CDP 4 vs 2012 Bred retro 4

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i feel that the 2012 version is definetely better hands down material and even shape wise. im sure many others agree. is the 2012 bred retro 4's version durabuck though? material is better than my cdp 4's
 
CDP's shape was trash but it stills wins, and it is no contest. Because of the durabuck

Those white lines the durbuck lines leaves are an important aesthetic. Without them the 2012 just look off
 
My vote goes to the CDP because of the Durabuck.
But the paint on the midsole was crap.
 
both have their pluses

Material, CDP wins, but they were mad thin so that takes away from them.

Then add in the banana shape and the chipping.

The 2012 seem more comfortable also
 
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Sorry but I'm not a fan of the cdp IV. The material was grey from the jump. I'd rather my black shoes be black when I buy them.
 
the 2012 retro is trash. So many cracked midsoles. I'm still contemplating sending mine back to Nike for credit toward something else. I was so blown after 3 wears when they showed signs of cracking/peeling :(
 
the 2012 is a better made shoe and that's not saying much

the 2008 cdp 4 is total crap
 
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2012 is def better. most if not all of jays crack at midsole so ehhhhh. as far as peeling midsoles go, my 2012 havent peeled and i wear mine regularly. the way you guys wear your bred 4's is questionable. 
 
CDP's looked way better, but it seems like the 2012 quality was better. Still can't get that Michael Beasley picture out of my head tho
 
This thread reminds me of the crumbled bred iv's

They looked like.... CornBred 
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2012 are terrible as all theb2012's were because of the ridiculously high tongue on them purely to satisfy these fashionista hype beasts who enjoy wearing 4's with their jeans tucked behind the tongue.
I wore these for ball the other week and a teammate of my vintage agreed that the tongues looked terrible.
 
Neither are 99's so it all depends on if you really care about durabuck vs nubuck


Me? I don't care. But I have the 2012 and I love them.

Would prefer the 99 shape though.

08's were ******g banana shaped. I hate that.
 
those awful looking grey on grey on grey 4s in the other thread have a well shaped toebox...have a look...

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while the shape of the 2012 is better than the cdp, it is still only half-right in my book
look at what a difference a quick ps can make - i feel jb will start to do the toebox right, soon...

have not given up on da toebox

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but ya, black-cement 4s require the old material upper, durabuck i guess with the lines
 
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CDP's are trash... I stay leaving midsole chips everywhere when I throw those on. Only use now for my CDP's is to hold me off from unDS my 2012 retros
 
I personally haven't dealt with cdp IVs but if they're worse then wow. I wear all my shoes carefully and I'm 6'9" 220 so I'm not overweight by any means. Trash :( :{
 
those awful looking grey on grey on grey 4s in the other thread have a well shaped toebox...have a look...

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while the shape of the 2012 is better than the cdp, it is still only half-right in my book
look at what a difference a quick ps can make - i feel jb will start to do the toebox right, soon...

have not given up on da toebox

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but ya, black-cement 4s require the old material upper, durabuck i guess with the lines
Sadly they were cursed with the infamous cliff toe.
 
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