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Boyce Watkins took a hard L on this one :rofl:

So we calls out Kamala Harris for being married to a white guy




Of course Twitter then calls him out for his daughter being married to a white guy

Then people look up his old tweets


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Boyce took a fat L on this one
 
Also, what's with all these Black male "leaders" like Umar, Tariq and Boyce Watkins coming for Kamala Harris? The moment that it was announced she was running the immediately started a smear campaign. It seems like they go a lot of harder at the black candidates than they do the white ones.
 
atlsfinest said:
Also, what's with all these Black male "leaders" like Umar, Tariq and Boyce Watkins coming for Kamala Harris? The moment that it was announced she was running the immediately started a smear campaign. It seems like they go a lot of harder at the black candidates than they do the white ones.
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It's not just them. Her record and her trying to run as the first black women president is what have people up in arms. They go harder on the black candidates because we share a commonality which is being black. Of course we are gonna go harder on our own. We expect more and better from them because they know the problems we face.

Also, they go at white candidates when necessary. To say that they don't means you don't follow them.
 
atlsfinest said:
Also, what's with all these Black male "leaders" like Umar, Tariq and Boyce Watkins coming for Kamala Harris? The moment that it was announced she was running the immediately started a smear campaign. It seems like they go a lot of harder at the black candidates than they do the white ones.
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When it comes to black intellectuals, they will always fall into two major categories: a) the ones that are most concerned about spreading good info and b) the ones most concerned with building their status and monetizing the spread of info.

To people like Tariq, Umar, and Boyce, they need to tear down black candidates (and other intellectuals they disagree with) because they are a direct threat to their income stream and status. If their audience gets too attached to someone else, they will inevitably get exposed to info and well-reasoned arguments that contradicts stuff the Tariqs/Umar/Boyce type dudes preach. Once that happens, these loyal members of your audience that would buy whatever you were putting out, now looks at you funny because they know some of the stuff you were peddling was kind of BS. Not all, but enough where they no longer come to you for info first.

That threat doesn’t exist with white candidates.

On the flip side, there are many black intellectuals will make good faith criticisms of black candidates because they see an fault in their ideology or actions. Black folk usually hold black people to a higher standard, especially in politics, because there's an assumption that other black people should know the unique problems facing the community. Arguing Harris's parental attitude toward black and poor communities may lead to poor policy is a good faith argument. Being upset that her office tried to keep CA's prison labor population in tact is a good faith attack. Wondering if she doesn’t care about black people because she married a white man is a bad faith attack. And the less dudes know, or care to know, about the specific systems oppressing black folk and how to change those systems, the more they try to guess what is in people’s hearts and make bad faith attacks.
 
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Black folks have no problem preying on each other..Detroit is prime example of the apple being rotten to the core
 
Not a pressing interview, but she went into things specifically for black people which still i'm assuming won't be good enough.
 
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Mark Antony said:
Go hard to discredit the black candidates, then when it gets to the white ones "it doesn't matter".
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They're not even discrediting them. I've listened to Tariq and Jason Black just lay out Kamala's history and people take it how they want. People know she has a funny resume so that look at it as a attack.

And Corey Booker just flat out played himself in his breakfast club interview. They was killing him in the comments. People ain't falling for that "well I'm americas president, not black peoples" game no more.
 
Mark Antony said:
Yeah honestly i'm not mad at folks wanting to hear more about black people for black people.
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I’m all about people being more civically engaged. We should be asking candidates what your policies going to do for me and my community. I’m also painfully aware of how fragile white america is when it comes to voting and politics. I’m not sure if any politician who’s actually got the black communities interests in mind would be able to make it to the presidency with out being “strategically” all inclusive.
 
atlsfinest said:
Boyce Watkins took a hard L on this one :rofl:

So we calls out Kamala Harris for being married to a white guy




Of course Twitter then calls him out for his daughter being married to a white guy

Then people look up his old tweets


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Boyce took a fat L on this one
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Yikes!!!

Welp. I personally don't care for Mrs. Harris but Boyce deserved that L for asking that flagrant question.

Asking "If #KamalaHarris went to an #HBCU, what do you think led her to marry a white man?" implies that there was something wrong with the Black men and overall black culture at Howard and other HBCU's. There is no need to discuss how nasty and malicious it is to Kamala, HBCU's and HBCU alumni to ask a question like that.

I also understand that HBCU's have a checkered past that Boyce may be criticizing, but I think that the over generalization of criticism toward black people is not doing anything productive for black people. Oddly enough all of the Howard Alumni I know personally that come to mind either currently or previously owned a business and are married to black partners. I don't think the correlation of HBCU's to Kamala's swirl is fair to the overall narrative of a HBCU alumni.
 
jdfrenchbread23 said:
I’m all about people being more civically engaged. We should be asking candidates what your policies going to do for me and my community. I’m also painfully aware of how fragile white america is when it comes to voting and politics. I’m not sure if any politician who’s actually got the black communities interests in mind would be able to make it to the presidency with out being “strategically” all inclusive.
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Yeah this is how I approach it at the end of the day, but I understand how disheartening it can be to not have a distinct voice. I feel like someone should make that push regardless of what the outcome may be and let's see how it goes. I feel like AOC's approach was fairly "radical" in serving her constituents but she did it anyways and won.
 
If you want to do something for Black people, running for President has already been done. Obama did his thing, and he proved that you cannot change the conditions that Black people face from the White House. The Black issue in America, the true elephant in the room, is religion. Until Black people leave the Abrahamic faiths behind, Black people will always come in last in regard to human rights, especially in america's political system. The first place politicians look for the Black vote is at the church. The Black female christian vote is incredibly persuasive among of majority of the Black community. Both the right wing and left wing politicians know it. They want you to vote their values, because they are supposedly christian/muslim or jew as well. Those values are faith based which are at the root of the problem for Black America. Even if you are not Christian, you are effected by this consciousness, or lack there of. Christian thought has never been community based, it is faith based. It is a faith that those in the Abrahamic faith share, even though one may be in the Klan, with others having allegiances with other countries, those that have no interest in Black freedom.

Being a Black Christian, Muslim or Jew, you will always vote against your best interests while in racist America IF you vote through the values of said faith.
 
There is no one stop shop for our condition being the way it it so to solely place the blame on the church is off base. It's one issue part of many.
 
You can disagree all that you want, feeling that what I have stated is off base. However, Jesus Christ has never been a friend to Black people and there have never been a people more loyal to the Church than the people who have been deemed Black. The Black church has been cemented in this country as being the backbone of the community. People leave the church seeking free will, they are threatened with dogma. If Jesus never showed up, Black people would still be home and traveling to other lands by choice, not by force.
 
Kamala's interview is a lot better than Corey Booker's. She still did some dancing around questions. And the way they asked some of those questions was layups. You can tell DJ Envy is a big supporter of her's and his history real funny style.
 
lol Does anyone who thinks that they were born in sin, really think that they deserve to be a success in this world? It is your birthright to not be tread upon, enslaved or treated like second class citizens. The Black community's biggest issue is believing in itself, and trying to be a part of the american dream. Interwoven in the american dream are the abrahamic faiths, with Christianity being in the lead. There was a time that all immigrants had to have a sponsor in this country, the immigrants who came in from Europe. That sponsor had to be Christian, then had to have enough money to assist in the living conditions of that immigrant, so that the immigrant was not a burden upon the american system. Africans in america had that way of being forced upon them, so that they could be more about america instead of about themselves. The dysfunction is now so great, you see the effects in how Black people view each other, which was intentional. The divide and conquer technique worked. But if Black people ever got away from what keeps us divided, the system that is fortified by keeping your eye on the pie in the sky, things would change quickly politically. The politicians will not know how Black people think, and they will not know where to find us.

Leave Jesus, Black unity will ensue.
 
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