Eminem best rapper ever

Eminem is definitely nice but the "best rapper alive" phrase is very subjective. People react to different people for many different reasons. Sothere will never be a clear cut best rapper alive. But for me he's in my top 5.
 
Originally Posted by red mpls

Originally Posted by Crank Lucas

Originally Posted by red mpls

Yes, dude is talented. But I have no idea why cats think he's THE most talented rapper ever. Like if dude was black he would definitely get his props but it wouldn't be the love he gets cause he stands out as a talented white dude. A lot of things go into talent as far as MCing goes and part of that is being able to create great/classic material and apply your skills well, things dudes tend to ignore or forget when analyzing Em. He's got a respectable catalogue- Infinite and MMLP are very nice, SSLP and TES are straight, I didn't even listen to Encore. I honestly feel that these are 20 better overall rappers, in no particular order:

1. Rakim
2. Nas
3. 2Pac
4. BIG
5. The D.O.C.
6. Slick Rick
7. Jay-Z
8. Lord Finesse
9. G Rap

10. Kane
11. Cormega
12. Ice Cube
13. KRS One
14. Chuck D
15. Brother Ali
16. Big Pun
17. Scarface
18. Ghostface
19. Prodigy
20. PMD

I could go on...

exactly like i said, ill laugh hard at 5-10 rappers on your list
log off homie, log off
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No One Can Do It Better + The D.O.C.'s influence on The Chronic and Doggystyle > Em's career

Lord Finesse fathered the "punch-line" style and is probably the best to ever do it. He has two LP's and one EP that are in the 4.5-5 range. He has countless, classic production credits. Top 5 MC/producer all-time.

As far as G Rap, I'm not even going to argue the point because it's inexcusable if you don't already know.

Cormega has 3 solo albums in the 4.5-5 range.

Chuck D- see G Rap above

If you haven't listened to Brother Ali's work, don't comment. If you have, you wouldn't be laughing at the thought that he's better than Em.

Prodigy from 1995-2001 > Eminem during any period

PMD was the better-rapping half of 3 straight classics out the gate with EPMD.

Sorry to say it bro but you my friend are dazed.... I can't agree with any of that.
 
Originally Posted by Anorxorcist

He has no classic albums
Actually he has 3.

Slim Shady LP
Marshall Mathers LP
Eminem Show

3 of the most critically acclaimed rap albums of all-time.





Aint none of them albums classic, them cornball singles off each of those albums alone makes it from being classic, plus he has a few other skip songs fromeach album
 
Originally Posted by 650

MM LP is most certainly a classic..

That album none more than 4 mics, i think that album is dope but....


Stan,The Real Slim Shady,Drug Ballad,Amityville, & Kim keeps it from being a classic
 
Stan,The Real Slim Shady,Drug Ballad,Amityville, & Kim keeps it from being a classic
Did you really just say Stan takes away from an album?
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I'm not an Em fan...but what the %@%$?
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stan was dope... its %%!+ like walkin a barking headless dog thats wack...
 
Originally Posted by Anorxorcist

He has no classic albums
Actually he has 3.

Slim Shady LP
Marshall Mathers LP
Eminem Show

3 of the most critically acclaimed rap albums of all-time.





You see this, comments like these let me know some of you dudes have little to no credibility when it comes to hip hop. To even come out of your mouth @%+backwards and say an asinine comment like Eminem has 3 classic albums is beyond ignorance. Then on top of all that, to say his albms were the most criticallyacclaimed rap albums of all-time?? It's like some of you dudes are just walking around aimlesssly in life with no sense of guidance or direction. Classicalbums transcend threw time, which means they will be played years down the line, with that explanation in mind, classic albums and the name Eminem need NOT bein the same sentence together as a connection.
 
Originally Posted by meth68

Originally Posted by red mpls

Originally Posted by Crank Lucas

Originally Posted by red mpls

Yes, dude is talented. But I have no idea why cats think he's THE most talented rapper ever. Like if dude was black he would definitely get his props but it wouldn't be the love he gets cause he stands out as a talented white dude. A lot of things go into talent as far as MCing goes and part of that is being able to create great/classic material and apply your skills well, things dudes tend to ignore or forget when analyzing Em. He's got a respectable catalogue- Infinite and MMLP are very nice, SSLP and TES are straight, I didn't even listen to Encore. I honestly feel that these are 20 better overall rappers, in no particular order:

1. Rakim
2. Nas
3. 2Pac
4. BIG
5. The D.O.C.
6. Slick Rick
7. Jay-Z
8. Lord Finesse
9. G Rap

10. Kane
11. Cormega
12. Ice Cube
13. KRS One
14. Chuck D
15. Brother Ali
16. Big Pun
17. Scarface
18. Ghostface
19. Prodigy
20. PMD

I could go on...

exactly like i said, ill laugh hard at 5-10 rappers on your list
log off homie, log off
lord finesse
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No One Can Do It Better + The D.O.C.'s influence on The Chronic and Doggystyle > Em's career

Lord Finesse fathered the "punch-line" style and is probably the best to ever do it. He has two LP's and one EP that are in the 4.5-5 range. He has countless, classic production credits. Top 5 MC/producer all-time.

As far as G Rap, I'm not even going to argue the point because it's inexcusable if you don't already know.

Cormega has 3 solo albums in the 4.5-5 range.

Chuck D- see G Rap above

If you haven't listened to Brother Ali's work, don't comment. If you have, you wouldn't be laughing at the thought that he's better than Em.

Prodigy from 1995-2001 > Eminem during any period

PMD was the better-rapping half of 3 straight classics out the gate with EPMD.

Sorry to say it bro but you my friend are dazed.... I can't agree with any of that.


I'm far from dazed my man and you don't have to agree with anything. The point I was trying to make is that dudes acting like Eminem is Top 20 noquestions asked need to take a step back because it is very realistic that cats could name 20 MCs they feel are better than Em, as I did. I'm not sayingit's inconceivable for others to think dude is Top 20 because it's largely opinion, but greatestever?!
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Originally Posted by Deuce King

Originally Posted by Anorxorcist

He has no classic albums
Actually he has 3.

Slim Shady LP
Marshall Mathers LP
Eminem Show

3 of the most critically acclaimed rap albums of all-time.

You see this, comments like these let me know some of you dudes have little to no credibility when it comes to hip hop. To even come out of your mouth @%+ backwards and say an asinine comment like Eminem has 3 classic albums is beyond ignorance. Then on top of all that, to say his albms were the most critically acclaimed rap albums of all-time?? It's like some of you dudes are just walking around aimlesssly in life with no sense of guidance or direction. Classic albums transcend threw time, which means they will be played years down the line, with that explanation in mind, classic albums and the name Eminem need NOT be in the same sentence together as a connection.



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I literally LMAO. What makes it even funnier is that it's true.
 
i hope he didnt mean critically acclaimed... i hope he meant criticized cuz thats all they were... that %+!* aint music... its a nice display of flow andtalent but at the end of the day what the +@*% is he talkin bout?!
 
I think people are confusing skill with actual output. Everyone knows Em can rhyme, but he chose to eff around & be the clown. As a result, his albums werenot what they should be.
If pure skill was the only criteria, than Canibus & Super Natural would be in everyone's top 3.
He is a career underachiever IMO.
And how the eff is G Rap not better than Em???
 
Originally Posted by iLLscan

I think people are confusing skill with actual output. Everyone knows Em can rhyme, but he chose to eff around & be the clown. As a result, his albums were not what they should be.
If pure skill was the only criteria, than Canibus & Super Natural would be in everyone's top 3.
He is a career underachiever IMO.
And how the eff is G Rap not better than Em???

You pretty much covered what I was gonna say. Only reason I can think of for a dude saying Eminem is the best ever is if they never heard anotherrapper's catalogue. Somebody actually said Em is better than Pun
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....Yall lil dudes need to start listening to other rappers besides Em
 
Originally Posted by red mpls

Originally Posted by meth68

Originally Posted by red mpls

Originally Posted by Crank Lucas

Originally Posted by red mpls

Yes, dude is talented. But I have no idea why cats think he's THE most talented rapper ever. Like if dude was black he would definitely get his props but it wouldn't be the love he gets cause he stands out as a talented white dude. A lot of things go into talent as far as MCing goes and part of that is being able to create great/classic material and apply your skills well, things dudes tend to ignore or forget when analyzing Em. He's got a respectable catalogue- Infinite and MMLP are very nice, SSLP and TES are straight, I didn't even listen to Encore. I honestly feel that these are 20 better overall rappers, in no particular order:

1. Rakim
2. Nas
3. 2Pac
4. BIG
5. The D.O.C.
6. Slick Rick
7. Jay-Z
8. Lord Finesse
9. G Rap

10. Kane
11. Cormega
12. Ice Cube
13. KRS One
14. Chuck D
15. Brother Ali
16. Big Pun
17. Scarface
18. Ghostface
19. Prodigy
20. PMD

I could go on...

exactly like i said, ill laugh hard at 5-10 rappers on your list
log off homie, log off
lord finesse
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No One Can Do It Better + The D.O.C.'s influence on The Chronic and Doggystyle > Em's career

Lord Finesse fathered the "punch-line" style and is probably the best to ever do it. He has two LP's and one EP that are in the 4.5-5 range. He has countless, classic production credits. Top 5 MC/producer all-time.

As far as G Rap, I'm not even going to argue the point because it's inexcusable if you don't already know.

Cormega has 3 solo albums in the 4.5-5 range.

Chuck D- see G Rap above

If you haven't listened to Brother Ali's work, don't comment. If you have, you wouldn't be laughing at the thought that he's better than Em.

Prodigy from 1995-2001 > Eminem during any period

PMD was the better-rapping half of 3 straight classics out the gate with EPMD.

Sorry to say it bro but you my friend are dazed.... I can't agree with any of that.


I'm far from dazed my man and you don't have to agree with anything. The point I was trying to make is that dudes acting like Eminem is Top 20 no questions asked need to take a step back because it is very realistic that cats could name 20 MCs they feel are better than Em, as I did. I'm not saying it's inconceivable for others to think dude is Top 20 because it's largely opinion, but greatest ever?!
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my man, you are very dazed, you shouldnt be posting on 4/20, matter fact i doubt your even blasted so dont post PERIOD
every rapper you just tried to back up is nowhere close to ems rapping ability, flow+delivery+vocublary
em has that on lock, how you gonna outshine any1 whos on a track with you?
and i REALLY dont wanna make skin color a issue, but you kno em put in work to get respect hes gotten, i mean how many rappers on your list could even put asong together without sayin the N-word?
did i even mention freestyle abilites? (and i aint talkin about 8mile shorty)
ur gonna say influence>em???
so biggies influence on jay > pac
how much sense does that make genius?
son you are half ******ed period to not have em in your top 20
name a song from the rapper highlighted with a better thoughtout/creative song than stan?
log of dun, please log off
 
^ This guy's about to cry cause Eminem ain't in my Top 20. You Em fans are too emotional, just like your favorite rapper.
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Like some others said, I can't believe there are actually people out there who believe em>>> g rap, chuck d, cormega...
 
Originally Posted by iLLscan

I think people are confusing skill with actual output. Everyone knows Em can rhyme, but he chose to eff around & be the clown. As a result, his albums were not what they should be.
If pure skill was the only criteria, than Canibus & Super Natural would be in everyone's top 3.
He is a career underachiever IMO.
And how the eff is G Rap not better than Em???
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I get it, Em can rap good and was in the movie 8th mile that made freestyle battling commercial but can someone explain to me why every time Eminem is brought up with diss tracks people act like he can't be touched?

I remember the benzino beef, Ja rule beef, and em vs pop stars. However that's not enough for me to say man Em is going to kill Drake, Nas, J****, Wayne if they every put out diss tracks........

they bullied Ja and murder inc and Em was exhausted by it. Benzino is a wack rapper and it took almost a 6 game series for Em to dust him off.

Em picked and choosed the weak artists to go after on wax.... B-real, jermaine dupri, insane clown posse, Britney Spears, N sync, Nick cannon, limp biz kit, everlast..

I'm suppose to sit here and say I know Em will kill/end drakes career?

I just don't get it
 
Em in 2001-2003 ? Sure.....eminem hasnt been hot since madden and nba live were the best sports games.....let that sink in
 
skillwise, I think he is.

don't care for his music much since the Eminem show.
 
been going back to his catalog and some of Em's stuff nowadays sounds better after all of this infused pop rap we been getting, i rather listen to straight bars and skill of wordplay, it's what got me to be a fan of hip hop.
 
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