Congratulations to the 2009 New Orleans Saints....Super Bowl Bound.

Yeah, well he's had him his whole life, so it's not due to football. His career won't end because of that, but if the migraines get worse due tofootball it could at some point.
 
Man Percy has had them his entire life, and constantly had them when he was here at UF. I hope they don't do any long term damage to his brain cause dudeis capable of being a all-time great IMO.
 
[h1]Harvin misses another practice[/h1]
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on January 22, 2010 1:13 PM ET
Percy Harvin's migraine headaches kept him out of a second consecutive day of practice, raising more concerns about his status for Sunday's NFC Championship.

That's the bad news for Vikings fans. The good news is that defensive linemen Kevin Williams (knee) and Ray Edwards (knee) returned to practice, according to Judd Zulgdad of the Minneapolis Star-Tribune.

Edwards was wearing a knee brace. Williams is expected to start. We'll get the full injury report later Friday, but we'd be surprised if Harvin isn't listed as questionable.

Harvin has missed multiple days of practice before with migraine headaches and still played on Sunday. He missed one game this year because of the recurring problem.
 
SMH that Prince song is horrible
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[h1]Shockey questionable after third missed practice[/h1]
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on January 22, 2010 5:58 PM ET
Jeremy Shockey didn't last long in New Orleans' divisional round win and there is some doubt whether he'll play at all in the NFC Championship.

Shockey was one of two Saints listed as questionable Friday. Shockey (knee) and cornerback Malcolm Jenkins (hamstring) didn't practice all week.

A few Saints players told NFL Network they expect Shockey to play, but the Saints aren't likely to burn an active roster spot unless he shows something in pregame warmups.

Wideout Robert Meachem (ankle) and safety Darren Sharper (knee) were limited for a second straight day, and are listed as probable. Center Jonathan Goodwin (knee) and defensive Bobby McCray (back) are also probable, but practiced fully.

[h1]75 percent of Vikings' starting defensive line is questionable[/h1]
Posted by Mike Florio on January 22, 2010 5:30 PM ET
With most of the Minnesota hand-wringing focusing on the availability of Vikings receiver Percy Harvin, a whopping 75 percent of the team's starting defensive line is questionable for Sunday's game.

Defensive tackle Pat Williams now has a foot injury, which caused him to miss practice on Friday.

Defensive tackle Kevin Williams and defensive end Ray Edwards practiced on a limited basis on Friday, after missing practice completely on Wednesday and Thursday.

All three officially are 50-50 to play on Sunday.

Also questionable are cornerback Benny Sapp (ankle, back) and Harvin, who is fighting migraines.

Probable for the game are receiver Bernard Berrian (ankle), guard Steve Hutchinson (shoulder), defensive tackle Jimmy Kennedy (thumb), linebacker Ben Leber (knee), and cornerback Antoine Winfield (foot).

[h1]Ray Edwards on Prince song: "I heard it wasn't that good"[/h1]
Posted by Mike Florio on January 22, 2010 4:56 PM ET
To cap a solid interview on ESPN's Jim Rome Is Burning, Vikings defensive end Ray Edwards was asked about the fight song recently created by Prince.

"I haven't it heard it yet," Edwards said. "But I heard it wasn't that good."

Said host Jim Rome: "He hopes it was only 'wasn't that good.'"

Edwards also said that he's close to being 100 percent after suffering a mild MCL sprain on Sunday against the Cowboys, after bagging three sacks of quarterback Tony Romo.

Hopefully, Edwards won't listen to the Prince song. Hearing it could actually undo all of the gains he has experienced from treatment this week.
 
If Percy doesn't play....I don't know man. I already don't feel very good about this game and that was WITH Harvin.

He is such a vital part of our team (slot/3rd down guy, kick return specialist, reverses, etc.) and I think w/o him we're going to be hurting on the offensive side of the ball despite having numerous other players that are up to the challenge
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Airplane rides are KILLER for migraines. I've been hearing some rumors that the Vikings are going to drive Percy down there, instead of flying. I'm not sure how much truth there is to that though.

I mean, Percy was going to be such a major part of our offense this week, but with migraines, I guarantee the guy hasn't even looked at the gameplan yet. Migraines are the type of stuff that forces you to be in a pitch black room for almost all hours of the day.

I think the Edwards, K.Williams, Sapp, etc. injuries are just smokescreens and/or extremely minor and nothing to worry about.

Figures that as Vikings fans we have the chance to go to our first Super Bowl in 33 years and one of our key playmakers has his migraine issue spark up again.
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^ I explained as to why I felt confident Minnesota would take this game, can I ask you why you don't feel good about this game?
 
I started out feeling confident, but I've seen our team fail too many times...

I'm telling you, no matter how much I love the Vikes. They always find a way to break my heart. After 1998 and 2001 I seriously hated our team. It's like they say, hmm, how can we screw it up this time...

Hoping this time is different.
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It's going to be weird to see our team in the Super Bowl if we win. I seriously will have to try to get to Miami. Might never see them win again if they get there.
 
Well, it's a mixture of things.

-While this may sound stupid, but topping off my list is just the Vikings fan syndrome '98, '01, etc.....we just have a tendency to fizzle under high pressure situations. While I think this team is different, I don't want to get myself too hyped up and feeling good when there's a very realistic chance we could lose this game. While that may sound pessimistic, I think it's just the nature of Vikings fans ever since the 1998 NFC Championship game.

-Brees is very different from Romo. I think Brees will take shots deep at our safeties (something Romo failed to do last week) and we will be exposed. He seems to have a long TD pass to Meachem, Henderson, etc. every, single time I tune into a New Orleans Saints game so with our weak safety play I don't see why that would be different.

-Traditionally, you can cover up safety issues if you get a good pass rush on. It's not an unknown that our front four plays far better at home than on the road. For example, I believe over 3/4 of Jared Allen's sacks have come at home in the Metrodome. Until proven otherwise, can you really assume that they're going to show up on Sunday? Especially with recent reports that Williams is banged up and obviously the Edwards injury in last week's game. I said I thought those were smokescreens and/or minor, but I'm just giving my best take on that as a fan without any personal knowledge obviously. It's all kind of guesswork at this point.

-I've already stated how crucial Percy Harvin is towards us having success on Sunday. If he can't go, that takes away A LOT from what we are capable of doing on the offensive side of the ball. He's our slot/3rd down guy, one of the best kick returners in the league this season, and can even mix it up and run the ball with success every so often when we need a change of pace type of play. It's important for us not to underestimate how important he is to our offense.

-Home field advantage is the biggest factor working in any team's way in this game. All of us Vikings fans/spectators, Vikings personalities in the media, etc. put up a fight against the Cowboy fans and believers last week, saying "Getting that bye and home field advantage was so important" and "We are 8-0 at home this season" and such. It'd be kind of hypocritical to make that such a big selling point when arguing with Cowboy fans and then a week later we turn our backs on the whole concept.

-Crowd noise is another factor that worries me. At the Metrodome the fans are dead quiet when we are on offense which means our offensive line is able to go off the cadence rather than watching the ball move. Being able to go off the cadence is a huge advantage seeing as how it gives you a jump-start on your blocking assignment by being the one to get the first step.

-The Saints being able to stop Adrian Peterson is another thing that makes me wonder if we'll be able to pull it out on Sunday. Last year, they held him to 32 yards on 21 carries. They were 17th in the league last year at stopping the run. This year, they are a little bit worse, but not much worse (21st). Anybody that remembers watching that game last year knows that they had a great gameplan working to stop Adrian Peterson. It was one of the few times he was getting stuffed repeatedly that whole year. I look for them to incorporate into this upcoming game whatever it was that gave them success last year.

...

There's a few other things I'm worried about, such as Reggie Bush's sudden emergence, Darren Sharper's knowledge of the Vikings, etc. but I'm not going to get too in-depth with that stuff.

SMH I feel like I'm acting like "the glass is half-empty" type of fan right now 
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I'm still really confident in the Vikings and what they are capable of doing, but I just can't ignore the observations I've made.
 
The biggest thing that scares me is AP going nuts on us (pause).

smh girl im talking to is gonna watch the game with me and is a "vikings fan" just after she was a diehard chargers fan last week
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Originally Posted by erupt107th

The biggest thing that scares me is AP going nuts on us (pause).

smh girl im talking to is gonna watch the game with me and is a "vikings fan" just after she was a diehard chargers fan last week
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I say the Vikes take that "song" as an insult and use it as personal motivation to stop on the Saints.
 
Originally Posted by JPZx

Well, it's a mixture of things.

-While this may sound stupid, but topping off my list is just the Vikings fan syndrome '98, '01, etc.....we just have a tendency to fizzle under high pressure situations. While I think this team is different, I don't want to get myself too hyped up and feeling good when there's a very realistic chance we could lose this game. While that may sound pessimistic, I think it's just the nature of Vikings fans ever since the 1998 NFC Championship game.

-Brees is very different from Romo. I think Brees will take shots deep at our safeties (something Romo failed to do last week) and we will be exposed. He seems to have a long TD pass to Meachem, Henderson, etc. every, single time I tune into a New Orleans Saints game so with our weak safety play I don't see why that would be different.

-Traditionally, you can cover up safety issues if you get a good pass rush on. It's not an unknown that our front four plays far better at home than on the road. For example, I believe over 3/4 of Jared Allen's sacks have come at home in the Metrodome. Until proven otherwise, can you really assume that they're going to show up on Sunday? Especially with recent reports that Williams is banged up and obviously the Edwards injury in last week's game. I said I thought those were smokescreens and/or minor, but I'm just giving my best take on that as a fan without any personal knowledge obviously. It's all kind of guesswork at this point.

-I've already stated how crucial Percy Harvin is towards us having success on Sunday. If he can't go, that takes away A LOT from what we are capable of doing on the offensive side of the ball. He's our slot/3rd down guy, one of the best kick returners in the league this season, and can even mix it up and run the ball with success every so often when we need a change of pace type of play. It's important for us not to underestimate how important he is to our offense.

-Home field advantage is the biggest factor working in any team's way in this game. All of us Vikings fans/spectators, Vikings personalities in the media, etc. put up a fight against the Cowboy fans and believers last week, saying "Getting that bye and home field advantage was so important" and "We are 8-0 at home this season" and such. It'd be kind of hypocritical to make that such a big selling point when arguing with Cowboy fans and then a week later we turn our backs on the whole concept.

-Crowd noise is another factor that worries me. At the Metrodome the fans are dead quiet when we are on offense which means our offensive line is able to go off the cadence rather than watching the ball move. Being able to go off the cadence is a huge advantage seeing as how it gives you a jump-start on your blocking assignment by being the one to get the first step.

-The Saints being able to stop Adrian Peterson is another thing that makes me wonder if we'll be able to pull it out on Sunday. Last year, they held him to 32 yards on 21 carries. They were 17th in the league last year at stopping the run. This year, they are a little bit worse, but not much worse (21st). Anybody that remembers watching that game last year knows that they had a great gameplan working to stop Adrian Peterson. It was one of the few times he was getting stuffed repeatedly that whole year. I look for them to incorporate into this upcoming game whatever it was that gave them success last year.

...

There's a few other things I'm worried about, such as Reggie Bush's sudden emergence, Darren Sharper's knowledge of the Vikings, etc. but I'm not going to get too in-depth with that stuff.

SMH I feel like I'm acting like "the glass is half-empty" type of fan right now 
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Good stuff JP. Here is where I'd go with the rebuttal to that. 
The Saints will get big plays and they will connect on probably more than a few long passes. We all can agree this will happen heading into this game. They can do this all game long for all I care, if, and only if, they don't score on these long plays. You get this Saints team in the red zone minimizing the field against a spread offense such as the Saints, you can stifle their O with a little pressure and a complimentary zone defense. This will ultimately pin the game up into the special teams battle of FG's, where Hartley scares me none.

While you can't make up for what Percy brings to this offense, Minnesota still has a whole host of weapons that can step up and negate the loss of Harvin. The reason why this team was so dangerous all season was because of the bevy of talent on this team. I'm fully confident that Chester, Shiancoe, and Berrian can all step up huge to make big time plays if Harvin can't go. I'm big on Chester and Shiancoe this game. 

Vikings are wearing earplugs so the noise is a non-factor.
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Nah, the noise is gonna be tough, but I'm not completely sold on it being one of the greatest factors that will decide this game. 

My opinion on Peterson this game is merely a gut feeling I have. Saints stopped him before, yes. However, despite where they were last year and what happned here or there, Peterson should eat this defense alive and that only helps the passing game. If he gets just ONE carry of more than 20 yards in the first quarter, the Saints will be worried for the rest of the game. 

27-24 Minnesota.
 
Originally Posted by 651akathePaul

Originally Posted by JPZx

Well, it's a mixture of things.

-While this may sound stupid, but topping off my list is just the Vikings fan syndrome '98, '01, etc.....we just have a tendency to fizzle under high pressure situations. While I think this team is different, I don't want to get myself too hyped up and feeling good when there's a very realistic chance we could lose this game. While that may sound pessimistic, I think it's just the nature of Vikings fans ever since the 1998 NFC Championship game.

-Brees is very different from Romo. I think Brees will take shots deep at our safeties (something Romo failed to do last week) and we will be exposed. He seems to have a long TD pass to Meachem, Henderson, etc. every, single time I tune into a New Orleans Saints game so with our weak safety play I don't see why that would be different.

-Traditionally, you can cover up safety issues if you get a good pass rush on. It's not an unknown that our front four plays far better at home than on the road. For example, I believe over 3/4 of Jared Allen's sacks have come at home in the Metrodome. Until proven otherwise, can you really assume that they're going to show up on Sunday? Especially with recent reports that Williams is banged up and obviously the Edwards injury in last week's game. I said I thought those were smokescreens and/or minor, but I'm just giving my best take on that as a fan without any personal knowledge obviously. It's all kind of guesswork at this point.

-I've already stated how crucial Percy Harvin is towards us having success on Sunday. If he can't go, that takes away A LOT from what we are capable of doing on the offensive side of the ball. He's our slot/3rd down guy, one of the best kick returners in the league this season, and can even mix it up and run the ball with success every so often when we need a change of pace type of play. It's important for us not to underestimate how important he is to our offense.

-Home field advantage is the biggest factor working in any team's way in this game. All of us Vikings fans/spectators, Vikings personalities in the media, etc. put up a fight against the Cowboy fans and believers last week, saying "Getting that bye and home field advantage was so important" and "We are 8-0 at home this season" and such. It'd be kind of hypocritical to make that such a big selling point when arguing with Cowboy fans and then a week later we turn our backs on the whole concept.

-Crowd noise is another factor that worries me. At the Metrodome the fans are dead quiet when we are on offense which means our offensive line is able to go off the cadence rather than watching the ball move. Being able to go off the cadence is a huge advantage seeing as how it gives you a jump-start on your blocking assignment by being the one to get the first step.

-The Saints being able to stop Adrian Peterson is another thing that makes me wonder if we'll be able to pull it out on Sunday. Last year, they held him to 32 yards on 21 carries. They were 17th in the league last year at stopping the run. This year, they are a little bit worse, but not much worse (21st). Anybody that remembers watching that game last year knows that they had a great gameplan working to stop Adrian Peterson. It was one of the few times he was getting stuffed repeatedly that whole year. I look for them to incorporate into this upcoming game whatever it was that gave them success last year.

...

There's a few other things I'm worried about, such as Reggie Bush's sudden emergence, Darren Sharper's knowledge of the Vikings, etc. but I'm not going to get too in-depth with that stuff.

SMH I feel like I'm acting like "the glass is half-empty" type of fan right now 
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I'm still really confident in the Vikings and what they are capable of doing, but I just can't ignore the observations I've made.
Good stuff JP. Here is where I'd go with the rebuttal to that. 
The Saints will get big plays and they will connect on probably more than a few long passes. We all can agree this will happen heading into this game. They can do this all game long for all I care, if, and only if, they don't score on these long plays. You get this Saints team in the red zone minimizing the field against a spread offense such as the Saints, you can stifle their O with a little pressure and a complimentary zone defense. This will ultimately pin the game up into the special teams battle of FG's, where Hartley scares me none.

While you can't make up for what Percy brings to this offense, Minnesota still has a whole host of weapons that can step up and negate the loss of Harvin. The reason why this team was so dangerous all season was because of the bevy of talent on this team. I'm fully confident that Chester, Shiancoe, and Berrian can all step up huge to make big time plays if Harvin can't go. I'm big on Chester and Shiancoe this game. 

Vikings are wearing earplugs so the noise is a non-factor.
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Nah, the noise is gonna be tough, but I'm not completely sold on it being one of the greatest factors that will decide this game. 

My opinion on Peterson this game is merely a gut feeling I have. Saints stopped him before, yes. However, despite where they were last year and what happned here or there, Peterson should eat this defense alive and that only helps the passing game. If he gets just ONE carry of more than 20 yards in the first quarter, the Saints will be worried for the rest of the game. 

27-24 Minnesota.
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at JPZ and this paul kid.....like i said before, saints by a blowout
 
What did I say that's worthy of "
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" in your eyes Mayor? I basically agreed with you in one aspect  that the Saints have a better shot at winning this game than the Vikings.
Kind of like how you won't bet on the Jets this week because you believe the Colts will steamroll them.
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Do I think the Vikings can win this game? Definitely. But there's a lot of things I see working in the Saints favor that I'm not going to just ignore because I'm a Vikings fan.

You continue to inadvertently embarrass yourself in S&T.
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[h1]Report: Percy Harvin "seems fine"[/h1]
Posted by Mike Florio on January 23, 2010 1:33 PM ET
Take heart, Vikings fans.  After nearly 50 years of frustration, thefootball gods might finally be smiling upon you.

As if the uncanny ability of quarterback Brett Favre to perform like a man half his age wasn't enough, receiver Percy Harvin reportedly is fine, 48 hours after having his preparation for the NFC title game derailed by a migraine headache.

Judd Zulgad of the Minneapolis Star Tribune reports that Harvin is at the team facility, that he "seems fine," and that he's expected to travel with the team to New Orleans.


Harvin,the AP offensive rookie of the year, is a huge part of the team'soffensive game plan.  Even when he doesn't get many receptions (he hadonly three against the Cowboys), teams need to account for him in thesame manner that opposing defenses need to keep an eye on Saintsrunning back Reggie Bush.
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Vikingscharter heading for New Orleans about 1:30. Hearing from multiplepeople Percy Harvin is fine and expected to make the flight. about 1 hour ago from TweetDeck
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So let me get this straight...

You can hysterically laugh at 651akathePaul for having confidence in the Vikings, but when I say the Saints have a good shot at winning this game you tell me I'm wrong for having "no belief" in my team?

You're such a %%*$*@# joke it's unreal
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