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[paulwest1985]

Suicide Squad: 17 things we learnt from David Ayer

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

1. The original script started in Belle Reve

"The very first script started in Belle Reve and told the backstories of everybody in these sort of flashback montages. The original conception is that there would be these memory bursts as they sat in their cells recalling their previous lives and also get the audience up to speed about who they are and how they ended up there. The first impulse was always to do a montage in the first act, but you chase different things."

2. It’s an ‘anarchic punk rock art movie’

"The film is really the journey of the soul. I know this is going to provoke incredible howls of outrage, but it’s really this anarchic punk rock art movie. June Moone goes into this cave where she becomes possessed by this alter-ego that’s hypersexual and primitive and destructive and vengeful. Everybody who has to take her down experiences their own sort of ‘dark night of the soul’ as Enchantress offers up this fantasy reality where she can provide them with a false nirvana, false happiness. The film, in a lot of ways, is really about the splitting of the personality and addiction, and the dark side of the soul."

3. It was the bat way or no way

"When I signed on, I explicitly asked for Batman. Everything’s always done in his viewpoint, in this case we see Batman through the eyes of the baddies that he arrests, so I thought it was important to show how he takes them down."

4. There’s no R-rated cut

"You could easily make this R-rated by having two F-bombs or someone smoke a cigarette. But that’s not what I think people mean when they ask for an R-rated version, so it was always meant to be a PG-13. It’s a decision you make before you turn the cameras on."

5. Scott Eastwood isn’t playing **** Grayson. Or Roy Harper. Sorry

"He's Flag's right-hand man, GQ, a fairly straightforward military character."

6. Only two Skwad members were ever going to snuff it

"There was never a third. It’s pretty standard in the structure of all the Suicide Squad stories that somebody rebels against the system and gets executed by Amanda [Waller] or Flag, so it was important to show the consequences. You’re always wrestling with something like this, you know, 'Why would the bad guys play along?'."

7. Boomerang’s pink plush unicorn, ‘Pinky’, was a late addition

"[Pinky] was actually intended to be a piece of set decoration in one of our office building sets. I thought [Boomerang] needed a little something kind of fun and silly and it kept appearing throughout the film. It became a bit of a mascot. Yes, [he’s a] Brony. Which is fine. I think it’s a good thing and gives him a little hobby besides robbing banks."

8. The Joker owes his ‘damaged’ tattoo to the Boy Wonder

"This is sort of my personal thing and maybe less about a larger connection. But Joker killed Robin and Batman basically smashes his teeth out and locks him up in Arkham Asylum. It’s in the asylum where Joker would have done the ‘damaged’ tattoo as a message to Batman saying, 'You’ve damaged me. I was so beautiful before and now you’ve destroyed my face.' That’s where the grill comes from."

9. The version you see in cinemas is the ‘dossier’ version

"There’s a linear version we did where it opens up with June in the cave and tells the story in sequence with the arrests and Batman, and then we go to Belle Reve. Honestly, there may be six or seven different versions of the film. In that version, [test] audiences were left with a lot of questions and a little disoriented as to who to watch and why. So we came up with what we call the ‘dossier’ version which has Amanda presenting the backstories and origins of the various members."

10. Amanda Waller gets what Amanda Waller wants

"She’s an intelligence officer, and if you start running down the logic trails of things and you have this Batman figure acting as a vigilante – and at this point he’s been doing it for maybe 20 years – the intelligence services would absolutely figure out who this guy is and where he comes from. You’d put a friggin’ drone over Gotham City and just track the guy, it’s only logical. Amanda Waller would somehow get this information. There’s something fascinating in how she could wrangle these monsters. She has to be an apex predator in order to control them."

11. Ayer has no regrets over Slipknot’s early demise

"You have to pick and choose your battles, and Slipknot gets his head blown off pretty quickly. I made a commitment early on not to try and create some kind of misdirect, because when you have that many characters, every frame of real estate is priceless. I didn’t want to invest in that real estate to create some misdirect, because after opening night everyone knows he dies anyway."

12. Pink Floyd inspired a scene involving The Joker

"Yes, there’s some onesies (you can just see a baby onesie in the top right of the above picture). Some roses, some onesies, some piano keys, cell phones, laptops, obviously a lot of knives and weapons, a lot of empty bottles and some tied-off bags of god knows what. It was inspired a little bit from Pink Floyd, the movie when Pete goes insane in the hotel room."

13. Ayer didn’t feel constrained by the DC Cinematic Universe at large

"Initially there was a lot of discussion about how to connect to the Justice League movie. Obviously in continuity this is post-Batman V Superman, but Wonder Woman is an earlier timeline than this so I was kind of free and clear of any friendly fire. But Flash and Aquaman are sort of in present day timelines, so we just had to steer clear of all that. My best analogy is: this is a fleet of ships crossing the ocean, but you get to be captain of your own vessel."

14. Don’t call Jared Leto’s performance a cameo

"I think there was an expectation of what the film should have been. People really wanted more Joker and wanted him to be an A-plot component. And it’s funny how the critics call it a cameo but he has some fantastic sequences that are really important for the film. He really influences the journey quite a bit."

15. There’s a reason The Flash captured Captain Boomerang

"Boomerang is a Flash character, a Flash villain, traditionally. So it only made sense that it would be The Flash that captured him, so we dropped Ezra [Miller] in for his brief cameo. There’s a history of rivalry between them."

16. Amanda Waller is the mission

"The movie is basically Amanda Waller covering up her mistake, because she was the one that decided to use Enchantress as part of the original core Suicide Squad. Waller deploys her to clean up this entity that appears, which unbeknownst to Amanda is actually Enchantress’s brother. So Enchantress engineers her escape from Amanda Waller and then Waller decides to cover it up by having the Suicide Squad rescue her and get her out of that city. It’s funny because the plot gets deemed as being incredibly simple, but it’s actually extremely complex!"

17. So just what is on Griggs’ (Ike Barinholtz) internet history?

"I think it’s better left unsaid! I think he does a lot of eBay shopping."

Reminds me of that black mercy plant from the For the Man Who has Everything storyline. 

 

[7th Chamber]

I hope they film that brutal beatdown for the batman solo movie. 

You have nothing. Nothing to threaten me with. Nothing to do with all your strength...

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[paulwest1985]

 

[7th Chamber]

 

[jays25]

Hope we see flashbacks to Joker killing Jason Todd. Dying is the most important thing that kid ever did, so we can't cut that scene for DC's big cinematic universe.

 

[ronaldcinho]

Hope we see flashbacks to Joker killing Jason Todd. Dying is the most important thing that kid ever did, so we can't cut that scene for DC's big cinematic universe.

it's bound to happen especially if we get red hood in the dceu...especially if ayer has a say, since he and snyder have basically laid the groundwork for jason's death in this universe.

 

[paulwest1985]

 
it's bound to happen especially if we get red hood in the dceu...especially if ayer has a say, since he and snyder have basically laid the groundwork for jason's death in this universe.

Twenty years in Gotham. How many good guys are left? How many stay that way? He has the power to wipe out the entire human race, and we have to destroy him.

I keep wondering if he was reffering to Robin or 2-face

 

[headdetective]

I think he was clearly talking about 2face.

 

[krazyrodzilla]

‘Suicide Squad’ Super Tuesday Not Only An August Record, But Also Beats ‘Civil War’

Don’t underestimate the box office traction of Warner Bros. Suicide Squad. In its fifth day at the box office, the David Ayer DC villain movie took in $14.27M, up 9% from Monday. Of course, that’s a record Tuesday in August, and as we’ve seen all along, Suicide Squad keeps whomping Disney/Marvel’s Guardians of the Galaxy records. That film previously owned the Tuesday high for August with $11.9M. But here’s what Suicide Squad‘s till yesterday outflanks when it comes to Tuesday highs: Captain America: Civil War‘s at $13.76M, Avengers: Age of Ultron‘s $13.1M and Batman v. Superman‘s $12.7M Tuesday.

'Suicide Squad' Secures Record Monday Haul For August, Eyes $51M-$54M In 2nd Weekend - B.O...

Through five days, Suicide Squad has collected $161.1M. It will rule again in its second weekend with $51M-$54M as three wide entries enter the market — Sony/Annapurna’s Sausage Party, Disney’s Pete’s Dragon and Paramount’s Florence Foster Jenkins.

 

[jays25]

 
it's bound to happen especially if we get red hood in the dceu...especially if ayer has a say, since he and snyder have basically laid the groundwork for jason's death in this universe.

Twenty years in Gotham. How many good guys are left? How many stay that way? He has the power to wipe out the entire human race, and we have to destroy him.

I keep wondering if he was reffering to Robin or 2-face

A few of Batman's villains could fit in that statement and I think it was meant to be like that, but i'd guess Two-Face. Red Hood works better if Bruce doesn't know anything about who he is until the actual film about him, assuming they make one.

 

[ksteezy]

‘Suicide Squad’ Super Tuesday Not Only An August Record, But Also Beats ‘Civil War’

Don’t underestimate the box office traction of Warner Bros. Suicide Squad. In its fifth day at the box office, the David Ayer DC villain movie took in $14.27M, up 9% from Monday. Of course, that’s a record Tuesday in August, and as we’ve seen all along, Suicide Squad keeps whomping Disney/Marvel’s Guardians of the Galaxy records. That film previously owned the Tuesday high for August with $11.9M. But here’s what Suicide Squad‘s till yesterday outflanks when it comes to Tuesday highs: Captain America: Civil War‘s at $13.76M, Avengers: Age of Ultron‘s $13.1M and Batman v. Superman‘s $12.7M Tuesday.

'Suicide Squad' Secures Record Monday Haul For August, Eyes $51M-$54M In 2nd Weekend - B.O...

Through five days, Suicide Squad has collected $161.1M. It will rule again in its second weekend with $51M-$54M as three wide entries enter the market — Sony/Annapurna’s Sausage Party, Disney’s Pete’s Dragon and Paramount’s Florence Foster Jenkins.

Fam my theater was Packed for the 1030 showing on a Tuesday and sold out at 730p ON A TUESDAY....never seen this before not with any Marvel film besides IM1 and Avengers.

 

[ilike turtles]

All these references to Robin I'm sure theres gonna be a flashback of how he got killed in the Batman solo flick. Cant wait

 

[dhart48]

so is this DCs new gimmick? release subpar movies in theaters and then release extended cuts on bluray

#1 reason why I haven't seen it yet

 

[krazyrodzilla]

Fam my theater was Packed for the 1030 showing on a Tuesday and sold out at 730p ON A TUESDAY....never seen this before not with any Marvel film besides IM1 and Avengers.

Sure it being actual SUMMER TIME helps some. However, hope it holds up well enough to make its money back.

 

[pmatic]

All these references to Robin I'm sure theres gonna be a flashback of how he got killed in the Batman solo flick. Cant wait

For the love of God, no more flashbacks.

 

[law3001]

What comic book movie doesn't have flashbacks?

 

[ilike turtles]

For the love of God, no more flashbacks.

I hear you. But thats one flashback I wouldn't mind

 

[Master Zik]

She couldn't even do a full review. Had to turn it into a semi-intervention for the DCEU where she just gave up cuz it's all bad.

Honestly who gives a **** about what these YouTube people say?

I dunno ppl who enjoy their vids?

Doesn't matter if you care or not

Swear I saw her thumb all over the screen at one point.

at dude who said Enchantress dancing was sexy. That dance was atrocious. This movie is only good if you don't care what DC puts out or watch on some sort of mind altering substance. I still have a hard time believing Ayer can stand by this movie.

That would be me. Address me by my name noob

You ain't getting paid to judge an Oscar contender so stop trying too hard to be negative

Ain't gotta be high to enjoy this movie just gotta watch it without a stick up the butt

You still on this tired this movie isn't an Oscar contender so it doesn't deserve criticism rhetoric.

Sorry but it's not catching on

 

[pmatic]

‘Aquaman’ Villain Revealed (Exclusive)

When Jason Momoa suits up as “Aquaman” for his standalone film, he will face off against one of the seafaring superhero’s greatest foes.

TheWrap has exclusively learned the bad guy of the movie will be Aquaman’s deadliest and most-famous opponent — Black Manta. “Aquaman” diehards should go nuts for the film’s adherence to DC lore — “Aquaman” first introduced the villain in 1967. In DC’s “New 52” reboot, Black Manta is a man in a suit with no innate super powers.

Warner Bros. had no immediate comment.

Black Manta (pictured above) has had several distinct origin stories over the years. In the latest version, Aquaman killed his father in retaliation for a murder committed by the young Black Manta. So begins Black Manta’s quest for revenge.

The character has spent some time in Belle Reve prison, during which Amanda Waller tried to get him to join Suicide Squad. Interestingly, fans floated a now-disproven rumor last year that Common would play Black Manta in “Suicide Squad.”

Jason Momoa will next be seen as “Aquaman” in 2017’s “Justice League” along with fellow Atlanteans Mera (Amber Heard) and Vulko (Willem Dafoe). “Gangster Squad” screenwriter Will Beal is writing the screenplay based off a treament by Geoff Johns and James Wan. Wan is directing the “Aquaman” film, which is slated for release on July 27th, 2018.

http://www.thewrap.com/aquaman-villain-revealed-exclusive/

 

[rfx45]

*queue* Idris Elba for Black Manta?

 

[slighted]

*queue* Idris Elba for Black Manta?

Already approved by NT fam

So long as he doesn't die / will be a part of the larger universe down the line

 

[Master Zik]

David Ayer Says There Are Multiple Cuts Of SUICIDE SQUAD; Confirms Joker/Robin/Batman Fan-Theory

First off, The Suicide Squad director confirms that there are indeed "six or seven" versions (no R-rated one, however) of what he describes as his “anarchic punk rock art movie”. Apparently the version that made it into theaters is known as the "Dossier Cut" because it dispenses with showing us how the members of Task Force X arrived at Belle Reve, and instead has Amanda Waller presenting the backstories and origins through a series of montages.

Perhaps more interestingly, Ayer confirms a popular fan theory about how Jared Leto's Joker came by that shiny grill of his, and reveals that his divisive "damaged" tattoo is also connected to it.

"This is sort of my personal thing and maybe less about a larger connection. But Joker killed Robin and Batman basically smashes his teeth out and locks him up in Arkham Asylum. It’s in the asylum where Joker would have done the ‘damaged’ tattoo as a message to Batman saying, 'You’ve damaged me. I was so beautiful before and now you’ve destroyed my face.' That’s where the grill comes from."

Did not know there was another Robin/Joker/Batman theory about his teeth being knocked out.

Sounds closer and closer to a different longer cut being confirmed. Otherwise I see no point in letting ppl know you possibly filmed a better version.

so is this DCs new gimmick? release subpar movies in theaters and then release extended cuts on bluray

#1 reason why I haven't seen it yet

I learned my lesson.

What comic book movie doesn't have flashbacks?

Is this a thing?

Avengers had flashbacks? AOU? Must've been minor or I'm completely blanking.

 

[jays25]

‘Aquaman’ Villain Revealed (Exclusive)

When Jason Momoa suits up as “Aquaman” for his standalone film, he will face off against one of the seafaring superhero’s greatest foes.

TheWrap has exclusively learned the bad guy of the movie will be Aquaman’s deadliest and most-famous opponent — Black Manta. “Aquaman” diehards should go nuts for the film’s adherence to DC lore — “Aquaman” first introduced the villain in 1967. In DC’s “New 52” reboot, Black Manta is a man in a suit with no innate super powers.

Warner Bros. had no immediate comment.

Black Manta (pictured above) has had several distinct origin stories over the years. In the latest version, Aquaman killed his father in retaliation for a murder committed by the young Black Manta. So begins Black Manta’s quest for revenge.

The character has spent some time in Belle Reve prison, during which Amanda Waller tried to get him to join Suicide Squad. Interestingly, fans floated a now-disproven rumor last year that Common would play Black Manta in “Suicide Squad.”

Jason Momoa will next be seen as “Aquaman” in 2017’s “Justice League” along with fellow Atlanteans Mera (Amber Heard) and Vulko (Willem Dafoe). “Gangster Squad” screenwriter Will Beal is writing the screenplay based off a treament by Geoff Johns and James Wan. Wan is directing the “Aquaman” film, which is slated for release on July 27th, 2018.

http://www.thewrap.com/aquaman-villain-revealed-exclusive/

Cool. Not really many other villains that they could have chosen anyways. If Aquaman's film does well enough and gets a sequel I wouldn't mind seeing his evil alternate universe self Thanatos. Though I suspect they'd go with Ocean Master.

 

[Master Zik]

*queue* Idris Elba for Black Manta?

Already approved by NT fam

So long as he doesn't die / will be a part of the larger universe down the line

You think he wants to?

And as a villain?

Idris deserves and is worthy of more.

 

[jaypesoz]

*queue* Idris Elba Michael B. Jordan for Black Manta?

No one cares he'll be in BP