Black Culture Discussion Thread

[pmpdaddyrobford]

Is Eddie bein serious or mad tongue and cheek

he’s serious.

this is how the Umar Johnsons of our culture become so popular

its weird.
years ago people dismissed conspiracies, chain letters, and tabloid trash for the garbage it was

today, you put those same conspiracies, chain letters, and tabloid trash onto social media and it becomes true.

OR its a “yeah, i KNOW its fake BUT...”

cmon man, seriously?

id so like to think we’re smarter than that. maybe we arent.

i blame social media.
i also blame ignorance, stupidity, and peoples overall laziness in seeking knowledge

social media is a nasty mirror showing us just how dumb, superficial, concieted, and ugly we really are as a society.

and just think, we’re still within the infancy of social media

I like his stand up and everything but the way he blew all his damn money, not shocked he's easy to believe some hair brained conspiracy theory

 

[sugafree]

Discuss plz

 

[tokes99]

People need to stop dancing around this. The fact is we live in a country that has historically pushed that white is better. You can't ignore how mentally racism has f'ed us up. It's definitely A LOT of black men that marry white girls for status. Not all but just listen to how some _'s talk about white girls. "I got white girl!!". They talk about 'em like they found gold and this is just regular dudes with everyday white girls. So when you look at these athletes and other "successful" brothas with white girls it's definitely about status and acceptance in a lot of cases. And just being honest some of these dudes don't even pick white girls that's fine. They get these library, homely looking chicks.

Now I do think you can be about your people even if your in a interracial relationship. I was watching that Quincy Jones documentary and all his kids are mixed but he didn't hesitate to be real racism and calling it out.

it's funny you mention quincy jones, because i remember in that interview that had the internets buzzin' some moths ago his (or maybe the general feeling of many black american jazz musicians in his day?) rationale (and this could be an apocryphal exaggeration on his part) was he went after white women as a kind of an affront to white society;

When people think about Quincy Jones, what do you think they misunderstand about you?

"Oh, that I only like blondes. How stupid can that be, when you're in South Africa and Cairo and Brazil and China—looking for a ******* blonde?"

I didn't know that was a perception of you.

"Well, because I had three wives, white wives, and they stereotype, you know. But they wrong like a ************, man. You ever see Black Orpheus? That was my old lady, Marpessa Dawn. Gorgeous lady, man."

You did get some criticism for having white wives, didn't you?

"I don't give a ****. Because they think that's all you like, but that's stupid, man. Here's what you've got to understand: The interracial thing was part of a revolution, too, because back in the '40s and stuff, they would say, 'You can't mess with a white man's money.… Don't mess with his women.' We weren't going to take that ****. Charlie Parker, everybody there, was married to a white wife."

And it felt like there was some sense of liberation in that?

"Yeah! It was freedom, man. Do what you want to do, and nobody can tell you what to do. Charlie…I used to go to things with Charlie Parker, man—boy, he'd have everybody smoke some weed and he'd have, like, the founders of Sears Roebuck, the ladies walking around the pool, all of them nude, man. Him playing alto, buck dancing around the pool. Them cats didn't play."

although i don't believe in these grand conspiracies, the point that we are 'programmed' in many ways is something that we all need to be aware of (also because the counter 'programming' oft times is coming from same place(s)/source(s)); beauty standards, societal mores and norms have & are pretty much still based on the model of whiteness...

 

[pmpdaddyrobford]

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Discuss plz

Why are yall eating on the bed man.

But yea, if you can afford all the wives, do your thing.

 

[tokes99]

Discuss plz

i think most of his/their rationale about what is 'natural' for men & women is kinda retrograde; humans, tho animals we are, have proven ourselves to be quite adaptable/flexible to having all manner of different ways of living...i do agree with the sentiment of knowing one's own nature/self tho, moreso in relation to being aware of how one responds to things; what is going on in the moment, or in the near future & not necessarily in the grasping at or rooting one's self to the past...

 

[d nice]

Whenever black folks try to assert our dominance we get our hand slapped and get told to be humble or to be more inclusive... aka be docile.

WE created hip hop. That is OUR culture. It's already bad enough we don't dominate the Hip-Hop industry economically.

For prominent black people to act like there is no black folks qualified for the job is asinine. I'm really disappointing in 9th Wonder and many others for those comments encouraging this. His assertion that white people are essentially the reason for the success of Hip-Hop acts and therefore deserve opportunities over black people when curating the culture are crazy to me.

You are about curating a culture that was built by oppressed people. It would behoove you to empower those of the oppressed group to make sure it is presented correctly. The optics of this look bad all around the table. I'm not saying white people shouldn't help or be allies in this situation... I'm saying I want to see the one making the final decisions be someone literally with the most skin in the game. Its our culture and therefore we should make the final decisions in how it is presented to the world. It's that simple.

I agree with you. We created it but we don't own it, control it, or have any say in who it's marketed and distributed to. And that's because our relationship to America is a colonial one. The same thing that is happening to hiphop happened to Jazz as well ( Most of our community left it behind). It doesn't matter what black folks create. This will always happen as long as our relationship to this country is the same. For more depth on this download this book and read it.

https://imixwhatilike.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/iMiXWHATiLiKE-Full-Book.pdf

 

[d nice]

I don't know how much time you have on your hands, but I do have some ebooks and resources. My belief is that we need a racial and political education that fosters an understanding of the past as well as the present to fully grasp our situation.

Here are some sites to give you a good foundation to start with.

http://exhibitions.nypl.org/africanaage/essay-pan-africanism.html

http://www.blackpast.org/perspectives/pan-african-congresses-1900-1945

https://www.panafricanalliance.com/understanding-pan-africanism/

https://revolutionarystrategicstudi...ah-the-people-of-africa-are-crying-for-unity/

Books:
http://b-ok.xyz/book/2470009/2dfe48

http://b-ok.xyz/book/884303/1165a0

http://b-ok.xyz/book/1193857/ad64ff

http://b-ok.xyz/book/971947/b9c5af

Here is a whole google folder of books
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0Bz011IF2Pu9TUWIxVWxybGJ1Ync

That should keep you busy for awhile. Happy reading.

 

[goledensilence]

 

[tay1]

Reading that Russia is trying to get into the mix with Africa. The scramble for Africa 2.0 is really strong.

 

[layziegunts]

75% of all resources in Africa is owned by people outside the continent. If that doesn't scare you as black people, then I dont know what else will.

 

[atlsfinest]

Neo-colonization at work throughout Africa. It's hard to tell poor nations not to accept business and money but letting the Chinese own as much land (and African debt) as they do throughout Africa is dangerously shortsighted.

A generation from now when Africa may want to rise up and become something they won't be able to because the Chinese own everything

 

[atlsfinest]

Semi Related
Funny

A coworker (white dude) married a black woman.

He was explaining to me that his wife REFUSED to go see black panther with him. He couldn't understand and I think he low-ki wanted me to explain it to him.

I didn't but stuff like that makes me feel funny about US marrying outside of race.

When there are cultural movements/moments/shifts, can we confidently/honestly celebrate with a mate that isn't black?

I am sure you/we can, but it is just a qeird concept to me.

I understand those that think it isn't that deep though

Your co-worker's wife is a weirdo. I'm black (Liberian immigrant) and I saw Black Panther with my white girlfriend. Just last weekend we saw 'Black Odyssey' (modern day re-telling of the Odyssey with an all black cast). She's been to my mom's house and had fufu and soup and all kinds of African dishes. If she doesn't feel comfortable doing something as simple as seeing a movie with her white husband I can already tell they're gonna have issues later . If you can't talk to your spouse about your culture, why be with them?

 

[atlsfinest]

I hear there are black people who feel as though they can't talk to their non-black partners about certain things and unfortunate. I can talk to my girl about anything. I understand that there are always going to be cultural difference between people and there are always gonna be things that need to be explained because they can't relate. The way I see it, the only way I could have a spouse that I wouldn't have any culture shock with is it I dated a Liberian girl (specifically a Gola descent). Me and my girl are compatible on so many levels that I can take having to break somethings down for her because we click on so many other levels

 

[layziegunts]

atlsfinest what race is your girl?

 

[atlsfinest]

atlsfinest what race is your girl?

She's white.

 

[atlsfinest]

Sierra Leone has cancelled a $400m (£304m) Chinese-funded project to build a new airport outside the capital Freetown.
Former President Ernest Bai Koroma signed the loan agreement with China before he lost elections in March.

At the time, the World Bank and the IMF warned that the project would impose a heavy debt burden.

The decision comes amid concern that many African countries risk defaulting on their debts to China.

China is now the single largest bilateral financier of infrastructure in Africa - surpassing the African Development Bank (ADB), the European Commission, the European Investment Bank, the International Finance Corporation, the World Bank and the Group of eight (G countries combined.

Critics say China is luring countries into debt traps by lending them money for massive infrastructure projects.

Props to Sierra Leone for seeing the bigger picture. If another country owns all your debt and your land, they effectively become unelected leaders of that other nation.

 

[Nouss]

So the Chinese are lending us money, just for us to use that money to pay Chinese companies to build our infrastructure. Chinese companies that send all that money back to China. All the while leaving us in a state of perpetual debt.

African nations getting finessed...water is wet.

 

[atlsfinest]

So the Chinese are lending us money, just for us to use that money to pay Chinese companies to build our infrastructure. Chinese companies that send all that money back to China. All the while leaving us in a state of perpetual debt.

African nations getting finessed...water is wet.

Pretty much. The Chinese come in under the guise of being Good Samaritans who just want to help these poor African countries but the end up funding these very expensive infrastructure projects that, as always, take longer than expected and go over budget and these nations incur billions of dollars in debt that they'll most likely default on. Also, these Chinese companies only hire other Chinese companies to build the infrastructure. So they're importing hundreds of thousands, if not Millions of Chinese workers into these African nations. They only hire their own. It's just like the hood here in America. These workers come to build the infrastructure, end up opening other businesses, restaurants, etc. and the Chinese end up prospering.

This may be anecdotal, but my dad and brother still live in Liberia and they tell me that a lot of the infrastructure that the Chinese build their is really sub par. over the last couple years, they told me about multiple bridges that have completely collapsed.

 

[layziegunts]

Oh y’all wanna know what they been doing to Jamaica?

They came and built out highway that goes around the whole damn country, the one catch is that wherever the highway touch 1 mile north and 1 mile south they technically own the land. Guess where the Chinese decide to build it, along the coast by our beachfront.

Chine technically now owns tourism in Jamaica . I swear black people are the biggest idiots on Earth

 

[layziegunts]

She's white.

Bro, find yourself a nice black girl if you wanna be down for your people.

You can’t sleep white, and talk black

 

[sugafree]

We the living race of Ls...

 

[atlsfinest]

Bro, find yourself a nice black girl if you wanna be down for your people.

You can’t sleep white, and talk black

Lol says who? I'm going to date/marry whoever I want and speak about whatever topics I find important.

I swear I hear people in the conscious community say that phrase so often. I don't understand how it's contradictory for me to love someone of A different race but also care about issues that affect black people and the country where I'm from.

At the end of the day, I'm not trash-talking black women, all of my exes have been black. I love black women it's just that the woman I love isn't.

 

[Mark Antony]

That stockholm syndrome. You beat down people long enough, you're gonna run off with the first person to offer a glass of water.

 

[tokes99]

Pretty much. The Chinese come in under the guise of being Good Samaritans who just want to help these poor African countries but the end up funding these very expensive infrastructure projects that, as always, take longer than expected and go over budget and these nations incur billions of dollars in debt that they'll most likely default on. Also, these Chinese companies only hire other Chinese companies to build the infrastructure. So they're importing hundreds of thousands, if not Millions of Chinese workers into these African nations. They only hire their own. It's just like the hood here in America. These workers come to build the infrastructure, end up opening other businesses, restaurants, etc. and the Chinese end up prospering.

This may be anecdotal, but my dad and brother still live in Liberia and they tell me that a lot of the infrastructure that the Chinese build their is really sub par. over the last couple years, they told me about multiple bridges that have completely collapsed.

if anything i would think the chinese have been the most transparent in their 'partnering' with african countries out of mutual self-interest(s) rather than trying to couch it as try to help these 'poor african countries,' whereas 'western' countries might place conditions or at the very least levy criticisms of some of the corruption of these african nations, the chinese aren't really concerned as long as it doesn't interfere with their interests...a good deal of the infrastructure the Chinese are building is to make exporting goods/resources out of these nations easier or even viable.

to my mind, it has just been that too many of the leadership/power in these african nations are more interested in enriching themselves, families, friends, ethnic groups (#inthatorder) than any future considerations of the 'nation' or its 'people'