Black Culture Discussion Thread

I disagree with part of his voting stance. There are just some people and issues voting for. There's no way you can deny it. There are literally open white supremacists that govern some of these states. I hate this no voting stance prominent black speakers have. It's not the means to end our sufferings but it is a tool that can be useful.
 
continuation vs evolution, tomatoe vs. tomato...more to the point is that cultures diverge, not that they can't converge at some point, but the differences are not inconsequential; that distinctness does not preclude cooperation, tho if it were to really scale it does seems like going in with a real appreciation for those differences as well as the similarities would be necessary rather than just expecting the the like experience(s) colonialism, color, and cultural originations to just connect...

It really isn't that though. Continuation and evolution are two different concepts. One implies that there is no real connection and changes occurred in isolation while the other affirms a connection along with a living tradition. The differences you highlight all stem from historical moments from the same source. While the manifestations to these forces were different, the connections that brings them together are still the same. As it presently stands, the differences don't override the commonalities unless you want them to.
 
First you said it's not gonna happen like poof. Now you saying he's running in place when he's been setting examples and writing books for decades. :lol:

Aight man.

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what part of the phrase running in place do you not understand?

running in place suggests you’re getting nowhere. aka, the things that need to happen in order for his dream to materialize are not getting done.

if those things are not being done after 40 years of trying, its not going to just *poof* happen all of a sudden.

there is no first i said, then i said.

it all runs together.


how old are you?
your arguments and understanding of this topic is extremely juvenile.
 
peep this interview at the 17:40 mark



the interviewer says, we already have...
- money
- resources
- businesses
- stores
- franchises

then asks Dr Anderson what is the missing link??

the FIRST thing Dr Anderson says is sense of community.
aka come together
aka get on the same page
aka agree on everything

then he goes into a list of 3 things we need first
1. economic structure
2. code of conduct
3. he never got to it

he thinks economic structure will just fall out of the sky to be put in place without an education in economics

im not against his plan, im saying the plan as is is destined to fail. one small tweak and it could work.



here, ill make it simple...

if you’re the new coach of a basketball team and the tesm has no idea how to play basketball, you can teach them how to be a team all day long, they have to learn the basics of the game first.


Dr Anderson is the new coach going onand on about how we dont know how to play basketball. then proceeds to try and make us a team.....lol

not to mention making us a team all while giving us a history lesson on why we will never be a team because of systematic racism.

this has been his approach for 40 years

cmon now
 
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what part of the phrase running in place do you not understand?

running in place suggests you’re getting nowhere. aka, the things that need to happen in order for his dream to materialize are not getting done.

if those things are not being done after 40 years of trying, its not going to just *poof* happen all of a sudden.

there is no first i said, then i said.

it all runs together.


how old are you?
your arguments and understanding of this topic is extremely juvenile.


I'm not even making a argument. :lol


All I said was he's not contradicting himself. You the one that seem lost and confused.


Again, all he's saying is what needs to happen vs what's going on. **** ain't rocket science. All this other stuff you saying is just rambling.
 
We don't need everybody to agree on everything, just a good amount to be on the same page. When other groups are fighting for certain rights they step to these politicians for things specifically for them. They don't include black americans. While a lot of black americans are scared to ask for specific things, don't wanna "offend" other people. We need specific things because we've been specifically targeted for hundreds of years.


And the main thing I took away from Claud Anderson is you're never gonna get anything done by voting if you don't have a economic base. It don't matter who you for when you have no money to back a politician, you have no power.

to some extent it really comes down to that fact, other groups (have & continue to) experience some targeting as well as negative stereotyping but, to my mind anyway, not nearly as violently, or in such visceral and vitriolic ways...which maybe goes some ways to explain the disparity between groups, because, and i've been thinking about this ever since reading that malcolm gladwell piece 'black like them,' part of what is going on is just the perception of what blackness is both external to & internally with black folk. and how that external perception affects our own, which is sometimes how i understand these critiques/prescriptions of 'what black people need to do'

i used to think that the mentality of people willing to uproot themselves from all they've known for some possible opportunity in a foreign place was almost like a self-selective group, and while there maybe some grain of truth to that it could really be out of their control completely. one things people point to is how well, comparatively, the children of immigrant blacks do but then, according to the data, in as little as a generation their children's children do no better than 'native' black americans...could it be that in one generation to the next that as they became more american their values and the things that made them successful changed some, almost certainly...but could it also be that now that have become more american that they are perceived differently by society? i think about this when i hear these theories about the asians (chinese/japanese/koreans more specifically --- also indians might be an interesting exception that prove the rule as they tend to be more professionals than entrepreneurs?), because it doesn't seem that the things that are said to be necessary for black folks to control more of our own destiny are in fact all that necessary for other groups...is it really that these other groups have some understanding we don't, or are other things more at play?? like the systematic view of black folks; which isn't to say there isn't our own agency to fix what we need to about our communities/selves...

you’re mistaken, thats not what he’s saying.

Claud’s stance is that we should do as other cultures do and just BUY the politicians. buying the politicians will give us control within our communities of the police/ courts. then an economy will give us control over the media and schools.



it is a bit of facetious question but given the fact that 'buying politicians' is explicitly very illegal, what does that really mean tho?

It really isn't that though. Continuation and evolution are two different concepts. One implies that there is no real connection and changes occurred in isolation while the other affirms a connection along with a living tradition. The differences you highlight all stem from historical moments from the same source. While the manifestations to these forces were different, the connections that brings them together are still the same. As it presently stands, the differences don't override the commonalities unless you want them to.

yo, i can't call it...allowing that they are in a strict definitional sense different, the functional outcome is basically the same; something can be on a continuum such that the present thing is both unrecognizable to its past version as well as it eventual future version (some might say this about modern day christianity), saying it continued or evolved, might be a matter of perspective...besides whether it is a continuation or evolved is somewhat irrelevant to the point that they are now obviously different things, living tradition and all. its not about overriding commonalities but the differences matter, because ultimately humans aren't all that different; tho we had/have much conflict over the minutia of those differences. you could maybe just as much argue that culture is kinda the things we don't do as it is the things we do practice...

this doesn't mean black folk among the diaspora can't/shouldn't/won't find solidarity with 'africa' just that i don't think it as necessary for either the black diaspora or 'africa' and in some ways the expectation itself kinda unrealistic
 
All this other stuff you saying is just rambling.

im sure it does sound that way to a simpleton.

hence the reason why you claim to not have an argument, then state the argument you claim doesnt exist in the very next sentence.


I'm not even making a argument. :lol:


All I said was he's not contradicting himself.

....but you dont have an argument.
 
im sure it does sound that way to a simpleton.

hence the reason why you claim to not have an argument, then state the argument you claim doesnt exist in the very next sentence.




....but you dont have an argument.
Homie, you not even smart enough to understand when I said all we need is enough people on the same page. You think that means all black people.

You a ramble *** _. :lol
 
it is a bit of facetious question but given the fact that 'buying politicians' is explicitly very illegal, what does that really mean tho?

it means the system is broken

it means the game is rigged

it means that if we want to compete in this rigged, broken system, we have play the game like they do.

is it illegal?
sure.
but we all know thats what has to happen to get things to work in your favor.
 
you know?

but ole Maximus Meridius Maximus Meridius is slow clapping for 40 years of no results from a senile old man that refuses to rethink his approach after 40 years of nothing.

our culture refuses to explore solutions that will produce results TODAY in favor of ‘staying the corse’ to nowhere
nah idk but what bro said is the truth, seeing my pops pop and my pops go thru the struggle and see them say “it’s ok we’ll make changes” for over 90 years im off that ****
 
Them cats on that island play zero games. I done heard how they cut up them fishermen like 40 years ago or sum
 
Them cats on that island play zero games. I done heard how they cut up them fishermen like 40 years ago or sum

I respect it. They know what happens when you open your door to white people. They ain't bothering nobody, minding they business so leave 'em alone. I heard America won't drop bombs on them cuz it might cause a natural disaster. That must be true cuz America loves bombing people.
 
I respect it. They know what happens when you open your door to white people. They ain't bothering nobody, minding they business so leave 'em alone. I heard America won't drop bombs on them cuz it might cause a natural disaster. That must be true cuz America loves bombing people.
To be fair, they don't care what race you are.
 
yea the sentenalise have just killed anyone that has tried to get on the island. I don’t even think the US would have the grounds to go and apprehend anyone on the island as just taking pictures of it is a crime punishable of 3 years in prison in India. Cats been warned for like the past 100 years not to go on that island.
 
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