Could there be a Honda S3000?

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A typhoon of rumors has been swirling around Honda's headquarters in Tokyo, Japan, about the company's next generation of sports cars. While we havealready seen spy photos of the future NSX, we have not seen anything about the next-generation S2000. A source close to the company revealed that Honda isindeed in the process of building such a car, but wouldn't disclose specific details.

The OSM (Open Study Model) concept car definitely raised some eyebrows recently at the London show, but that car was just a convertible version of the CR-Zhybrid sports car shown at the Tokyo Motor Show last year. The OSM was penned by Honda's European design team, and our people tell us that the real S2000successor will have much more influence and input from Japan. Also, the CR-Z and OSM have been engineered as front-engine/front-wheel-drive models, and theS2000 successor will no doubt be a rear-wheel-drive car. So apparently the OSM has nothing to do with the S2000 successor. Or does it...?

There's the possibility that the OSM may very well be a design study of the next S2000, wearing the veil of an open-top CR-Z to throw us off. There wasalso a sighting of a mysterious prototype sports car near Honda's R&D headquarters in Japan that seemed to share the OSM's proportions, yet lookedcompletely different. Could this be another design study of the S2000? We think so, so we took pieces of that car, melded it with the OSM and came up with thisimage, a handsome car with an Audi R8-esque face, a long hood and a profile reminiscent of the current S2000.

As for what will go under the hood is still unclear. There have been rumors that Honda may equip the car with a V-6, perhaps a new 3.0-liter or the 3.5-literin the Acura TL, thus the name S3000. In the U.S., this makes sense because it would give the car much more low-end torque (something we Americans love), notto mention improved smoothness and quietness for freeway driving.

With such an engine, you can expect power to be in the 280- to 300-bhp vicinity, enabling a 0-60 run in the sub-5-second range. The more probable choice is a2.2- to 2.5-liter inline-4. Honda, which has traditionally shied away from big-displacement powerplants, may feel that a 4-cylinder engine makes more marketingsense in this age of high gasoline prices. There's also talk of a simple hybrid system.

Only those directly involved with the next-generation S2000 project know for sure what the car will be like. We'll know for sure in 2011, after Hondareleases the NSX and CR-Z.

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That rendition looks good, it will sell well if they keep the overall design. The S2K's body style is timeless, IMO. I don't think anyone could hateits lines.
 
I guess Honda likes to remain unique in that it doesn't like the easy-way-out with forced induction. Besides, aren't the compression ratios too highwith vtecs that forced induction would be hard to do?
 
Originally Posted by JDMEVOIXMR

I guess Honda likes to remain unique in that it doesn't like the easy-way-out with forced induction. Besides, aren't the compression ratios too high with vtecs that forced induction would be hard to do?


I don't look at turbo charging as an easy way out, more like a better way to get torques and hp.
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But yes of they would need to lower the compression if they turboed theirengines which would be very easy for Honda to do all they would need to do woud be put different pistons in that are lower compression. The Vtech systemitself may need to be modified slightly for different timming tuned for the turbo engine again easy for Honda to do.
 
#%#@ is dope. imma have to put my man that loves his s2000 on this and see what he thinks
 
Originally Posted by JDMEVOIXMR

Or they could just drop in a beefed up version of the RDX engine
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Exactly. They give that piece of crap turbo but then all their "performance cars" are just NA. It don't make much sense to me. They need toput that RDX motor in the Civic Si and the Civic type R and the s2000/s3000.
 
Honda's going down in looks, the refreshed Civic looks ugly, I can't stand that grille, especially the anonymous grille on their Pilot and Element.Looks so bland, I think the Explorer looks better.

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and don't even let me get to the TL:
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I like the JDM Civic/Acura CSX style better, but it WOULD be nice if they added SH-AWD to Civics, although they would gain some weight. K20 is still one of thebest engines though. I'm guessing they don't want to change what their image, Honda is known for its high-revving vtecs, the sound of an engine nearits peak, that sounds like a motorbike. But there's nothing wrong for a change, Mitsubishi introduced MIVEC to it's Evo IX, and replaced the 4G63 inthe Evo X with the aluminum 4B11. Nissan replaced the 300ZX's VG30 with the 350Z, which came with the NA, closed deck VQ35
 
I've always been fond of the fact that Honda has kept its performance cars all motor....

It gives us, the consumer the option to choose if we want to go that route....




As far as a turbo CTR goes, if that were to ever happen.....

We'd probably never get it here in the states. A turbo Si though? Hmmm...A K20A3 Turbo....
 
Originally Posted by theyhatinonme

Originally Posted by JDMEVOIXMR

I guess Honda likes to remain unique in that it doesn't like the easy-way-out with forced induction. Besides, aren't the compression ratios too high with vtecs that forced induction would be hard to do?


I don't look at turbo charging as an easy way out, more like a better way to get torques and hp.
wink.gif
But yes of they would need to lower the compression if they turboed their engines which would be very easy for Honda to do all they would need to do woud be put different pistons in that are lower compression. The Vtech system itself may need to be modified slightly for different timming tuned for the turbo engine again easy for Honda to do.

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Originally Posted by I3

Originally Posted by theyhatinonme

Originally Posted by JDMEVOIXMR

I guess Honda likes to remain unique in that it doesn't like the easy-way-out with forced induction. Besides, aren't the compression ratios too high with vtecs that forced induction would be hard to do?


I don't look at turbo charging as an easy way out, more like a better way to get torques and hp.
wink.gif
But yes of they would need to lower the compression if they turboed their engines which would be very easy for Honda to do all they would need to do woud be put different pistons in that are lower compression. The Vtech system itself may need to be modified slightly for different timming tuned for the turbo engine again easy for Honda to do.

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Originally Posted by SneakerHeathen

Originally Posted by I3

Originally Posted by theyhatinonme

Originally Posted by JDMEVOIXMR

I guess Honda likes to remain unique in that it doesn't like the easy-way-out with forced induction. Besides, aren't the compression ratios too high with vtecs that forced induction would be hard to do?


I don't look at turbo charging as an easy way out, more like a better way to get torques and hp.
wink.gif
But yes of they would need to lower the compression if they turboed their engines which would be very easy for Honda to do all they would need to do woud be put different pistons in that are lower compression. The Vtech system itself may need to be modified slightly for different timming tuned for the turbo engine again easy for Honda to do.

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So I forgot the correct spelling, big deal.

On the NA vs turbo thing I would think that the VTEC would allow the motor to still rev just as high with turbo.
 
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i saw this vtec.net .. well..... it would be cool if they added a v6 for more power.. but the way that the s2000 is it is very good in handling andperformance from a 4cyl.. i think that if they added a v6 they would need to add more weight to the over all car to not make it front heavy.. which it wouldloose a lot of its performance.. i think that the s2000 now is a very well balanced and very well built car for a 4cyl.. a turbo would be nice that they havein the RDX right now
 
i still maintain that if honda brought the type-r stateside, i'd trade in the evo x. the mugen rr is a BEAST. at this point though, the u.s. will never getthem
 
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So I forgot the correct spelling, big deal.

On the NA vs turbo thing I would think that the VTEC would allow the motor to still rev just as high with turbo.


I know.. but as a dedicated Honda owner (99 CTR).. I hate it when people spell it incorrectly. I also hate it when STi and EVO owners come in and start sayingthey can beat us in a strait line etc.. its like duhh you've got a turbo.. different class of engine = different result..
 
this came up so many times on the honda forums already...and again it's not even official. since honda likes to go 2 years at a time making changes and 08got the last change and 09 looks the same as 08 we would probably find out this year what will happen to the s2000 line. i would be happy if they continued itanother 2 years into 2011 but what are the chances of having a pretty much the same car in the market for 12 years?

i'm not sure if there would be a "s2000 successor"...it would probably be something different, and unless it is much better than the s2000 i willstill buy a s2000. there is no proof of anything yet so all we can do is wait.
 
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