Black Culture Discussion Thread

No it has not.
We still talking.
We just have different opinions.
Just because we not all blindly agreeing doesn't mean the thread took a turn for the worst.
Not everyone thinks the same and that's okay to me.
Not even what I'm referencing, but okay.
 
Tbh, I don't think it's worth paying hundreds of dollars to find out specifics about places I or my immediate have family personally have never set foot in. That's what wikipedia and nat geo is for. I know I'm mainly of West African descent with a small amount of European in there. Paying for something that should be obvious is crazy to me.
 
It’s $79 for ancestry son, it’s not that steep.

Do you know where in West Africa? Do you know how much African you are as opposed to European?

Wouldn’t it be cool to say “oh a majority of me is from Mali, I would like to visit there”

The amount of great things that can come from it is worth the $79
 
I think these ancestry test are skewed. How many ppl in these rural hard to reach areas have access to these test?

I would think that largely ppl from developed nation's take the test(or remote places hat have come in contact with developed nation's via aid or releif etc.)
If 100mil European samples compare to 1million African samples, you have to question the accuracy of the whole thing.
If billions of ppl all over the world have submitted then the accuracy increases.
Plus it's only comparing to the samples of modern geographic boundaries and those people's location. That's not necessarily the same thing as where your DNA comes from.
It's an average of where your DNA is now. Nevermind war, genocide, displacement, migration.
 
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It’s $79 for ancestry son, it’s not that steep.

Do you know where in West Africa? Do you know how much African you are as opposed to European?

Wouldn’t it be cool to say “oh a majority of me is from Mali, I would like to visit there”

The amount of great things that can come from it is worth the $79
Maybe it's me but I find it hard to really identify with cultures that I've separated from for hundreds of years. It's like those white bread americans that become irish for one day out of the year for st. paddy's day or two if they're a ufc fan. The last bit of ethinic ties they have are now shallow cash grabs rather than anything authentic. I couldn't take myself seriously if I sent in some dna to one of these sites, found out I was 65% west african, 30% european and 5% random region, and put any more stock into it besides confirming what I already knew.
 
I think these ancestry test are skewed. How many ppl in these rural hard to reach areas have access to these test?

I would think that largely ppl from developed nation's take the test(or remote places hat have come in contact with developed nation's via aid or releif etc.)
If 100mil European samples compare to 1million African samples, you have to question the accuracy of the whole thing.
If billions of ppl all over the world have submitted then the accuracy increases.
Plus it's only comparing to the samples of modern geographic boundaries and those people's location. That's not necessarily the same thing as where your DNA comes from.
It's an average of where your DNA is now. Nevermind war, genocide, displacement.


Dude my Nigerian (born in America) friend from college took one and it came out to be 97% Nigerian and 3% Ghana/Ivory Coast.

Trust me it’s accurate as hell.
 
https://gizmodo.com/how-dna-testing-botched-my-familys-heritage-and-probab-1820932637

Four tests, four very different answers about where my DNA comes from—including some results that contradicted family history I felt confident was fact. What gives?

There are a few different factors at play here.

Genetics is inherently a comparative science: Data about your genes is determined by comparing them to the genes of other people.

As Adam Rutherford, a British geneticist and author of the excellent book “A Brief History of Everyone Who Ever Lived,” explained to me, we’ve got a fundamental misunderstanding of what an ancestry DNA test even does.

“They’re not telling you where your DNA comes from in the past,” he told me, “They’re telling you where on Earth your DNA is from today.”
 
youngogjosh youngogjosh but it’s gonna tell you where imma europe and Africa?

You know those are 2 big *** continents right?
I get that, I guess my point is, knowing history both inside of a classroom and through the internet. I know the euro genetics in me most likely won't be from say, Romania, they'll most likely be from the British Isles (either GB, Scottland, or Ireland going by my last name) and the African part of my dna will most likely be from West Africa and maybe some from Central Africa. I've been curious before and still am, so I've learned the histories of these places and I feel that that's enough to know how I and my family ended up here. It'd be cool to say my ancestors are specifically from such and such as you said, but I feel like it wouldn't enrich me beyond satisfying a curiosity.

Though, for $79 (I thought it was more expensive) it can't be too bad, certainly, have spent my money on worse.
 
I feel like African Americans are something new now since we were stripped of our past.

Even if your genetics come back and say you 90 percent Ghanaian, you can't go there as an American and try to be Ghanaian. They gone run you for everything. We need economic cultural exchange. I'm not finna go over there and hug and cry with someone cuz we got similar brown tones and nose. It's a nice and novel notion to connect with them like that but not grounded in reality.
 
Ain’t nobody saying you should go there and hug and cry with anyone.

It’s about have a clearer understanding of who you really are.

As you said we have been stripped of knowing who we are.

It’s just a starting point
 
https://www.businessinsider.com/dna-testing-delete-your-data-23andme-ancestry-2018-7
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  • If that new has you wondering about how your own genetic material is being used, here's a guide to deleting your DNA sample and data from 23andMe, Ancestry, and Helix.
 


Yeah, nah I’m good off that.

I’m African American. I’m good off that alone.

I don’t need to know where my great great great great ancestors came from bad enough to sell my dna. I don’t even know them people like that.

I know my family as far back as I can remember and I know further from what they’ve told me. I don’t need some website to tell me what country they came from, that still won’t create a bond between me and a stranger from 200+ years ago
 
I swear I get frustrated talking to niketalk about real ****.

You can order it from a friends house and get the results sent to a made up email.

When I ordered all the kits, I gave one to my homeboy and he sent in his saliva. THEY HAVR NO IDEA WHO HE WAS NAME OR ADDRESS. With my information, I don’t care. I think it was more important for me to find out who I was instead of worrying about all the conspiracy crap.

A lot of black people have no idea who they are and where they are from and it’s very interesting to finally pinpoint what is your ethnic makeup.

As I said, I recommend using ancestry if you want to find out.
so u got ur friend cloned
type of friend are u
 
Maybe it's me but I find it hard to really identify with cultures that I've separated from for hundreds of years..
I think the POINT is we are lost, in terms of knowing where we came from.
Maybe finding out your roots can put you closer to those "cultures that you been separated from for hundreds of years."

That is how I view it.

We are the only fools that don't have anywhere to call home
 
I think the POINT is we are lost, in terms of knowing where we came from.
Maybe finding out your roots can put you closer to those "cultures that you been separated from for hundreds of years."

That is how I view it.

We are the only fools that don't have anywhere to call home


But didn’t our ancestors fight, to make this our home?
 
I think the POINT is we are lost, in terms of knowing where we came from.
Maybe finding out your roots can put you closer to those "cultures that you been separated from for hundreds of years."

That is how I view it.

We are the only fools that don't have anywhere to call home
I don't feel lost, my home is right where I was born. As for culture, AA's already have that, in fact, I feel ours is more widespread than our forebears.
 
I think these ancestry test are skewed. How many ppl in these rural hard to reach areas have access to these test?

I would think that largely ppl from developed nation's take the test(or remote places hat have come in contact with developed nation's via aid or releif etc.)
If 100mil European samples compare to 1million African samples, you have to question the accuracy of the whole thing.
If billions of ppl all over the world have submitted then the accuracy increases.
Plus it's only comparing to the samples of modern geographic boundaries and those people's location. That's not necessarily the same thing as where your DNA comes from.
It's an average of where your DNA is now. Nevermind war, genocide, displacement, migration.

i don't think people quite understand that nuance, these types tests have limited utility in telling people where they are ancestrally are actually from but where people that share some genetic similarity are currently, and only a somewhat of a utility in identifying groups of peoples/tribes due to the bias of the representative samples (i.e. these test could be missing large swathes of identifiers because they don't have large samples across many populations). in some ways, i think it is kinda arbitrary to even decide to in effect stop the clock at particular point of time and say a certain point of time is where it stops given that we are in most cases more genetically similar than different; it is culture that divides and/or brings folks together and the point that african americans are "something new," or their own entity is one that both sides of the equation (african americans & africans) understand implicitly because of the difference/similarities in culture...

Maybe it's me but I find it hard to really identify with cultures that I've separated from for hundreds of years. It's like those white bread americans that become irish for one day out of the year for st. paddy's day or two if they're a ufc fan. The last bit of ethinic ties they have are now shallow cash grabs rather than anything authentic. I couldn't take myself seriously if I sent in some dna to one of these sites, found out I was 65% west african, 30% european and 5% random region, and put any more stock into it besides confirming what I already knew.

we are still basically in the preliminary stages of this being consumer/widely available, part of the original aim(s) of this knowledge/tech was more toward disease awarness/prevention & healthcare (to which point, it makes the accuracy of these tests very important & is why many of these tests put caveats on, downplay or have gotten away from completely those aspects; because the fact is these test can be WILDLY inaccurate or at the very least incomplete) than ancestry, and in that respect it may one day prove very useful for healthcare (again ominous implications aside).

Ain’t nobody saying you should go there and hug and cry with anyone.

It’s about have a clearer understanding of who you really are.

As you said we have been stripped of knowing who we are.

It’s just a starting point

not saying this info can't or won't do these things but what clearer understanding did you gather from the results? how was it a starting point for you? there is no denying that black folk (specifically in americas/western hemisphere, but it definitely could/should be argued more broadly for the whole black diaspora) have had been stripped on their history (and arguably some of the present & future too) but i'm not sure, even if there was a such a test that could tell people with 100% certainty the tribe of peoples they are descended from, this type of knowledge could illuminate something (other than maybe some potential health concerns) or create a connection to a people/place

I think the POINT is we are lost, in terms of knowing where we came from.
Maybe finding out your roots can put you closer to those "cultures that you been separated from for hundreds of years."

That is how I view it.

We are the only fools that don't have anywhere to call home

#homeiswhereyoumakeit? how do you define 'lost?' and why attribute that to a whole people??
 
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