Originally Posted by
NinerFaithful
has anyone done or seen anybody's jeans who soaked their's in seawater?
http://www.apc.fr/eu/en/jeans_recipes.php
Is there any difference in appearance
i doubt anyone has tried that, and if someone has, i doubt there is a significant, if any, difference. salt water basically inhibits bacterial growth bybeing deposited in the weave of the denim. the sand creates more friction, rubs off more nasty gunk, and rubs out some of that salt. the final freshwatertreatment washes them, so there is no more saltiness in your jeans. in a washer your detergent cleans your jeans of gunk and bacteria, then you dry them. samedifference
Originally Posted by Andrew630
is there a place to get APCs below retail?
this has been answered a few times. try going back through the last few pages.
Originally Posted by Andrew630
why doesnt denimbar sell APC anymore?
they do, it's just that it's sold out so quickly they don't bother to put them up online most of the time after shipments arrive at their 2actual store locations. if you call them they may still have a pair or 2 of odd sizes available.
Originally Posted by tecca nena
i havent read all of the replies but the main issue this thread seems to be that its named DENIM SCHOOL. its waaaay to vague to really school someone on all denim when the definition of quality in general, from a marketers point of view, is strictly up to the consumers view point. if the consumer loves soft denim because if feels nice. then thats what quality is. If the consumer loves hard denim because it results in better wear in the long run. thats the definition of quality. no one has the same definition of quality. So the arguments over whos denim is better is purely subjective.
this is true to an extent, hence why in my previous long post i talked about not having a scale for quality. in general quality = durability + luxuriouswhen speaking in terms of jeans. so yes, in that sense the "luxurious" feel of softer mall denim would be maxed, yet durability would be minimized.on the other hand raw denim would have max durability, but luxurious feel would be compromised; so in the end, 1+0 and 0+1 both equal 1. this is why i talkedabout denim being a choice, not an objective scale on which to judge different styles.
i
assumed that most people coming into this thread have the intention of getting into more rigid jeans, and want to know about how good thehardware is on their jeans, how well they will fade, and most of all how long they will last. it ended up a bit skewed, with people thinking mall brands beinginferior (and again, refer to my long previous post). inferior in DURABILITY and CONSTRUCTION, yes, but what if you like them faded already? if you like how itdrapes? if you like the versatility of colors immediately available to you? then no.
lastly, if you look at the mall brand scale for quality, you'll see that it's more based off of NAME BRAND more than it is off of anythingthat's INTRINSIC to the jeans themselves, something that's involved in the process and production of the item. a company that does more to advertisetheir name than their "quality" is a profit-making machine, based off of trends and ever-changing fashions. brand names are more about personalchoices, and cannot be measured on such an objective scale because the items themselves have no intrinsic value built in, other than in the popularity of nameand forwardness/trendiness of design (again, both of which are personal choices). for those of you who are confused, this means "quality" denim hasan objective scale on which is measurable, like most of what has been thrown around in this thread - hardware, weave, weight, stitching, all of which can becounted on to be done in a careful and thoughtful manner.
yes i know i juxtaposed myself, but i wanted to play devil's advocate...so to give most of youboth sides of the story.
