXTRA device. The Ipad's only strengths IMO are the Apple brand and the extensive app store. the tech and actual capacity to perform functions, that you would expect from a device like this, are very limited.(i do think there will be some amazing apps developed for it, depending on how it takes off in the market) The slate , along with a TON of android tablets, do everything if not more than the Ipad. IMO theres nothing special about the Ipad other than Apples name being on it.Originally Posted by hella handsome
apple already won though. everytime something apple is brought up, the apple haters jump out the bushes trying to preach about how apple products are nothing special compared to their competition.Originally Posted by QuestLife
what html5 uses are going to make the IPAD special?? any tablet device can do html5 in the browser, meaning all of these web apps built in html5 will work on them as well. Apple is not winning anything by not implementing flash.Originally Posted by hella handsome
this is true. but when html 5 spreads its going to be hard times for adobe and flash. (well not really, because there are other uses for flash besides the web)Originally Posted by CWrite78
awesome? sure. widely adopted? not for a good while. i'll take a tablet with a full OS over an oversized iPod and it's apps any day.
but give the ipad 1-2 years, and let html5 grow. the ipad will be a strong product one apple stops +%%**+% around and add in all of the features they know it should have had.
have you not payed attention to the past decade in technology? just because any tablet can do html 5, doesn't mean those tablets are going to be moving off the shelves like an ipad will be.
i really dont want to get into this discussion again. some of you just need to give up trying to down apple products and just realize, these !%%#$@ are going to MOVE PRODUCT no matter what at this point.
Originally Posted by hella handsome
Originally Posted by QuestLife
how did apple win when their product is not even out yet? and im the furthest thing from an "Apple Hater". we are not talking about whats moving off of shelves, because ipods move faster than any other pmp, that doesnt make them the best. I dont "down" Apple products, thats not what this is about. Its a criticicm of a widely hyped device that in most peoples opinions, fall short of what we want in an EXTRA device. The Ipad's only strengths IMO are the Apple brand and the extensive app store. the tech and actual capacity to perform functions, that you would expect from a device like this, are very limited.(i do think there will be some amazing apps developed for it, depending on how it takes off in the market) The slate , along with a TON of android tablets, do everything if not more than the Ipad. IMO theres nothing special about the Ipad other than Apples name being on it.Originally Posted by hella handsome
apple already won though. everytime something apple is brought up, the apple haters jump out the bushes trying to preach about how apple products are nothing special compared to their competition.Originally Posted by QuestLife
what html5 uses are going to make the IPAD special?? any tablet device can do html5 in the browser, meaning all of these web apps built in html5 will work on them as well. Apple is not winning anything by not implementing flash.Originally Posted by hella handsome
this is true. but when html 5 spreads its going to be hard times for adobe and flash. (well not really, because there are other uses for flash besides the web)Originally Posted by CWrite78
awesome? sure. widely adopted? not for a good while. i'll take a tablet with a full OS over an oversized iPod and it's apps any day.
but give the ipad 1-2 years, and let html5 grow. the ipad will be a strong product one apple stops +%%**+% around and add in all of the features they know it should have had.
have you not payed attention to the past decade in technology? just because any tablet can do html 5, doesn't mean those tablets are going to be moving off the shelves like an ipad will be.
i really dont want to get into this discussion again. some of you just need to give up trying to down apple products and just realize, these !%%#$@ are going to MOVE PRODUCT no matter what at this point.
if you read through what i said about the ipad and the slate, you would clearly see, i stated how apple products are not "better" in terms of performance, but better in terms of user ease of use.
why do you think more people buy automatic transmission cars rather than manual transmission? ease of use. thats what sells. you can sit here and point out the stats on the paper that be both obviously know, and fail to see how apple has already won with their branding and recognition with ease of use in their products that people like them for.
i feel like im on a team, and im arguing with my own team mates, because ive already said i like the slate more
apple won the first round of the tablet wars the day it was announced. the tech heads wont buy it, but guess who the majority is? the general public. thats where the battle is won.
few points:Originally Posted by rowenarrow
Since the iPad vs the universe war is being talked about. I think Apple took a page from the rest of the industry book. If you noticed that no one released any info on what they were doing until Apple made its move. It could just be good business to offer a basic model first see what the rest will try to do to top them and then crush them with the next gen version.
I live how some people refer to people who buy Apple products as sheep. It couldn't be that they were tired of PC crashes or viruses, they have to be sheep. Come on people.
Also to those who don't want to call the iPhone what it is.... (the poster boy for the change in the way we use cellphones) the you are fooling yourself. Just like the iPod, the iPhone has changed the game, every phone that comes out that claims it can be better i call an "iPhone Killer". I mean lets be real and give props where it is due. Apple has been owning the tech game for a minute. It is what it is.
Originally Posted by rowenarrow
CWrite78, homey it will be okay my lord you seem to take this to heart. It will be okay homey.