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Control issues for a pitcher is always something to be concerned about.Originally Posted by dland24
Originally Posted by Paul Is On Tilt
I knew his 1.33 WHIP in his 1st two season were going to get mentioned.Originally Posted by dland24
First of all, Dice K had a 1.33 WHIP his first two seasons. His career WHIP is 1.40 because of last season. Take that away, and his 1.33 isnt viewed as great, but its not horrible. Secondly, in his second full year in the Major Leagues, his 2.90 ERA was good enough to give him an 18-3 record. An injury pretty much cost him his entire third season, but who is to say he doesnt duplicate or even exceed his second year stats? If healthy, Daisuke CAN be one of the best pitchers in baseball. The same cant and never will be said about Tim Hudson.Originally Posted by Paul Is On Tilt
It's hard if you have a high WHIP to be effective. That means you have a runner on base every inning, which means you're in the stretch every inning. It takes a toll. And with having runners on base every inning, it makes it a higher likelihood that they will score, affecting ERA. I've never been a fan of someone with a high WHIP. You can compensate a low K total by having more pitchers to get you more K's weekly.Originally Posted by dland24
Originally Posted by Paul Is On Tilt
I agree. I've never been a fan of Dice-K's career WHIP of 1.40.Originally Posted by Proshares
I'd put Hudson over Dice K.
Dice K's ceiling is MUCH higher than Hudsons though. Hudson will have 85 strikeouts at the end of the season, and Dice K could have 185. Yes his WHIP is high, but if he pitches like he can, he will be very good in 3 categories. Both are huge injury risks.
If I have the choice between the two, I 100% go Dice K over Hudson. I'll take the guy who can dominate the league at times over the guy who relies on his defense get outs.
You're making it sound like Hudson's '08 season where he had 85 K's a bad thing. He had a 3.17 ERA and a 1.16 WHIP. Those are very good numbers.
Hudson has been more consistent over the years. Dice-K had one good year up to this point. I'll take Hudson.
So basically, if he has a sub 3 ERA, I could give a flying @*$+ that WHIP is around 1.33......which isnt even horrible.
Look at his BB totals. In his 1st year he pitched 204.2 innings. Ok, that's cool. Scroll over to the BB column, and you see that he has 80 BB's. Ok, I guess.
Look at his next year. He pitched only 167.2 innings and his BB's even surpassed his previous season's mark with 94. More walks in less innings pitched?
That doesn't concern you? Because that concerns me.
His walk total went up yes, but his ERA went way way down. So how much does it really matter if he is walking the park if they arent crossing the plate? I say not at all.
And like I said before, he's put into the stretch and the likelihood of a runner crossing the plate is increased. Over the course of a season, it's going to catch up to him. If it never catches up with him, then fine. But as it stands right now, I'm still putting Hudson over Matsuzaka.