Donald Trump's political stance 2012 ( i ain't even mad )

Originally Posted by Nike Jordan

I wonder if he'll put Gary Busey and Meat Loaf in his cabinet.
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Originally Posted by Biggie62

Wow if half of you dudes actually take him seriously. Dude can't run his businesses correctly and you think that he'll run a country fine?

If you're a tea-bagger then maybe yea you are eating up his nonsense, otherwise, bless you if you do because you've just been brainwashed.

It's the hair..


But all things considered the circus in 2012 that Republicans will bring us will be comedy gold.. 
 
Originally Posted by Biggie62

Wow if half of you dudes actually take him seriously. Dude can't run his businesses correctly and you think that he'll run a country fine?

If you're a tea-bagger then maybe yea you are eating up his nonsense, otherwise, bless you if you do because you've just been brainwashed.

It's the hair..


But all things considered the circus in 2012 that Republicans will bring us will be comedy gold.. 
 
Originally Posted by REDUCE523

Originally Posted by DJprestige21

People view him as a celebrity first and one of the most successful businessmen of our time second. 
 A successful businessman?? This guy went broke running a casino, how can you go broke when the house always wins.

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Originally Posted by REDUCE523

Originally Posted by DJprestige21

People view him as a celebrity first and one of the most successful businessmen of our time second. 
 A successful businessman?? This guy went broke running a casino, how can you go broke when the house always wins.

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Originally Posted by jm2000

Originally Posted by REDUCE523

Originally Posted by DJprestige21

People view him as a celebrity first and one of the most successful businessmen of our time second. 
 A successful businessman?? This guy went broke running a casino, how can you go broke when the house always wins.

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Plus I think all this birther stuff is really going to hurt him in the long run. We're talking about him now, but come 2012 it's gonna his stepping stone to failure. 
 
Originally Posted by jm2000

Originally Posted by REDUCE523

Originally Posted by DJprestige21

People view him as a celebrity first and one of the most successful businessmen of our time second. 
 A successful businessman?? This guy went broke running a casino, how can you go broke when the house always wins.

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Plus I think all this birther stuff is really going to hurt him in the long run. We're talking about him now, but come 2012 it's gonna his stepping stone to failure. 
 
I think completely dismissing Trump is a little silly. I'm all for letting this progress a little to see what he's really made of, politically. Remember, we get to vote so it's not like him running or even just throwing his name in consideration would really hurt anything. I'm all for hearing him out.
 
I think completely dismissing Trump is a little silly. I'm all for letting this progress a little to see what he's really made of, politically. Remember, we get to vote so it's not like him running or even just throwing his name in consideration would really hurt anything. I'm all for hearing him out.
 
I hope he runs. I always want outlandish over the top people to run for presidency. It makes for so many hysterical moments the internet and The Daily Show can run with.
 
I hope he runs. I always want outlandish over the top people to run for presidency. It makes for so many hysterical moments the internet and The Daily Show can run with.
 
What would really happen if Trump issued a "Debt Tax" on the rich at 14.25% for one year? Would that really knock it out? I don't have time to actually run the numbers ...

edit... being the geek i am, i just had to go ahead and try to find something ... this is 2009 data but it will suffice ...

there's roughly 4 million people making over $200k according to the IRS AGI figures ...

i took the lower bound (EXTREMELY conservative) of each range and came up with a weighted average of about 400k for those 4 million people ... this would produce roughly $230 billion in tax revenues ... if i take the higher bound the weighted average comes out to about $838k which would produce roughly $485b ...

simple average would be $360 billion in new tax revenues per year ... Obama is running a $1.5 trillion deficit this year ... smh
 
What would really happen if Trump issued a "Debt Tax" on the rich at 14.25% for one year? Would that really knock it out? I don't have time to actually run the numbers ...

edit... being the geek i am, i just had to go ahead and try to find something ... this is 2009 data but it will suffice ...

there's roughly 4 million people making over $200k according to the IRS AGI figures ...

i took the lower bound (EXTREMELY conservative) of each range and came up with a weighted average of about 400k for those 4 million people ... this would produce roughly $230 billion in tax revenues ... if i take the higher bound the weighted average comes out to about $838k which would produce roughly $485b ...

simple average would be $360 billion in new tax revenues per year ... Obama is running a $1.5 trillion deficit this year ... smh
 
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[h1]How Many Times Has Donald Trump Filed For Bankruptcy?[/h1]
By: Jennifer Mackin

Break Studios Contributing Writer

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For legendary tycoons, Donald Trump tops the list, but how many times has Donald Trump filed for bankruptcy? The 90’s recession wasn’t picky about who it affected. Donald Trump felt the pinch as well. His decision to use high interest bonds to finance the assembly of the Taj Mahal casino caused life to get very stressful for the tycoon.

In 1991, unable to pay a $3.5 billion loan, he declared business bankruptcy. He also came close to filing personal ruin. At the time, his personal debt was estimated to be around $900 million. Due to the bankruptcy, banks and bondholders lost millions. They came to a compromise with Donald Trump. The banks gave him lower interest rates and a longer time frame to repay the debt and Donald Trump gave the investors half the ownership of the Taj Mahal. In mere months the casino was back in business.

Not even a year later, Trump Plaza Hotel folded and Donald had to declare bankruptcy. Again, he worked out a deal where he’d give up 49 percent of the hotel to Citibank and the other lenders and he’d get more time to pay the loan back. It took him two years to repay most of his debt with many sacrifices. He had to give up the Trump Shuttle.

The bankruptcy saga didn’t stop there. In 2004, Donald filed for bankruptcy protection and restructured his debt. He reduced his ownership of Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts to 27 percent and gave bondholders stocks to help lower his debt and then stepped down as CEO. In 2005, things settled down and Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts came out of bankruptcy with a new name, Trump Entertainment Resort Holdings.

Unfortunately the reemergence didn’t last long.  On February 17th 2009, Donald Trump filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy with a debt ratio of $50 million in assets to his $500 million in debt. This filing made the third bankruptcy for Trump Enterprises.
http://www.mademan.com/mm...mp-filed-bankruptcy.html
 
[h1][/h1]
[h1]How Many Times Has Donald Trump Filed For Bankruptcy?[/h1]
By: Jennifer Mackin

Break Studios Contributing Writer

track.jpg


For legendary tycoons, Donald Trump tops the list, but how many times has Donald Trump filed for bankruptcy? The 90’s recession wasn’t picky about who it affected. Donald Trump felt the pinch as well. His decision to use high interest bonds to finance the assembly of the Taj Mahal casino caused life to get very stressful for the tycoon.

In 1991, unable to pay a $3.5 billion loan, he declared business bankruptcy. He also came close to filing personal ruin. At the time, his personal debt was estimated to be around $900 million. Due to the bankruptcy, banks and bondholders lost millions. They came to a compromise with Donald Trump. The banks gave him lower interest rates and a longer time frame to repay the debt and Donald Trump gave the investors half the ownership of the Taj Mahal. In mere months the casino was back in business.

Not even a year later, Trump Plaza Hotel folded and Donald had to declare bankruptcy. Again, he worked out a deal where he’d give up 49 percent of the hotel to Citibank and the other lenders and he’d get more time to pay the loan back. It took him two years to repay most of his debt with many sacrifices. He had to give up the Trump Shuttle.

The bankruptcy saga didn’t stop there. In 2004, Donald filed for bankruptcy protection and restructured his debt. He reduced his ownership of Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts to 27 percent and gave bondholders stocks to help lower his debt and then stepped down as CEO. In 2005, things settled down and Trump Hotels & Casino Resorts came out of bankruptcy with a new name, Trump Entertainment Resort Holdings.

Unfortunately the reemergence didn’t last long.  On February 17th 2009, Donald Trump filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy with a debt ratio of $50 million in assets to his $500 million in debt. This filing made the third bankruptcy for Trump Enterprises.
http://www.mademan.com/mm...mp-filed-bankruptcy.html
 
Originally Posted by Rexanglorum

While I find Mr. Trump's poltical stances generally misgudied and antedilluvian, I must ask, what makes this businessman less serious of a presiential candidate than a half term Senator Obama in 2007?

Um.. The fact that he has no experience in the federal government. That might be just a minor difference there buddy. The fact that Obama is a graduate of Harvard Law. Come on.
 
Originally Posted by Rexanglorum

While I find Mr. Trump's poltical stances generally misgudied and antedilluvian, I must ask, what makes this businessman less serious of a presiential candidate than a half term Senator Obama in 2007?

Um.. The fact that he has no experience in the federal government. That might be just a minor difference there buddy. The fact that Obama is a graduate of Harvard Law. Come on.
 
DaComeUP wrote:
Originally Posted by Rexanglorum

While I find Mr. Trump's poltical stances generally misgudied and antedilluvian, I must ask, what makes this businessman less serious of a presiential candidate than a half term Senator Obama in 2007?

Um.. The fact that he has no experience in the federal government. That might be just a minor difference there buddy. The fact that Obama is a graduate of Harvard Law. Come on.

Barack Obama was a Junior Senator for two years when he left his job to campaign in 2007, that is hardly very extensive experience and going by experience as a metric John McCain, who has decades of experience being in the Federal government should have been elected.

As far as his being editor of the HLR, that is a great accomplishment and in theory it might mean similar excelleance in governance. We do not need to use theory we have empirical proof and we have seen how an editor of the HLR governs. In my opinion, based on what has actually happened since his election, it seem that excelance go lost on its way from Cambridge to Washington. We have had stimulus that has failed, a deficit that is killing our economy and a war where the paperwork was flawless (save for that over sight of not involving Congress) but the endgame was non existant.

I do not see how Barack Obama, in 2007, was a particularly "serious" candidate himself.




  
 
DaComeUP wrote:
Originally Posted by Rexanglorum

While I find Mr. Trump's poltical stances generally misgudied and antedilluvian, I must ask, what makes this businessman less serious of a presiential candidate than a half term Senator Obama in 2007?

Um.. The fact that he has no experience in the federal government. That might be just a minor difference there buddy. The fact that Obama is a graduate of Harvard Law. Come on.

Barack Obama was a Junior Senator for two years when he left his job to campaign in 2007, that is hardly very extensive experience and going by experience as a metric John McCain, who has decades of experience being in the Federal government should have been elected.

As far as his being editor of the HLR, that is a great accomplishment and in theory it might mean similar excelleance in governance. We do not need to use theory we have empirical proof and we have seen how an editor of the HLR governs. In my opinion, based on what has actually happened since his election, it seem that excelance go lost on its way from Cambridge to Washington. We have had stimulus that has failed, a deficit that is killing our economy and a war where the paperwork was flawless (save for that over sight of not involving Congress) but the endgame was non existant.

I do not see how Barack Obama, in 2007, was a particularly "serious" candidate himself.




  
 
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