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last question- is the rise the same on the PNS and NS? thanks!
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I think size 28-30 PNS have a .25" larger rise than size 28-30 PS but other than that they're all the same IIRC
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thank you
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Man I really don't need another pair but at that price I might do it lol
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Wanted to buy a pair of APCs off that website but they don't have my size 
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repped sir.
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same here- next time...Wanted to buy a pair of APCs off that website but they don't have my size
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man for sure, folks acting like its science and not art...smh
basically, buy heavier weight denim, and those threads will hold up better/longer...lighter fabric lends to stretch easier...
always cold water wash, and always flat (lay out) dry
As far as wear/wash... many say contrary to popular belief when raw denim was all the rage(neverwash), that you could/should wash as much as you want and not expect deifferent wear-through results... I believe even the denim gods over at self-edge made comment in an interview that care for jeans wasnt a big deal ("just wash them, they're jeans" iirc)
I personally feel like cold water, only, and obv never ever ever a dryer...and only doing so after really really wearing beating and giving your jeans hell before wash one.... once you mesh and blend that stiff indigo element with that soft cotton, you dont nearly give your jeans the opportunity to contrast and wear through that most would prefer.
in short, youre stretch factor on 100% cotton jeans has way more to do with cut, care and construction, than it does anything else.
and to whomever said "knee stretch is inevitable" needs to buy an actual nice pair of jeans from SE...there are many brands they offer that are worthy, pjb, roy, fh, sugarcane, samurai, skulls, etc..... APC are a nice beginner project but would never compare to the fabric and makeup of something bought from a reputable japanese american repro (or inspired) brand
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i miss being able to wear jeans on a daily basis to get some great wear in. the process is extemely slow when you can only a pair at most 2x a week.
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yes, the stuff at SE all looks incredibly amazing. but for those prices, it is an absolute must that i try on. next time i'm in SF, it will be my first stop.man for sure, folks acting like its science and not art...smh
basically, buy heavier weight denim, and those threads will hold up better/longer...lighter fabric lends to stretch easier...
always cold water wash, and always flat (lay out) dry
As far as wear/wash... many say contrary to popular belief when raw denim was all the rage(neverwash), that you could/should wash as much as you want and not expect deifferent wear-through results... I believe even the denim gods over at self-edge made comment in an interview that care for jeans wasnt a big deal ("just wash them, they're jeans" iirc)
I personally feel like cold water, only, and obv never ever ever a dryer...and only doing so after really really wearing beating and giving your jeans hell before wash one.... once you mesh and blend that stiff indigo element with that soft cotton, you dont nearly give your jeans the opportunity to contrast and wear through that most would prefer.
in short, youre stretch factor on 100% cotton jeans has way more to do with cut, care and construction, than it does anything else.
and to whomever said "knee stretch is inevitable" needs to buy an actual nice pair of jeans from SE...there are many brands they offer that are worthy, pjb, roy, fh, sugarcane, samurai, skulls, etc..... APC are a nice beginner project but would never compare to the fabric and makeup of something bought from a reputable japanese american repro (or inspired) brand
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I see a pair of APC's in my life soon
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pulled the trigger on the PRPS Noirs; will post pics upon arrival
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what's the stretch factor like on RL selvedge denim & supply ..would u recommend sizing down one or two
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Man, I got a $120 gift card for APC like 2 years ago that I never used..
Hopefully it'll still work so I can pick up some jeans. Gonna be my first pair of raw denim.
Hopefully it'll still work so I can pick up some jeans. Gonna be my first pair of raw denim.
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you'll love having raw denim. it really is cool to see and fell how they change over time.
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damn its me
Apologies. Should have said that knee stretch is inevitable for APCs, at least from my experience.Although, the knee on my PNS haven't stretched much at all.
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Try once a month if you wanna talk about a slow process .
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Yup I'm barely seeing fades on my PRPS Ramblers which are two years old
I only wear them on weekends or if I go out during the week
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Are your prps raw? Seems like most of your pairs come predistressed
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No these are straight up raw; I have raw orange/purple Barracudas too but I haven't worn them in forever
I love the Rambler fit
Here is a pic when I first copped model P45P28V
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If i were in your guys' situation, I would put them on right after work everyday and wear them until you sleep. I have also slept in my nudie selvage a few times, just to get some of the stiffness out - haha
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Haha I've slept in them once but when I get home from work I just wanna put sweatpants 
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i understand that completelyHaha I've slept in them once but when I get home from work I just wanna put sweatpants
