Court expected to uphold TikTok Ban SMH

[Beruseruku Desu]

Why so quick to label others as plants that dont agree with you? This is a complex issue so whataboutisms are definitely relevant because they provide necessary context. If the U.S. government frames the TikTok ban as a national security measure, it’s fair to ask why similar actions aren’t taken against other companies with questionable data practices? Thats in the same ballpark, you can remove Tik Tok and plug in Meta and it's the same issue.

Someone already explained that China and other Asian countries have their own social media platforms that are equivalent to ours. If they want to use the ones you mentioned, some use VPNs as its legal that way. But then again, it's equivalent to us making an account on one of their sites so unless you are in tune with their culture, or have family or friends over there it's really pointless and vice versa with them and our social media sites. I don't think anyone in here is mad they don't get to use the app, but if the many points that have been brought up is not getting across, then carry on.

Its because he has no real grasp on how much further this case goes than just data collection. His narrow mind just sees Data collection = BAD!

It could possibly violate the first amendment and the fifth amendment. Even the Supreme court states that the reason why congress is worried about data collection is because China can manipulate the content of what americans are seeing. they then state if its the content, then it touches on the first amendment and could possibly be violating the first amendment.

the funniest thing is tiktok is trying to protect the freedom of speech for americans yet people in here want the exact opposite lol.

 

[nomadicsole21]

This dude gotta be Chinese lol

Bro what? What does him being Chinese or not have anything to do with this?

If our top lawmakers and gov. officials can't differentiate a Chinese Singaporean from mainland CCP Chinese, the average American has no chance. We all look alike and come from the same place and believe the same thing .

Thanks for proving my point.

 

[putting in work]

Its because he has no real grasp on how much further this case goes than just data collection. His narrow mind just sees Data collection = BAD!

It could possibly violate the first amendment and the fifth amendment. Even the Supreme court states that the reason why congress is worried about data collection is because China can manipulate the content of what americans are seeing. they then state if its the content, then it touches on the first amendment and could possibly be violating the first amendment.

the funniest thing is tiktok is trying to protect the freedom of speech for americans yet people in here want the exact opposite lol.

Yeah and with the Supreme Court being a joke and just a Trump and Republican sided court setup they don't mind the content being manipulated in their favor such as Elon buying Twitter or Zuck now going Maga with Facebook.

 

[Belgium]

VPNs are about to eat good if this ban actually goes through.
I think the ban is reasonable in principle but llegally I don't see how it doesn't infringe on the 1st amendment.

 

[Belgium]

Temu and SHEIN aren’t owned by the Chinese government though.

And to your point about as to why didn’t NSA or the FBI do TikTok - let me ask you this question - if they did, do you think China would allow that app in their country? Or do you think China would ban it? Remember - China has banned Facebook since 2009. They don’t have Google, Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, etc.

Again, the internet is a big place. You can find plenty of places to watch vids of little girls dancing. Go find some other app or site to be horny for.

It doesn’t matter if Temu and SHEIN aren’t owned by the CCP.
China’s National Security Intelligence law (NSIL) allows the CCP to exercise a broad level of control over any Chinese company. The companies can not legally refuse demands by the CCP involving NSIL matters such as user data, intelligence and counterintelligence operations, …
They can try to challenge such orders but good luck with that lol.

This is not something the Chinese companies must do on their own but if China wants any Chinese company to basically act as an extension of the state’s intelligence services, the companies must comply.

User data sharing is arguably the least concerning part, at least in my view. The bigger issues are the compulsory assistance with intelligence operations, though user data can obviously be helpful there to make the intel operations more effective in terms of precise targeting and developing strategies for various groups of users.

 

[jape]

you cannot block the freedom of speech in order to protect the freedom of speech.

I’m confused. Banning tik tok doesn’t block freedom of speech.

 

[sonoftony]

I’m confused. Banning tik tok doesn’t block freedom of speech.

It is but, It's only freedom of speech until they disagree with it.

 

[tr1ll]

I'd be funny if someone in the White House was invested in VPNs.

 

[aepps20]

I have a feeling that the Supreme Court will uphold the ban and Trump just won’t enforce it.

 

[WASHED KING]

I'm glad it's getting banned.

As a whole Tik Tok is a net negative.

 

[picasso swerve]

Thread is wild, just use IG.

 

[Beruseruku Desu]

 

[boxer15]

The need to vent about Tik Tok as a fellow grown man would suggest a social media break is probably a good idea.

 

[victortheguru]

Good riddance, yall better hop on youtube shorts or IG lmao

 

[tr1ll]

Good riddance, yall better hop on youtube shorts or IG lmao

Post to avy ratio is too good.

 

[Beruseruku Desu]

 

[aepps20]

Good riddance, yall better hop on youtube shorts or IG lmao

Cooking with Kiya and da buss it Challenge were strong on that platform as well

 

[daruma]

 

[Beruseruku Desu]

It’s actually crazy that rednote is already the #1 app in the US already.

No one likes mark zuck. Meta lobbied to get TikTok banned.

 

[jape]

 

[1995]

Guys there's good stuff on reels too

 

[nomadicsole21]

Rednote is WILD. All the Gen Z kids I work with already hopping on and getting DuoLingo to learn Mandarin Chinese

 

[QU!K]

What could china do with this information? Genuinely curious

AI emotion-detection software tested on Uyghurs

A software engineer tells BBC's Panorama about installing the system in police stations in Xinjiang.

www.bbc.com

 

[QU!K]

I just remember I had a whole thread about Tik Tok why was it deleted Methodical Management ?

 

[gry60]

That's a wild statement

Do people even realize that China has been filtering internet content from abroad since 2000? What guarantee do you have that you're talking to a random Chinese citizen?

If I'm the CCP, I would just start pushing the idea that the Chinese firewall is a US made conspiracy theory and that facebook, instagram, and twitter are not really banned there.

Wild to see what happens when you skimp on teaching the US youth how to think and parse information...

Edit:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/7521/text

It's also a useless move because the law in question bans any app controlled by a foreign entity, not just Tiktok.

FOREIGN ADVERSARY CONTROLLED APPLICATION.—The term “foreign adversary controlled application” means a website, desktop application, mobile application, or augmented or immersive technology application that is operated, directly or indirectly (including through a parent company, subsidiary, or affiliate), by—

(A) any of—

(i) ByteDance, Ltd.;
(ii) TikTok;
(iii) a subsidiary of or a successor to an entity identified in clause (i) or (ii) that is controlled by a foreign adversary; or
(iv) an entity owned or controlled, directly or indirectly, by an entity identified in clause (i), (ii), or (iii); or
(B) a covered company that—

(i) is controlled by a foreign adversary; and
(ii) that is determined by the President to present a significant threat to the national security of the United States following the issuance of—

(I) a public notice proposing such determination; and
(II) a public report to Congress, submitted not less than 30 days before such determination, describing the specific national security concern involved and containing a classified annex and a description of what assets would need to be divested to execute a qualified divestiture.