NBA Is riddled with BLACK men who are headed to nowhere pretty quick before their 35th birthday, a degree shouldnt be looked upon with disdain...the same way you need an MBA to work for Goldman Sachs, I cannot see why there is not a requirement for a league which holds maximum 350 players. There has to be some type of qualifications for an elite group of athletes.
David Stern rips the NCAA
- Thread in 'Sports & Training' Thread starter Started by duba169,
- Start date
- 2,429
- 23
- Joined
- Oct 28, 2011
The qualification is that you are at least 1 yr removed and good enough, which is decided by the GMs and personnel tasked with evaluating and signing talent. Requiring them to earn a degree would just be a huge waste of time as it has no relevance to the on court product which is most important for the NBA, in fact would have a negative impact since if you are the NBA you'd rather have them from 20 til they retire than to get them around 23 and have them at least 3 less years. It's not like anybody believes they are going to class and earning grades anyways.
- 36,781
- 11,719
- Joined
- Aug 2, 2008
There is.. Have talent... The worst NBA player could shred anyone in this thread easily. That is the qualification for an elite group of athletes.. To have talent in the sport you play.
What degree could possibly prepare a college student for the NBA? Quantum Physics? Math Major? An MBA for Goldman Sachs makes actual sense.. Any degree to play in the NBA doesn't
And so what most NBA players play 5-6 years.. What if that guy who makes $3mil total in his NBA career, decided I don't want to go one and done and plays his Soph. year and blows out his knee..Can't enter the draft now. Ok plays his Jr. and his knee blows out again.. No what? Chances are he won't be in the NBA.. And if he made $3mil in the NBA, and it doesn't lead to a long career, he can go back to school if he damn well pleases..
There is no disdain to the degree.. The question is.. "WHAT THE HELL DOES IT MATTER" Get a degree, don't get a degree.. DRose is dumb as a box of rocks. Was one and done... The guy will end up making close to $500 mil when his career is all said and done. ($250mil from Adidas, barring injury that cut short his career $100-150mil, maybe even $200 mil) Then add in any other endorsements.. He hovers around $500mil.. What difference does the degree make?
For most people basketball is all they know. And if not for basketball they couldn't attend $40K a year schools like UNC, Duke, or Cuse. Basketball is what got them there. If they want to capitalize on what they know, so be it. That is their adapting to the world.
And the degree requirement will ruin the life of some kid who was talented enough to play a 10 year career in the NBA, but didn't because his career was done by injuries in college..
Those extra years are a HUGE financial risk..
Millions in the NBA, and having the ability to go back to school if I need to >
Greg Oden.. Made $23million in the NBA.. One and done.. You mean to tell me if he played 4 years, he wouldn't have fallen apart? It is hypothetical, but look at how his NBA career went, and imagine if he tried 4 years in college.. Dude would have never been drafted (and if he was he'd be the Mr. Irrelevant pick), would not be a multi-millionaire, and his degree would still mean nothing.. His career is pretty much done.. But guess what he can go back to school if he wants or retire..
David Stern wants to !%#!* and complain about everything wrong with basketball, but never holds himself accountable. He's been the commissioner for 30 years, at some point he has to accept some blame for something.
- 11,980
- 18
- Joined
- Feb 21, 2005
The truth lies somewhere in the middle as usual but I largely agree with Stern. The NCAA is the biggest joke in sports right now.
I mean, I like Caliparri and I have no problem with what he does but its a joke. All those guys are going to leave this year and if he brings in Nerlens and Shabazz, it will be the same thing again next year.
To be frank, college sports as a whole should be abolished. You don't see Europe make its athletes go through the charade of being students. All those kids should be profiting from what they do instead of pretending that some kid who at best maybe reads at a 9th grade level is equipped to juggle sports and academia.
Unfortuantely, college sports, especially college football is only growing. College Football, especially the SEC, is the tea party of athletics in this country, its a total embarrassment in my opinion. What does it say when the top paid public official in a state is a football coach? Aren't universities supposed to be places of academia not vessels for white/southern pride? Like if someone says "I go to LSU," 95% of peoples first reaction would be "LSU tigers are a great team." That is not a good thing. It's a distortion of priorities in this country. Half the poor, depraved fools who are diehard 'Bama/Auburn etc. prolly don't even have a high school education but a football's team success justifies their "the south will rise again mentality," while they wallow in the poorest +*+++*@ states in the nation.
While Stern is certainly not the one to point it out after his performance over the past couple years, the NCAA is a joke that will be gone sooner than we know it.
I mean, I like Caliparri and I have no problem with what he does but its a joke. All those guys are going to leave this year and if he brings in Nerlens and Shabazz, it will be the same thing again next year.
To be frank, college sports as a whole should be abolished. You don't see Europe make its athletes go through the charade of being students. All those kids should be profiting from what they do instead of pretending that some kid who at best maybe reads at a 9th grade level is equipped to juggle sports and academia.
Unfortuantely, college sports, especially college football is only growing. College Football, especially the SEC, is the tea party of athletics in this country, its a total embarrassment in my opinion. What does it say when the top paid public official in a state is a football coach? Aren't universities supposed to be places of academia not vessels for white/southern pride? Like if someone says "I go to LSU," 95% of peoples first reaction would be "LSU tigers are a great team." That is not a good thing. It's a distortion of priorities in this country. Half the poor, depraved fools who are diehard 'Bama/Auburn etc. prolly don't even have a high school education but a football's team success justifies their "the south will rise again mentality," while they wallow in the poorest +*+++*@ states in the nation.
While Stern is certainly not the one to point it out after his performance over the past couple years, the NCAA is a joke that will be gone sooner than we know it.
mmg
Banned
- 8,261
- 842
- Joined
- Feb 1, 2012
where the hell is NCAA gonna go homie? what other routes are avail for players? ill wait.
- 29,630
- 1,862
- Joined
- Nov 4, 2003
Youth development leagues probably
- 3,805
- 98
- Joined
- Sep 26, 2000
Apply the MLB rules to the NCAA and be done w/ it.
If you go to school you stay at least 3 years.
OR you can just go straight to the League of the NBDL.
They should've fixed this in the new CBA.
If you go to school you stay at least 3 years.
OR you can just go straight to the League of the NBDL.
They should've fixed this in the new CBA.
- 12,264
- 51
- Joined
- Aug 8, 2007
Truth is there are always going to be 18 year olds who are ready, just not very many.
- 20,246
- 10,109
- Joined
- Jul 29, 2001
Nobody is forcing anyone to go to school though. You can go overseas. And if the NBA makes it two years, you'll see more players go to Europe for at least one of those two years, if not both. Stern said nothing wrong in regards to this. Basketball players have options. Just because the traditional route is college basketball, doesn't make it the only route, unlike football.Originally Posted by DaComeUP
Exactly. How does he try to blame the NCAA when he's the one that is forcing these kids that have no interest in college to have to waste that year in school?
- 4,837
- 215
- Joined
- Apr 22, 2010
Well then the NCAA shouldn't revoke their "amateur" status if they choose to go to the league. If you don't get drafted, they should be allowed to come back to school or allow them to attend school if they do not get chosen.
- 29,630
- 1,862
- Joined
- Nov 4, 2003
You think you are gonna be a first pick if you go overseas?
Jennings stock dropped overseas
Jennings stock dropped overseas
- 11,773
- 70
- Joined
- Jul 15, 2006
If you go into the draft and dont hire an agent, and also dont get drafted, you can go back to school. When your eligibilty is up, you're automatically a free agent. randolp morrris did that like 3 years ago. Just a thought.
- 3,500
- 463
- Joined
- Jul 13, 2004
Edit just realize its been talked about in this thread already
I dunno, how about a degree in BASKETBALL, learn your craft, get in the tournament, learn the fundamentals,learn how to lose, make FREETHROWS,Kevin Durant is ahead of Lebron as a clutch performer all because of ONE year in college, if it doesn't work out, you might be a coach one day, plenty of former players are now coaches who went to college at LEAST through their junior years (Doc,Scott Brooks, Doug Collins?) Can you name a player drafted in the last 10 years who can be a coach? 'They are all morons and instead of basketball players they wanna be famous people who happen to play basketball, think who wins championships, it's not young boys, it's veteran TEAMS (Lakers,Spurs,Celtics....etc.) Do you think college has nothing to do with Tim Duncan being the best Power Forward of all time?Im not even 30 but can remember when Kevin Garnett coming out was a BIG DEAL, What happened in the last 15 years where staying in school is a "bad investment"?
- 601
- 11
- Joined
- Jun 23, 2008
I agree w/ most of this, these top recruits should be getting paid, instead of this student-athlete nonsense.
- 25,831
- 15,061
- Joined
- Jul 30, 2011
So Florida guard Erving Walker got arrested for stealing a taco from a street vendor. Link to story from ESPN here. I mean seriously?!? Dude didn't have enough dough to pay for the taco? I'm not sure of all the details obviously but somethings gotta be done to at least let these kids pocket money.
- 36,781
- 11,719
- Joined
- Aug 2, 2008
They should be compensated at part time wages at least... So anywhere between $100-$200 a week (which is the medium to high end hours of part time work, at least it is here in Upstate NY) while season activities are going on..
- 25,831
- 15,061
- Joined
- Jul 30, 2011
I agree. I know the issue of Pell grants has been raised. If qualified, I think it pays up to $5500 annually. Does anyone know why more college atheletes specifically in football & basketball aren't taking advantage of this grant?
- 44,181
- 2,513
- Joined
- Jun 17, 2006
The main thing about the one & done rule/High school rule is that, you don't know the problems and situations these young men and women have back home.
They should have the right to enter the NBA/WNBA straight out of high school or after their Freshman year at their school.
They should have the right to enter the NBA/WNBA straight out of high school or after their Freshman year at their school.
Most problems that these young men and women have at home has todo with poverty, throwing money at a problem never solves it' just cleans it up temporarily, EDUCATING yourself makes you avoid similar problems in the future, btw there are way more collegiate sports than basketball and football being played, how come I never hear of Lacrosse, tennis or even baseball players talking about getting paid?
dacomeup
Supporter
- 26,022
- 36,387
- Joined
- Jan 20, 2006
Huh? Those sports are big revenue generating sports for the universities, and also the kids in sports like Lacrosse and Tennis, and even baseball in some cases come from very different backgrounds than a lot of basketball and football players.
- 1,106
- 39
- Joined
- Jan 31, 2005
By that logic, guys like Mario Chalmers, Carmelo Anthony, Corey Brewer, Mike Conley should be some of the best players in the league given their college success. Shaq, Griffin, and a bunch of other poor free throw shooters have gone to college, but never learned how to shoot free throws. Cousins went to college and had a decent first year, but can't play defense any better than someone like Garnett or Tyson Chandler. It really depends on the individual player if they want to improve or not. Wouldn't they be able to improve even more in the NBA with the best coaches and trainers and facilities? Some players are just lazy while others are going to work hard regardless of where they train.
- 6,996
- 127
- Joined
- Jun 10, 2004
- 337
- 10
- Joined
- Apr 14, 2006
tl;dr....EFF DAVID STERN!!!
yk12
Banned
- 454
- 12
- Joined
- Mar 3, 2012
i dont like david stern...i just dont like him!!
