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Now, I'm not gonna try THAT hard... but let me guess...it's because the league is now majority black and all the biggest stars are black(and atheletic for that matter) so the main reason ppl hate on Nash is because he can't guard a flag pole. Duh,everyone knows that. What did you think I was gonna say?Originally Posted by kash55
All the hate disgusts me. Nash is Top 10 greatest point guard of all time.
And I think I know what the reason for most of the hate is about, but everybody would deny it.
Nuh uh!Originally Posted by Kal Ripped Ken
he's probably the best canadian to ever play, that holds significance too
Originally Posted by DearWinter219
Now, I'm not gonna try THAT hard... but let me guess...it's because the league is now majority black and all the biggest stars are black (and atheletic for that matter) so the main reason ppl hate on Nash is because he can't guard a flag pole. Duh, everyone knows that. What did you think I was gonna say?Originally Posted by kash55
All the hate disgusts me. Nash is Top 10 greatest point guard of all time.
And I think I know what the reason for most of the hate is about, but everybody would deny it.
Also... ahem... and this is easy as hell..
Magic
Kidd
Paul
Thomas
Parker
Cousy
Stockton
Payton
Pistol
Iverson
Pick one... they're all EASILY better point guards than Nash if you want to talk peak performances.
Originally Posted by Osh Kosh Bosh
I don't think you can really question that Nash offensively was a better player than Kidd and I don't think you can really question that Kidd was a better player than Nash.
Are they really that far apart? It seems like they cancel one another out.
Typo, Kidd is a better defensive player.Originally Posted by yungmatt
Originally Posted by Osh Kosh Bosh
I don't think you can really question that Nash offensively was a better player than Kidd and I don't think you can really question that Kidd was a better player than Nash.
Are they really that far apart? It seems like they cancel one another out.
I agree with the first part...
But NO to whats in bold
Originally Posted by Osh Kosh Bosh
Typo, Kidd is a better defensive player.Originally Posted by yungmatt
Originally Posted by Osh Kosh Bosh
I don't think you can really question that Nash offensively was a better player than Kidd and I don't think you can really question that Kidd was a better player than Nash.
Are they really that far apart? It seems like they cancel one another out.
I agree with the first part...
But NO to whats in bold
O: Nash>>>Kidd
D: Kidd>>>Nash
How come Kidd is a hall of fame lock but Nash isn't?
Team Year ORtg League Diff--------------------------------------Dallas 2003-04 114.1 104.2 9.9Phoenix 2004-05 116.6 107.4 9.2Dallas 2001-02 114.0 105.8 8.2Denver 1981-82 116.3 108.5 7.8Chicago 1996-97 115.8 108.0 7.8Dallas 2002-03 112.7 104.9 7.8
Originally Posted by jville819
Dude has career averages of 14 ppg and 8 apg is that a HOF career?
Originally Posted by RyGuy45
The Nash bashing continues....
Take away his MVPs (but keep the stats and seasons) would he still end up in the HOF at some point?
Probably.
But that's hard for many to take because they WANT to dislike Nash and see him fail....which is fine. Kobe gets it too and so do others. Ive come to realize majority of NT didnt play much organized ball and don't really have a grasp on what good basketball is unless it's dudes flying over guys or breaking ankles. That's okay too.
In Nash's case he is no Magic, he's no Oscar, he's no Isiah. He doesn't have the chips. We know that. But he's in another group that still are HOFers.
Nash's biggest negatives with some of the public are that he's not dunking on Sportscenter Top 10, he's white and looks like he could be your science teacher, and he doesnt play much defense....although the "defense" argument is conveniently overlooked whenever we talk about anything else involving the NBA.
If you followed Nash's career and really watched the games he played (I'm talking watched him.....like 20-30 times or more per year and not just box scores or fantasy basketball or Sportscenter) you would get a better understanding of what he brings to the table.....and why countless NBA people and former NBA players have said how good a floor general he really is and how they would have killed to play with him.
And lastly regardless of what anyone thinks, or regardless of his negatives (and every player has his negatives) Nash still has a few years left to play but already has 2 MVPs, 6 All Star games, 6 All NBA teams, 3 Assist titles, and after 13 seasons is still a career .485 FG, .431 3PT, .900 FT. That's no joke either. His teams never stunk up the joint either which is what good PGs are responsible for and which is what most the top NBA assist leaders all have as traits. We can compare Nash's individual stats to a guy like HOF guard Calvin Murphy....yes this is the basketball HOF that takes everything in your career into account. However compare Nash's NBA accolades above with Calvin Murphy's: One All Star appearance, Zero All NBA teams, Zero Assist Titles, Zero rings.
Murphy is in the Hall of Fame.
Originally Posted by jville819
Dude has career averages of 14 ppg and 8 apg is that a HOF career?
why are people even posting after that comment?
There are players with lesser stats than that in the HoF and who have won MVP (Wes Unseld).