Euthanasia: Your Thoughts?

[boys noize]

Originally Posted by JohnnyRedStorm

Originally Posted by Boys Noize

Originally Posted by JohnnyRedStorm

I'm for it for people that are in conscious and rational states, but in between on people in vegetative states, mostly because of the ulterior motives the family members could have.

That brings up another interesting topic. Is it humane to keep a person in a vegetative state alive? I would argue that it is kind of sick to keep a person hooked up to machines keeping them "alive" when they're for all intents and purposes gone from this world. I'm not talking about people in coma's or people still registering brain activity and with a glimmer of hope for recovery. The Terri Schiavo case comes to mind. I was just a kid when that was unfolding but even then I thought that couldn't possibly be life...

If it was up to me, or I was in a vegetative state, I'd want the plug to be pulled. It's not fair to the family members to keep somebody like that hooked up to a bunch of machines for twenty years and having to suffer alongside with them. I'd want all the tubes removed from me so I'd be able to die, and my family would be able to carry on with their lives, instead of holding on to that little piece of false hope.

That's how I feel. I'm kind or surprised, and glad, that the overwhelming sentiment of those who took the time to respond share a similar view.

 

[boys noize]

Originally Posted by Master Zik

Originally Posted by Manglor

Originally Posted by Master Zik

Never deeply got in to this topic as others but I know the basics.

Not for it. Giving people the tools or helping them kills themselves doesn't sit well with me, whether they're in a massive amount of pain or not. I say ride it out. I'm opposed against any kind of suicide but if the pain is that much for them they should find a way on their own to do it if they believe they should be able to choose how to die (as long as you aren't being helped along the way).

What if it was your mom who was in massive pain and didn't have the strength to even sit up in bed let alone find a way to kill herself. It's easy to say it's wrong when it isn't someone you love that is begging to die.

If it was my mother I wouldn't kill her, I wouldn't "help" her die, and I wouldn't condone ANYONE assisting her suicide. I'd get her the best care with the best of my abilities until she passed away.

Originally Posted by LamarOwnsem

Chin-moved? Are you serious? First of all, how does a person "chin-move" out of bed? If there is a door in between them and a flight of stairs, do they chin-open the door?

My grandfather suffered from quadriplegia so I've seen first-hand how mentally and emotionally painful it can be. His will to live was strong, but I can see why a person wouldn't want to live like that. Why does it matter if a person receives tools? The result is the same.

And what does a comletely paralyzed person who can't speak do? Do they just "ride it out" like you say?

You gotta get creative. There has to be some format they get out of bed everyday with or without help. Some contraption that allows them to do something other than lay in bed all day. If not they would've already starved to death in bed or wherever they fell asleep.

A completely paralyzed person who can't speak is screwed if they want to die. I mean you CAN NOT condone someone helping that person die since you have no way of truly knowing they want to die.

first of all, you say you'd get her "the best care" but what does that mean? so she's heavily sedated, can't move, and in a constant state of mental anguish because life as most know it is over for her; this is assuming she's lucid enough to recognize any of this. sure she's alive but i'd argue that what she'd go through is worse than just letting her go. if it is her wish to die with dignity and you decide to string her along knowing damn well recovery is impossible, i'd say that's pretty inhumane.

I think you fail to understand that hospitals have machines that can keep a person alive even if that person doesn't want to live. There are machines that will feed nutrients into your body so starving oneself is not an option (at least not right now with our current euthanasia laws.) Besides, it shouldn't have to get to that point. If a patient wants to die, why should they have to starve themselves, consume cyanide, or any of these other creative methods of suicide? It shouldn't be this way.

 

[boys noize]

Originally Posted by Master Zik

Originally Posted by Manglor

Originally Posted by Master Zik

Never deeply got in to this topic as others but I know the basics.

Not for it. Giving people the tools or helping them kills themselves doesn't sit well with me, whether they're in a massive amount of pain or not. I say ride it out. I'm opposed against any kind of suicide but if the pain is that much for them they should find a way on their own to do it if they believe they should be able to choose how to die (as long as you aren't being helped along the way).

What if it was your mom who was in massive pain and didn't have the strength to even sit up in bed let alone find a way to kill herself. It's easy to say it's wrong when it isn't someone you love that is begging to die.

If it was my mother I wouldn't kill her, I wouldn't "help" her die, and I wouldn't condone ANYONE assisting her suicide. I'd get her the best care with the best of my abilities until she passed away.

Originally Posted by LamarOwnsem

Chin-moved? Are you serious? First of all, how does a person "chin-move" out of bed? If there is a door in between them and a flight of stairs, do they chin-open the door?

My grandfather suffered from quadriplegia so I've seen first-hand how mentally and emotionally painful it can be. His will to live was strong, but I can see why a person wouldn't want to live like that. Why does it matter if a person receives tools? The result is the same.

And what does a comletely paralyzed person who can't speak do? Do they just "ride it out" like you say?

You gotta get creative. There has to be some format they get out of bed everyday with or without help. Some contraption that allows them to do something other than lay in bed all day. If not they would've already starved to death in bed or wherever they fell asleep.

A completely paralyzed person who can't speak is screwed if they want to die. I mean you CAN NOT condone someone helping that person die since you have no way of truly knowing they want to die.

first of all, you say you'd get her "the best care" but what does that mean? so she's heavily sedated, can't move, and in a constant state of mental anguish because life as most know it is over for her; this is assuming she's lucid enough to recognize any of this. sure she's alive but i'd argue that what she'd go through is worse than just letting her go. if it is her wish to die with dignity and you decide to string her along knowing damn well recovery is impossible, i'd say that's pretty inhumane.

I think you fail to understand that hospitals have machines that can keep a person alive even if that person doesn't want to live. There are machines that will feed nutrients into your body so starving oneself is not an option (at least not right now with our current euthanasia laws.) Besides, it shouldn't have to get to that point. If a patient wants to die, why should they have to starve themselves, consume cyanide, or any of these other creative methods of suicide? It shouldn't be this way.

 

[blacksheep08]

Originally Posted by mytmouse76

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey


I'm for it, but it needs to regulated and monitored vigorously.

 

[blacksheep08]

Originally Posted by mytmouse76

Originally Posted by AntonLaVey


I'm for it, but it needs to regulated and monitored vigorously.