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Yo I actually called my sister downstairs to watch this segment. I wound up learning a lot from her and the program regarding hair.

We went on to watch episodes about bleaching skin and other stuff. Cool show, but they ain't teaching any of us something new. Good convo anyway.

By us I mean us in this thread. There are many NTers who could learn a thing or two from this series.
 
I wanted to add to my original post that Kwame Nkrumah decided to name Ghana after the ancient African empire, that would be found in modern day Mali and Mauritania, once they got independence. It was previously called the Gold Coast.
 
Random fact (I just saw homies post on panafricanism) but Kwame Ture lived in my hometown in Guinea when he was here. My parents actually knew him and he was in a relationship with Miriam Makeba, a South African singer turned activist. She stayed in my hometown for a while too.

Stokley Carmicheal chose the name Kwame Ture from the linking of the names of the first 2 African presidents after independence. Kwame Nkrumah (Ghana) and Sekou Toure (Guinea)

This all made complete sense because while Americans were going through the civil rights movement in the 50s, Africans were seeking and gaining independence, so these black activist often found refuge in newly founded African nations.

Oh and the west (England, France and The US) had big problems with this and shut these countries out (trade embargoes etc...) so the African nations became allies of Cuba and Russia. It made sense because they (Africans and black Americans) were socialists.

The 50s and 60s were a fertile global environment to foster panafricanism. Who knows what could have been.

Those who don't know about Sankara should learn about the man.
 
I absolutely love this picture of Marcus Garvey

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Yo I swear I wanted to touch on this. My pops was in Burkina Faso, studying English, when Sankara was killed in the 80s.

He had not so nice words to say about him. I disagree with him. Sankara was a guy that was getting Africans to invest in themselves. His agriculture programs were revolutionary for Africa in the 80s. He literally tried to make his country self sustaining, it was revolutionary back then and is now.

My pops basically thought he should've bowed down to the French and embraced their neocolinization. It was upsetting to hear. I get why he said it but nah we gotta at least fight.

A thing that black folks that aren't Africans from French colonies won't understand is how dirty the French treat you once you declare independence from them. Haiti isn't the way it is by random...their leaders share a lot of the blame but it was a country completely abandoned and admonished from the entire western world. Because they were the first to get independence.

Make no mistake, Haiti is the poorest nation in the Western Hemisphere on purpose.
 
Yo I swear I wanted to touch on this. My pops was in Burkina Faso, studying English, when Sankara was killed in the 80s.

He had not so nice words to say about him. I disagree with him. Sankara was a guy that was getting Africans to invest in themselves. His agriculture programs were revolutionary for Africa in the 80s. He literally tried to make his country self sustaining, it was revolutionary back then and is now.

My pops basically thought he should've bowed down to the French and embraced their neocolinization. It was upsetting to hear. I get why he said it but nah we gotta at least fight.

A thing that black folks that aren't Africans from French colonies won't understand is how dirty the French treat you once you declare independence from them. Haiti isn't the way it is by random...their leaders share a lot of the blame but it was a country completely abandoned and admonished from the entire western world. Because they were the first to get independence.

Make no mistake, Haiti is the poorest nation in the Western Hemisphere on purpose.
Pretty much. Haiti was considered ideal for merchants during the early 1800's because they didn't have rules and laws that governed trade, so merchants could have gone there to sell goods with no hinderance. It wasn't some trading capital of the world or Carribean, but it was respectable, however, America refused to recognize Haiti as a country and therefore helped suppress any potential business dealings taking place there. They intentionally isolated and punished the nation for breaking away from France. They tried to punish Cuba in similar fashion, but they managed to get allies and become somewhat self-sustaining, plus Castro wasn't gonna allow the country to go to hell.

On a side note, look at these "yessah, no sahs" shaking hands and taking pictures with this buffoon.

 
Without Haiti, The United States Would, In Fact, Be a ********
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https://www.thenation.com/article/without-haiti-the-united-states-would-in-fact-be-a-shythole/

It feels strange to me after so many years of thinking and writing about Haiti, to say nothing of simply being there, to have to rise to the country’s defense against a fool. But that fool is the president of the United States, so let’s start with first things first.

It goes without saying that Donald Trump knows nothing about history. But those who do have heard of the Louisiana Purchase, the incredible deal President Jefferson struck with France to buy the giant piece of land, 828,000 square miles of river and breadbasket, that stretches from what is now the Canadian border down to New Orleans and the delta. Without this territory, the United States would never have become a continental power nor, subsequently, a great global power. Jefferson got it at a bargain-basement price: $250 million, in current dollars, doubling the size of the country for less than 3 cents per acre.

You may ask what this has to do with Haiti (although any president with a competent staff would have this information at his fingertips). Here’s the answer, White House staff: Napoleon wanted to sell this fabulously valuable piece of New World real estate because for more than a decade he had failed to put down the startling slave revolution in the French colony of Haiti, losing two-thirds of French forces there in the process.

The First Consul (that’s Napoleon, Mr. President) could see the writing on the wall. France was pushed to the limit of its military and financial means by the Haitian uprising, and the future emperor (NB: also Napoleon) had lost his taste for further involvement in the Americas. He sold us Louisiana. Then on January 1, 1804, Haiti declared its independence from France, and by extension, from white men like Donald Trump.

So it is the courage and tenacity of the rebellious slaves of Haiti that created the United States as we know it. Score one for the ********.

Haitian history is full of many other amazing facts, not least that it can claim to have spawned the Americas’ first successful freedom fighters, the Cacos, who waged a sporadic but unstoppable guerilla war against the US Marine Occupation that began in 1915. Along with popular opinion in the US, they finally forced the Americans out in 1934.

Nonetheless, the Marines had done their damage. While improving Haiti’s infrastructure, the occupation opened the country up for “foreign investment,” which meant, essentially, the severe exploitation (including chain gangs) of Haitian labor, the appropriation of lands by US groups, the manipulation (which continues) of Haitian elections, the takeover of the lucrative Haitian sugar industry and of Haitian banks, and a national move away from self-sufficient subsistence agriculture into a cash economy that continues to be responsible for repeated food shortages and economic decline. How to become a shythole: the Americans will help.

I could go on in this vein, but I won’t. I’m pointing a finger at the United States because I’m responding to the US president. France, after Napoleon, also had a hand in Haiti’s decline. Emmanuel Macron, however, has yet to call the country un trou de merde—and I doubt he ever will.

Finally, I want to write personally about Haiti, the experience of Haiti as a place to visit, to see, be in, live in.

Haiti is what Ronald Reagan was dreaming of when he suggested that shrinking the state would allow the business sector to move in and replace government functions in a market economy. Haiti has a vestigial state. There is no national health care, no social security, no pensions, very little taxation, very few labor regulations, a tiny national coffer. This is the direction in which Reagan pushed us and which Trump and his people continue to move us. There is very little organized sanitation, unemployment is the norm, housing is less than substandard, and electricity is delivered in a capricious and severely limited fashion. Poverty means that people have to live day by day, earning a goud here and agoud there. It means that individual and family plans for the future are nearly impossible to make. Many of the ablest Haitians have immigrated to the United States and Canada, though Trump apparently does not appreciate their many contributions to our economy as doctors, engineers, attorneys, academics, dentists, accountants, etc.

Haitians feel the lack of a state every day and night, but they still rise indomitably to the task of living full lives. It’s rare to see a Haitian hanging around, at least in Port-au-Prince. Everyone is constantly on the move, trying to find work and make a buck. There is poetry being written and music being played. At night, students go out and sit under the light of street lamps to study for tests. Haitians are huge into basketball and ecstatic when one of their players makes it to the NBA, as several have. Haitian literature over the centuries is full of masterpieces. Dany Laferrière, a novelist of Haitian descent, was recently admitted to the elite Académie Française. Alexandre Dumas, author of The Three Musketeers, was Haitian, as was the naturalist John James Audubon.

In the camps set up by Haitians after the earthquake that struck exactly eight years ago today, I sat around with teenage boys eager to play tapes for me of the music they’d recorded. During a tropical storm, I had a camp dinner of sardines and tomatoes cooked outside a tent over a charcoal fire. I’ve watched cockfights in small stadiums, and Vodou ceremonies in the earthquake rubble. I’ve seen the dazzling paintings by Haitian masters on the walls of museums (now crumbled) and churches (also now crumbled). I’ve seen a young boy who lost both his hands and both his forearms in the earthquake learn to use prostheses and also learn to accept the care of his extended family in the countryside. I’ve seen countless examples of Haitian solidarity and community, and of course of the human hunger to learn and grow and better one’s fortunes.

The island itself is physically beautiful, with pure white beaches and majestic mountains, and a capital city and provincial metropolis that are both captivating, each in its own way. Trump might not think so, because in every way, Haiti does not resemble his universe of Trump Tower and Mar-a-Lago. The country is almost entirely lacking in gilt and gold-plate.

But it still shines.

 
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I like what she said, but I'm still watching that Black Panther movie 2-3 times.
On another note, I'm reading her comments and this is one thing that irritates me with the woke crowd. They love to name call other blacks that don't believe in the same stuff they believe in. It's as if calling somebody a bed wench or **** makes them feel powerful or better.
 
A lot of these white folks don't give a damn or know anything about MLK. They know the "I have a dream" speech and that's it. They hated him when he was alive, it's been proven that the FBI killed him. They don't talk about how he wanted black people to get reparations and he was going hard for black owned businesses. That's not the story line they wanna push.

"He had a dream, he wanted black kids and white kids to play together, the end".

I always kinda look at white folks sideways when they "he was a great man". I be thinking would you think he was so great if you knew he wanted black people to have a economic system?
 
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