DO THINGS REALLY HAPPEN FOR A REASON?? DO YOU BELIVE IN A AFTERLIFE??

[finnns2003]

Originally Posted by Essential1

1. Things happen for a reason because it was your action that caused it.



2. Yes.. I hope... If I think there is nothing after man my life will be a wreck even as I am of generally good health.

that's my whole reasoning, for why things DON'T happen for a reason. we're in control of things. there's no intervention from god,right? so there was a reason that thousands upon thousands were wiped out in hurricane katrina? what was that reason? c'mon...

 

[methedy24]

Originally Posted by Stork

no, people just want to be believe in an afterlife since they already walking around dead imo

- basically


- If there IS an afterlife, most likely it will be nothinglike this experience, in terms of recognition of other beings, overall consciousness, survivalmethods/techniques/necessities, competitiveness, reason for existence, etc.

- None of us "Know," but many can't handle the impending reality of death foreternity and the uncertainty that follows.

 

[noodles]

Originally Posted by finnns2003

that's my whole reasoning, for why things DON'T happen for a reason. we're in control of things. there's no intervention from god, right? so there was a reason that thousands upon thousands were wiped out in hurricane katrina? what was that reason? c'mon...

Hur Kat was influenced by man. there are technologies that can influence the weather and weather patterns. my reasoning is solidified by theslipshod response to the region, during and after Katrina.

 

[essential1]

Originally Posted by finnns2003

Originally Posted by Essential1

1. Things happen for a reason because it was your action that caused it.



2. Yes.. I hope... If I think there is nothing after man my life will be a wreck even as I am of generally good health.

that's my whole reasoning, for why things DON'T happen for a reason. we're in control of things. there's no intervention from god, right? so there was a reason that thousands upon thousands were wiped out in hurricane katrina? what was that reason? c'mon...

under built levees was the reason for that. Should it have happened? Hell naw. But that is the reason it happened.

 

[mfury]

Originally Posted by MikeTysontheKiller

Originally Posted by JoseBronx

obviously no

How is it obvious? If you don't think things happen for a reason, that's your thing, but how is it obvious?

 

[Master Zik]

For humans in general things HAVE to happen for a reason. No man/woman can really stomach that everything they do in their daily lives as long as they live ispointless and a literal waste of time.

People for the most part need their lives to have meaning and a purpose, for everything else not that much.

I try not to do anymore thinking about it, I've kinda come to the conclusion that if things don't happen for a reason oh well, I'm still gonna livemy life the way I see fit. If it does then it'd bother me a bit more since it would fee like I'm being watched, I'm not a huge fan of the lack offree will/destiny/fate and all that even the convoluted theories.

 

[finnns2003]

WHOOPS. I meant the tsunami disaster. Not hurricane katrina. I'm tired, my bad... So explain the tsunami? lol, there is no explanation. There isn't areason for everything. Why do good people get cancer? Why are innocent people struck by stray bullets? We can go on all day.

 

[falcon4567]

I don't see how those two questions are related

 

[essential1]

Originally Posted by finnns2003

WHOOPS. I meant the tsunami disaster. Not hurricane katrina. I'm tired, my bad... So explain the tsunami? lol, there is no explanation. There isn't a reason for everything. Why do good people get cancer? Why are innocent people struck by stray bullets? We can go on all day.

so who determines it? God? I'm just trying to fully understand your point of view.

 

[finnns2003]

Originally Posted by Essential1

Originally Posted by finnns2003

WHOOPS. I meant the tsunami disaster. Not hurricane katrina. I'm tired, my bad... So explain the tsunami? lol, there is no explanation. There isn't a reason for everything. Why do good people get cancer? Why are innocent people struck by stray bullets? We can go on all day.

so who determines it? God? I'm just trying to fully understand your point of view.

we'll never know for sure. what we do know is that events are so random in life that there is no set of reasoning for things. person A canlive a life of faith, do all the right things, and die in a horrific accident while person B can be a scumbag, rape people, and live a long healthy life untildeath. so then we're supposed to 'believe' that in the end, person A would be more likely to go to heaven than person B. but we won't know forsure, right? just saying there's a bunch of variables to this. i could write a 300 page report on this.

 

[birdsiview]

I was thinking today about the possibility of us progressing through the dimensions with each life.

 

[essential1]

I believe in God but I believe Religion is bull and if God could convey his point he would disapprove of it. But that is not what we are discussing here, ifGod is doing this it would be making him out to be a %*%%#*%. I believe God loves every person no matter what they do, but to think every action ineveryone's life is too much. He doesn't care that much.


Tsunamis are a series of waves that is created when a large volume of a body of water, such as an ocean, is rapidly displaced. Earthquakes, volcanic eruptionsand other underwater explosions (detonations of nuclear devices at sea), landslides, bolide impacts, and other mass movements above or below water all have thepotential to generate a tsunami. Due to the immense volumes of water and energy involved, the effects of tsunamis can be devastating.

People get cancer through genetics, or life activities one would be smoking

People get hit by stray bullets because they just so happen to leave the house a minute late because they forgot something, or walked too fast or happened tobe at wrong place at the wrong time for some reason of their decision. They made a decision to walk over to a corner and at that time there was a drive by.


None of it is fair except the smoking part but it is life. Your decisions always have a consequence. If I fall off a cliff and die. God didn't throw me offa cliff to show me something, I slipped off the edge myself.
To think god has the time to dictate every little detail in everyone's life, would make it seem like God has nothing better to do.

 

[jfmartimcdandruff]

things happen because of things you did before.

 

[philballa09]

Yes

 

[addictedtofreshkicks]

idk

 

[fittednoob]

-Do things happen for a reason? nahh, its all you and your doings/actions. No one but you control your actions.

-Do I believe there's an afterlife? No, I believe after we die, we just restart our life and it goes on exactly like it did before. Over and over again,which is what I believe dejavu really is. Youve done the same thing before in your past life that you actually remember yourself doing it. Idk, just what goeson in my head.

 

[finnns2003]

Originally Posted by Essential1

I believe in God but I believe Religion is bull and if God could convey his point he would disapprove of it. But that is not what we are discussing here, if God is doing this it would be making him out to be a %*%%#*%. I believe God loves every person no matter what they do, but to think every action in everyone's life is too much. He doesn't care that much.


Tsunamis are a series of waves that is created when a large volume of a body of water, such as an ocean, is rapidly displaced. Earthquakes, volcanic eruptions and other underwater explosions (detonations of nuclear devices at sea), landslides, bolide impacts, and other mass movements above or below water all have the potential to generate a tsunami. Due to the immense volumes of water and energy involved, the effects of tsunamis can be devastating.

People get cancer through genetics, or life activities one would be smoking

People get hit by stray bullets because they just so happen to leave the house a minute late because they forgot something, or walked too fast or happened to be at wrong place at the wrong time for some reason of their decision. They made a decision to walk over to a corner and at that time there was a drive by.


None of it is fair except the smoking part but it is life. Your decisions always have a consequence. If I fall off a cliff and die. God didn't throw me off a cliff to show me something, I slipped off the edge myself.
To think god has the time to dictate every little detail in everyone's life, would make it seem like God has nothing better to do.

good points, it's what i used to reason, but for some reason i've shied away from thinking like that. in the end, it's not importantenough to make me change the way i do things. life's simple, you make choices and you don't look back. who really cares in the end.

 

[essential1]

Originally Posted by finnns2003

Originally Posted by Essential1

I believe in God but I believe Religion is bull and if God could convey his point he would disapprove of it. But that is not what we are discussing here, if God is doing this it would be making him out to be a %*%%#*%. I believe God loves every person no matter what they do, but to think every action in everyone's life is too much. He doesn't care that much.


Tsunamis are a series of waves that is created when a large volume of a body of water, such as an ocean, is rapidly displaced. Earthquakes, volcanic eruptions and other underwater explosions (detonations of nuclear devices at sea), landslides, bolide impacts, and other mass movements above or below water all have the potential to generate a tsunami. Due to the immense volumes of water and energy involved, the effects of tsunamis can be devastating.

People get cancer through genetics, or life activities one would be smoking

People get hit by stray bullets because they just so happen to leave the house a minute late because they forgot something, or walked too fast or happened to be at wrong place at the wrong time for some reason of their decision. They made a decision to walk over to a corner and at that time there was a drive by.


None of it is fair except the smoking part but it is life. Your decisions always have a consequence. If I fall off a cliff and die. God didn't throw me off a cliff to show me something, I slipped off the edge myself.
To think god has the time to dictate every little detail in everyone's life, would make it seem like God has nothing better to do.

good points, it's what i used to reason, but for some reason i've shied away from thinking like that. in the end, it's not important enough to make me change the way i do things. life's simple, you make choices and you don't look back. who really cares in the end.

Yeah true that I agree with you, on what you just said. Theres no point to say for ex: oh man I never got to tell her how I felt blah blah.. Why is god doingthis to me, what's he trying to tell me? The answer is he's not doing anything, he is not trying to tell you something, you're a fool because youdidn't tell her how you felt.

Now my argument is saying things happen for a reason but not a reason of god's master plan. The reason is because everything has a cause and effect, if itdidn't than the world would be chaos. I think that is where God plays in, allowing us the chance to make our own master plan. He doesn't randomly pickpeople out and say YOU I FOUND YOU FIVE DOLLARS YESTERDAY NEXT WEEK I WILL HAVE YOU OBTAIN CANCER. Kind of makes god look like he picks fate through a Rolodexand a Dart Board with different actions and occurrences.

 

[il prescelto]

no.

 

[finnns2003]

Originally Posted by Essential1

Originally Posted by finnns2003

good points, it's what i used to reason, but for some reason i've shied away from thinking like that. in the end, it's not important enough to make me change the way i do things. life's simple, you make choices and you don't look back. who really cares in the end.

Yeah true that I agree with you, on what you just said. Theres no point to say for ex: oh man I never got to tell her how I felt blah blah.. Why is god doing this to me, what's he trying to tell me? The answer is he's not doing anything, he is not trying to tell you something, you're a fool because you didn't tell her how you felt.

Now my argument is saying things happen for a reason but not a reason of god's master plan. The reason is because everything has a cause and effect, if it didn't than the world would be chaos. I think that is where God plays in, allowing us the chance to make our own master plan. He doesn't randomly pick people out and say YOU I FOUND YOU FIVE DOLLARS YESTERDAY NEXT WEEK I WILL HAVE YOU OBTAIN CANCER. Kind of makes god look like he picks fate through a Rolodex and a Dart Board with different actions and occurrences.

this is true. i think my biggest problem is when people ask "why god?" he's not doing this. my biggest question is about blessings.are they a myth? for ex: "thank god i woke up on my own for the exam, my alarm didn't go off, what a blessing" i don't buy that it was ablessing, it was just life's processes taking their course.

 

[essential1]

Originally Posted by finnns2003

Originally Posted by Essential1

Originally Posted by finnns2003

good points, it's what i used to reason, but for some reason i've shied away from thinking like that. in the end, it's not important enough to make me change the way i do things. life's simple, you make choices and you don't look back. who really cares in the end.

Yeah true that I agree with you, on what you just said. Theres no point to say for ex: oh man I never got to tell her how I felt blah blah.. Why is god doing this to me, what's he trying to tell me? The answer is he's not doing anything, he is not trying to tell you something, you're a fool because you didn't tell her how you felt.

Now my argument is saying things happen for a reason but not a reason of god's master plan. The reason is because everything has a cause and effect, if it didn't than the world would be chaos. I think that is where God plays in, allowing us the chance to make our own master plan. He doesn't randomly pick people out and say YOU I FOUND YOU FIVE DOLLARS YESTERDAY NEXT WEEK I WILL HAVE YOU OBTAIN CANCER. Kind of makes god look like he picks fate through a Rolodex and a Dart Board with different actions and occurrences.

this is true. i think my biggest problem is when people ask "why god?" he's not doing this. my biggest question is about blessings. are they a myth? for ex: "thank god i woke up on my own for the exam, my alarm didn't go off, what a blessing" i don't buy that it was a blessing, it was just life's processes taking their course.

I remember someone said to me "Thank god I work up today" I hit them with the

and then said "well if you didn't you would be dead, then you orGod wouldn't have to worry about it." This is why I hate religion more and more each day, people give all thanks to god. God did everything for me.Is it not possible you won the damn Grammy yourself? Or is it not possible your 10 hours of studying made you pass a test?

That and the vicious hate religious people push when they only follow half of the Bible, if they follow all of it then I'm not mad at ya.

 

[dayman]

i really hope so...but absolutely not in my opinion.

 

[brettthejett]

I see some sort of coordination

 

[essential1]

Originally Posted by brettTHEjett

I see some sort of coordination

this is your man for that

 

[bns1201]

who created god? are you gonna tell me he just...appeared one day and boom made us?

either way, nothing happens for a reason...people just find any speck of coincidence in a situation and call it fate. But as for an afterlife, I cant see therenot being one...what happens do we just fade to black and thats it....be bored in a casket for eternity? Energy cannot be created nor destroyed so there MUSTbe something more to life than our time spent here on earth