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Shaka Zulu was DEFINITELY chopping heads…
So was Idi Amin
So was Idi Amin
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He should've said Diddy. The point would've came across immediately.
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Those convos will NEVER go anywhere because it can ALWAYS be blamed on "Da PAtriarchy."
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One thing I always hated was when folks say “WE gotta do better” when an individual or a specific group of folks are wildin…That’s straight programming and brainwashing, other groups don’t get lumped in with negative stuff as a whole as much as black folks…N the sad part is it’s often black ppl themselves pushing this type of narrative 
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Hold up, I thought she retired to marry her soulmate. What happened
spill the tea
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Hold up, I thought she retired to marry her soulmate. What happened
He said was prisoner
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Hold up, I thought she retired to marry her soulmate. What happened
He was in prison
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.Hold up, I thought she retired to marry her soulmate. What happened
I won't touch it any further.
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Honestly, we aren't like anyone else. Due to how we were brought here we HAD to lean on eachother. So all for one is definitely going to resonate with US more than any other group that has existed because nobody else has had it the way that we've had it.One thing I always hated was when folks say “WE gotta do better” when an individual or a specific group of folks are wildin…That’s straight programming and brainwashing, other groups don’t get lumped in with negative stuff as a whole as much as black folks…N the sad part is it’s often black ppl themselves pushing this type of narrative
So I hear what you are saying but that will always be the case with us.
I don't think it is a "brainwashing" thing at all, I think it's a genuine feeling that we have for eachother.
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The WNBA forced her to retire because of it!? Wow that's crazy. From what I just read on it, he was in prison but wasn't a criminal.
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Yes but we also use it a a vehicle to ostracize each other causing separation more that togetherness because we really don't have that feeling for each other. We not the only ones with this problem but I feel like it hits us harder.
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Rev Dr. MLK Jr. already had the antidote back in the 1960s...but race is a hell of a drug.
It has, does, and will always take more than a color to make a community.
Are all black shoes the same? Are all black animals the same? Sounds ridiculous, right?
Imagine thinking all black cars are the same just because they're painted black.
Race as a social construct appeals to both conscientious stupidity and sincere ignorance, of which nothing is more dangerous or bountiful among the human species.
Logically speaking, no group should be more opposed to the concept of race than Black Americans.
That doesn't mean we can't be proud of who we are; it means we refuse to allow race to define or limit us on its own terms.
It has, does, and will always take more than a color to make a community.
Are all black shoes the same? Are all black animals the same? Sounds ridiculous, right?
Imagine thinking all black cars are the same just because they're painted black.
Race as a social construct appeals to both conscientious stupidity and sincere ignorance, of which nothing is more dangerous or bountiful among the human species.
Logically speaking, no group should be more opposed to the concept of race than Black Americans.
That doesn't mean we can't be proud of who we are; it means we refuse to allow race to define or limit us on its own terms.
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Exactly. Let’s not act like none us don’t know how or why there is a “WE” mentality with us at times.
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“At times…”
A community either is or isn’t, it’s not a sometimes-when-I-approve-them-****** or they-canthing. Thats when it all falls apart. Its too many folks worrying about how they feel about what they’re doing over there. If folks stop trying to save the “black community” and start trying to save themselves and when they get to a certain point, then start throwing lines to folk on a similar path. Start a real trickle down effect. At this point, Im weary of anyone thats trying to help the “black community” vs someone on a similar path.
A community either is or isn’t, it’s not a sometimes-when-I-approve-them-****** or they-canthing. Thats when it all falls apart. Its too many folks worrying about how they feel about what they’re doing over there. If folks stop trying to save the “black community” and start trying to save themselves and when they get to a certain point, then start throwing lines to folk on a similar path. Start a real trickle down effect. At this point, Im weary of anyone thats trying to help the “black community” vs someone on a similar path.
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The “at times” part was in reference to anyone on here that DOESN’T think that a “black community mindset” exist or should exist.
The other point in your statement I completely agree with……that’s as far as not trying to save the black community and focus on yourself and then get with like-minded people like you that represent your values and character.
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well to what extent to you disagree? man’s critique of ‘pan-africanism’ is pretty plain, almost unassailable in the modern context, unless maybe the unifying principle is around anti-colonialism owing to the particular exploitation & treatment of african/melanated peoples globally in the past to get some type of specific reparations going forward for all the respective parties unique to their circumstance(s) & history; which
how possible that is…which isn’t to say there can’t be alliances that span across continents, countries, communities, tribes, etc. down to the person to person level but was always a tough sell pan africanism is tough sell
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definitely not dismissing the disrespect on display but not really surprised by the opinions expressed in the vid, most places in the world have some some ridiculous rationalizations based on an amalgamation of anecdotal experience, secondhand stories, limited media exposure, & just plain being misinformed &/or uninformed about their own culture vs. others…as such some cultural narcissism can be expected, altho if the interviews were flipped i don’t think most black americans would be as intentionally disrespectful if they even had thoughts at all about specific african populations (maybe of a couple of the more populous african nations or if they themselves have some experience with a particular ethnicity/nationalty) rather than their generic view of ‘africans’ based on what they know
it’s funny because culture is probably (black) america’s biggest export…this being the case it’s interesting that so many hold that ‘they don’t have culture’ view, tho i have a few of thoughts around the meaning of that statement & the generic classification of ‘black culture’
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well to what extent to you disagree? man’s critique of ‘pan-africanism’ is pretty plain, almost unassailable in the modern context, unless maybe the unifying principle is around anti-colonialism owing to the particular exploitation & treatment of african/melanated peoples globally in the past to get some type of specific reparations going forward for all the respective parties unique to their circumstance(s) & history; which
When I said to a “certain extent” I meant that as far as some black people are on code with you and some are not. Some black folks we have to charge to the game and not FULLY have that “ WE” mentality.
Also……personally I don’t believe in pan-Africanism, or at least in today’s age in time. I think that’s just something some black people say to make themselves feel good. It’s that Nas in the movie Belly mentality……”Let’s Go to Africa”……..I be like, sit down ***** you ain’t going nowhere.
There is no such thing as pan-Africanism. We haven’t been offered dual citizenship to any country over in Africa, and at the end of the day black people have to understand that Africa isn’t thinking about US (Black Americans) and we certainly are not thinking about them………and that’s okay. This (America) is our home……we and we alone built this country and made it the great nation that it is. That’s why so many people want to come here. We should not only take honor in that…..but take more direct financial ownership as a result……..in whatever setting.
"Pan-Africanism is a global movement promoting the unity, solidarity, and self-determination of African people on the continent and in the diaspora, born from the shared struggles against slavery, colonialism, and racism to foster cultural pride, economic strength, and political independence, advocating for a unified African identity and collective liberation."
My POV is Black Americans are no more African than White Americans are European or Asian Americans are Asian.
As such, words like "diaspora" and phrases like "Pan-Africanism" do not resonate with me.
Sounds like propaganda.
What do Black Americans gain by identifying as/with Africans?
If Black Americans have nothing to gain, then who does?
My time is better spent focusing on my own interests right here at home.
If Black Americans are not African, then Pan-Africanism has nothing to do with us.
As it relates to African "culture," it's poor taste to throw stones from glass houses
My POV is Black Americans are no more African than White Americans are European or Asian Americans are Asian.
As such, words like "diaspora" and phrases like "Pan-Africanism" do not resonate with me.
Sounds like propaganda.
What do Black Americans gain by identifying as/with Africans?
If Black Americans have nothing to gain, then who does?
My time is better spent focusing on my own interests right here at home.
If Black Americans are not African, then Pan-Africanism has nothing to do with us.
As it relates to African "culture," it's poor taste to throw stones from glass houses
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