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Yeah, the owner said since the beginning he didn't want it changed and I don't see him backing down now. He's already hired fake native Americans to back him up
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Just curious, why all the outrage just now?
White people always need to be offended on behalf of some minority group, basically. Changing the name ain't gonna solve anything other than let some people feel better about themselves. A pro sports team being called [insertnamehere] ranks near the bottom of the list of problems in the Native American community. It just happens to also be the easiest and most satisfying problem to solve, though (America likes to work small to big, rather than big to small).
And don't interpret that as me saying it's not offensive/derogatory/whatever, because it is. But, honestly, what tangible effect will changing the name have? Ultimately, nothing.
I mean America genocided their ancestors and turned their history into cartoon mascots, you dont expect them to feel some type of way about it?
Seriously?
Makes sense. I've was just curious to why all of a sudden people have come forward to be against it. But like you said, one day it was bound to happen. Skins are inevitably going to change their name. Most likely something lame like the wizards did from the bullets.
I mean America genocided their ancestors and turned their history into cartoon mascots, you dont expect them to feel some type of way about it?
Seriously?
I thought the wizards name change was so worthless....
I thought the wizards name change was so worthless....
how is it offensive. if anything its hyping them up like they bad ***. don't agree. yeah its this ppl are changing and are sensitive. the worlds gone soft. I hope it doesn't change.
Are you a real person?south park family guy episodes. censorship etc etc . that's how I think.Wow, in your world there would be little change. Luckily we as a society don't simply go by majority rule
whats going to be next that someone gets offended that they are going to have to change. this world is super sensitive now . u prove my point. ill say no more.
Quick question. Is it a FACT that this word originated and was initially used as a racial slur? Its just I never heard anyone in real life refer to a Native Americans with that name and I lived right next to the Miccosukee tribe in Miami for 6 years. Sometimes I just think people (not native americans) are making it a bigger deal than it is. But hey if there are a couple Native Americans upset by it then change it. I've just never met any that have cared.
Why don't you just answer the question? I'm not the only one who doesn't understand. *******....nothing about it sounds like a slur. If we are all so simple minded, explain it. Don't just throw your opinion and run.
THIS, when it's put in this scope and comparison I'm lost how anyone could not see a problem.You don't understand how the term "*******" can be offensive? Really, gee, let's see. Is their skin red? It's as ignorant as if someone started a team named "Yellowskins" and put an Asian on the helmet. What about the Brownskins, and put a (insert a Latino nationality here) on it. How about "Blackskins" and put a black dude on it. As a matter of fact, go up to a black dude, an Asian dude, and a Latino that you don't know tomorrow, and call them those names and report back.
God, how ignorant can some people be? Also, let me ask you a question, what ethnicity are you?
agreed but you gotta understand that there are some shucking and jiving black folks that existAny black person supporting this name is ******* shameful.
100% Truth.It's an offensive word to a specific group of people. Why does anybody feel the need to question that?
Its just I never heard anyone in real life refer to a Native Americans with that name and I lived right next to the Miccosukee tribe in Miami for 6 years. .
You don't understand how the term "*******" can be offensive? Really, gee, let's see. Is their skin red? It's as ignorant as if someone started a team named "Yellowskins" and put an Asian on the helmet. What about the Brownskins, and put a (insert a Latino nationality here) on it. How about "Blackskins" and put a black dude on it. As a matter of fact, go up to a black dude, an Asian dude, and a Latino that you don't know tomorrow, and call them those names and report back.
God, how ignorant can some people be? Also, let me ask you a question, what ethnicity are you?
THIS IS A GOOD THING...
Some of you people can't be serious with things being said in here. Because you don't find it offensive doesn't mean it's okay.
Below you will find what I wrote in the Diplomats thread and the NFL thread. The part in quotations will give you your explanation. It is from a Native American book that I read that I can't remember off hand, but I will try to locate the name of the book for you.This ******* thing is new to me and since I have only associated "********" with a football team, I don't get how its a slur.
Just me though...
Below you will find what I wrote in the Diplomats thread and the NFL thread. The part in quotations will give you your explanation. It is from a Native American book that I read that I can't remember off hand, but I will try to locate the name of the book for you.
as I understand it the name ******* was created by Native Americans, particularly during battle times.............
"So in conclusion just to let everyone know, the origin of the name "*******" was created and used by Native Americans but then Europeans and Americans later on began to use the name "*******" as a derogatory term against Native Americans. That is where the mix up comes into play. Meaning that the word has negative or disparaging connotations as used by some currently"
Are you serious champ?? If you have to ask that then I would have to give you a history lesson on RACISM in this country. Basically that team being "allowed" to use that name was just another way for the dominant society to take advantage of Native Americans in this country, without any repercussions. The Native Americans had no say so in the determination of the team name and had no way of truly trying to stop the name from being carried out at the time.That's all I needed right there. It was a term native americans came up with but Europeans started to use the term neagtively.Below you will find what I wrote in the Diplomats thread and the NFL thread. The part in quotations will give you your explanation. It is from a Native American book that I read that I can't remember off hand, but I will try to locate the name of the book for you.
as I understand it the name ******* was created by Native Americans, particularly during battle times.............
"So in conclusion just to let everyone know, the origin of the name "*******" was created and used by Native Americans but then Europeans and Americans later on began to use the name "*******" as a derogatory term against Native Americans. That is where the mix up comes into play. Meaning that the word has negative or disparaging connotations as used by some currently"
Now why was the team allowed to use the name to start? Just seems like this could have been avoided. I'm going to look into the teams history see if I can come up with something.