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The training montage with the dirt bikes had me feeling like I could even hop in the ring
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The training montage with the dirt bikes had me feeling like I could even hop in the ring
The training montage with the dirt bikes had me feeling like I could even hop in the ring
i sprinted home from the movie theatre yelling at random cars on the street lmao
Felt the same way when this came onDirt bike scene
Had me hype in my seat ready to throw a punch through my popcorn cup
I've seen all of the classic Rocky movies (I-IV) at least 10 times each growing up. I just saw Creed this past Saturday and couldn't wait to get out of the theater. His character lacked grit, passion, charisma, or something else I can't quite place my finger on. I also wasn't buying him training himself by fighting in juvi, fighting in Mexico, then barely having any formidable training and doing so well in two big fights. There were some cool nods to the old movies but overall this film felt very flat to me. I actually fell asleep in the theater at one point.
I've seen all of the classic Rocky movies (I-IV) at least 10 times each growing up. I just saw Creed this past Saturday and couldn't wait to get out of the theater. His character lacked grit, passion, charisma, or something else I can't quite place my finger on. I also wasn't buying him training himself by fighting in juvi, fighting in Mexico, then barely having any formidable training and doing so well in two big fights. There were some cool nods to the old movies but overall this film felt very flat to me. I actually fell asleep in the theater at one point.
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I respect this opinion. 1976 is really tough to compete with. I don't think anyone is saying Creed was or is capable of replicating it. Creed was just a really solid three star movie and Rocky is a classic four star movie. I thought Creed did a really good job of modernizing the series, which again is why I find it hard to compare to the original Rocky.Now Creed… Started off with nothing in group homes getting in fights all the time…(ok. we get it, we get it). But then, Creed’s wife takes him in as her own, he lives in a big *** house w/ a loving mother his whole life (even if she was a step mom she still loved him), he gets educated, gets a great job in finance, nice car. Quits his job, decides to live in a crappy apartment, shows up in all new gear and kicks every day looking for a real Philly trainer. Why? For what? Because he wanted to box? Ok. Well if it didn’t work out for him, he could go right back to the cushy life he had before. No wonder no one wanted to train him with his pseudo struggles. To make things worse, Rocky starts training him only after a brief conversation and Rocky was wayyy too nice to him. I mean Rocky is just a nice guy so that was in character, but, Mick used to give Rocky hell! Johnson was trying so hard to make his own name then ended up taking the Creed name back just so he could skip all of the hard work he was about to put in, that all the other boxers have to put in, so he could be on a big stage in a high profile fight. I do not believe that with his background and a little training from Rocky he had the skills to go against who he did. Just wasn't believable and he just didn’t seem genuine to me and his acting wasn’t great IMO. Seemed like an angry kid who forced struggle upon himself so he could feel better about himself. I can see the one redeeming aspect where, yes, boxing was the only thing he could do ON HIS OWN to prove to HIMSELF he was something. But this is only because he got everything else in life on a silver spoon after he made it out the foster homes.
The girl, was mad cute and I liked how they gave her the character flaw of going deaf eventually. But even she couldn't hold a candle to the character Adrian was. And the whole dynamic between Adrian, Rocky, and Pauly. It felt real. Not like some self-induced struggle story.
He got everything except for a father. He says in the fight he wanted to prove he wasn't a mistake. All those material things but he didn't have any blood around him.
I think that perspective is very relatable
Now Creed… Started off with nothing in group homes getting in fights all the time…(ok. we get it, we get it). But then, Creed’s wife takes him in as her own, he lives in a big *** house w/ a loving mother his whole life (even if she was a step mom she still loved him), he gets educated, gets a great job in finance, nice car. Quits his job, decides to live in a crappy apartment, shows up in all new gear and kicks every day looking for a real Philly trainer. Why? For what? Because he wanted to box? Ok. Well if it didn’t work out for him, he could go right back to the cushy life he had before. No wonder no one wanted to train him with his pseudo struggles. To make things worse, Rocky starts training him only after a brief conversation and Rocky was wayyy too nice to him. I mean Rocky is just a nice guy so that was in character, but, Mick used to give Rocky hell! Johnson was trying so hard to make his own name then ended up taking the Creed name back just so he could skip all of the hard work he was about to put in, that all the other boxers have to put in, so he could be on a big stage in a high profile fight. I do not believe that with his background and a little training from Rocky he had the skills to go against who he did. Just wasn't believable and he just didn’t seem genuine to me and his acting wasn’t great IMO. Seemed like an angry kid who forced struggle upon himself so he could feel better about himself. I can see the one redeeming aspect where, yes, boxing was the only thing he could do ON HIS OWN to prove to HIMSELF he was something. But this is only because he got everything else in life on a silver spoon after he made it out the foster homes.
The girl, was mad cute and I liked how they gave her the character flaw of going deaf eventually. But even she couldn't hold a candle to the character Adrian was. And the whole dynamic between Adrian, Rocky, and Pauly. It felt real. Not like some self-induced struggle story.
I respect this opinion. 1976 is really tough to compete with. I don't think anyone is saying Creed was or is capable of replicating it. Creed was just a really solid three star movie and Rocky is a classic four star movie. I thought Creed did a really good job of modernizing the series, which again is why I find it hard to compare to the original Rocky.
I agree with unlikelihood of a club fighter jumping in the ring with a P4P king, but that can be argued against both the original Rocky and Creed and pretty much every other boxing movie. Rocky wasn't exactly a seasoned vet himself though. The only other fight we witnessed was in a hall against Spider Rico.
Creed was more about redeeming the past and creating your own legacy/identity than it was a "rags to riches" Rocky theme, so I think everything you said about him ditching his comfortable lifestyle is a little moot. He was trying to get rid of the abandoned, bastard child label. At the same time, Rocky filled Apollo's void while Adonis filled Robert's void. By taking his dad's Creed name back at the end, it was symbolic of him letting go of all the hate he had towards Apollo which was one of his main personal dilemmas.
He got everything except for a father. He says in the fight he wanted to prove he wasn't a mistake. All those material things but he didn't have any blood around him.
I think that perspective is very relatable