Originally Posted by
Super Producer J
Originally Posted by
Seymore CAKE
DoubleJs07 wrote:
amel223 wrote:
Rose makes everybody better on that team bro.
The 8 assists a game is very misleading.
Honest question...what's the difference between the 8apg Iverson put up and Rose's?
Because honestly he's looking to put his players in scoring positions and does it much more often then that number suggest, while Chuck was passing out of necessity because he couldn't get a shot off. If you're watching the games then you know that 8 could/should easily be 10-11 where it not for all the times Luol has missed completely uncontested 3's from the wing, Kieth Bogans misses 3's from everywhere or just doesn't shoot the ball period, or the times Kyle doesn't shoot, or the time Taj misses wide open 17 footers or just drops the pass. He's constantly creating offensive opportunities and open shots for him teammates, now whether or not they finish is a completely different story.
Get out of here with this bull. Every player who dominates the ball has the opportunity to average more assists if his teammates made more shots. What, you think A.I. only passed the ball those 8 times per game? Honestly, nobody was coming in here diminishing Rose's game. He is the bread and butter of the team so naturally, he takes precedence over others getting shots. Again, I don't get to watch many Bulls games, but I've actually seen quite a few this year, including the Christmas day game when I was live in attendance. The Bulls would have been blown out had it not been for Rose (and Boozer) because no one else could buy a bucket. I used to say the same thing watching A.I.
I'm not sure how to respond because I'm not sure if you're intelligent or not after reading that post....
1st and foremost I'm not one of these Johnny come lately basketball fans who doesn't know the game/hasn't watched basketball for more than 5yrs so you should know that first when make statements like the one above. Double asked for a comparison between him and pooh and thats what I did, and I wasn't off base. As far as ball dominating player he's the PG he's supposed to dominate the ball and give it to people in scoring position which is what he does way more than what is shown by his numbers which is what I said. As far as him taking shots if you watch the game he does it when the team is stagnant or we NEED to score, he's not out there putting up shots just cause he can. He scores because he has to, as those of us who watched him night in and night out can attest to he's just as fine shooting 7-8 shots getting 10-14 pts as he is putting up 20 getting 30. He attempts to create offense for others all the time while doing it for himself. He does what the team needs at that time which is what a PG/Lead player's supposed to do.
I've been watching Iverson hoop since his frosh year at Gtown when he missed the floater and Othello Harrington was there for the put back. I've literally watched his entire career so I'm not just speaking upon what I heard or what I read from stats. Allen rarely ever had the mentality of let me set up my teammates/get them in a rthym he went out and carried his squad the best way he could/he knew how by attempting to score. We're talking about a player who said "If they were to move me to the 2 I'd lead the league in scoring" His main objective was to score passing was a distant 2nd. He would get assist due to teams collapsing on him and him finding people, not because he was setting him up. Two totally different things who are you attempting to fool?
I didn't even want to take it here, I said I wasn't taking it here... These... I need to practice better self control.
