Black Culture Discussion Thread

Bruno isn't black on paper and not all(or most don't) Puerto Rican's are black or identify as black. Like @sugafree said those are 2 completely different cultures and mentalities that just so happen to cohabitate and cross paths frequently.
Africans weren't taken to Puerto Rico during slavery?
 
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Bruno joint tricky man...bc what if this man really did grow up with James brown, mike and Aaron Hall blasting throughout the house? He can’t play respect to that lane of music? I mean he’s always paying respect.

Homegirl Saren was letting Bruno have it tho. lol.

Called my mans a wedding singer
 


this tweet thread.. :rofl:

sorry but bashing on bruno is a ******* joke.
 
my whole thing is if dude is out here wholesale culture vulturing then how much appreciation makes up for how much money he makes?
 


this tweet thread.. :rofl:

sorry but bashing on bruno is a ****ing joke.

The only thing I know Mars for is Uptown Funk. But I just found out this dude donated $1 million to Flint, MI less than a year ago.

I can think of many culture "vultures" who were pretty much silent on issues affecting the Black community.
 
I understand Black folks anger with Bruno Mars, but I think it's a misdirection. Bruno has always given credit to African Americans for paving the way for him and creating his sound and style. I think the bigger issue is that the industry has a found way to sell black cultural products without Black folk and people are all too fine with consuming them. There is an entire history and legacy behind the theft and exploitation of black music and culture. Bruno is an easy target because he's visible and no one really knows the power players pulling the strings behind the scenes.

And I also think alot of this goes back to white validation and acceptance. You can see this from #Oscarssowhite to #Blackrepresentation matters from the BP movie. There is a deep rooted desire to be validated by white people and their institutions. If people feel like other artists are being overlooked, I'd rather spend more time on promoting and supporting the artists I think are dope than worrying about Bruno Mars.
 
Still my thing is bruh takes your whole act. Songs, clothes, dance moves. Every album he recycles another era. I would say the same thing if Usher did it. Nothing wrong with being influenced but you gotta add your own flavor to it. The G-Funk era was sampling George Clinton and putting their own creative edge to it. It's nothing creative about what Bruno is doing.


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Yeah keep that negativity outta here.
 
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i dont know man,
how do you tell all races NOT black that they need special expressed permission to make money off anything within our culture all because we dont support our own and cant figure out how to monetize it ourselves?

the whole thing sounds ridiculous, arrogant, and unrealistic
 
my whole thing is if dude is out here wholesale culture vulturing then how much appreciation makes up for how much money he makes?

this is where pop culture/slang just confuses the issue for me, i feel like the way i understand cultural appropriation is different than being a "culture vulture," but i think these are used interchangeably? isn't the latter deemed to be exploitative whereas the former is more about credit given? what & who qualifies as "culture vulture" and would people want done about it really?

I understand Black folks anger with Bruno Mars, but I think it's a misdirection. Bruno has always given credit to African Americans for paving the way for him and creating his sound and style. I think the bigger issue is that the industry has a found way to sell black cultural products without Black folk and people are all too fine with consuming them. There is an entire history and legacy behind the theft and exploitation of black music and culture. Bruno is an easy target because he's visible and no one really knows the power players pulling the strings behind the scenes.

And I also think alot of this goes back to white validation and acceptance. You can see this from #Oscarssowhite to #Blackrepresentation matters from the BP movie. There is a deep rooted desire to be validated by white people and their institutions. If people feel like other artists are being overlooked, I'd rather spend more time on promoting and supporting the artists I think are dope than worrying about Bruno Mars.

i agree, in part, with your 1st point though i'd dispute the extent to which black folk are cool with it...and while it would be hard to deny there is an aspect of white validation at play, i don't think it is the main motivation it's just that i think people do tend to spend more energy talking about transgressions, perceived & real, than the stuff they like (i mean we see this all the time, people will say bear good things to you but the one negative thing sticks out and hurts more than the sum of the good ones) #wordtomonique

Still my thing is bruh takes your whole act. Songs, clothes, dance moves. Every album he recycles another era. I would say the same thing if Usher did it. Nothing wrong with being influenced but you gotta add your own flavor to it. The G-Funk era was sampling George Clinton and putting their own creative edge to it. It's nothing creative about what Bruno is doing.

you probably would call usher a biter, or unoriginal but would you call him a culture appropriator or vulture, demand he name his inspiration, and insist he highlight/put on other artists tho ?(didn't he play a role in bieberveli's career?)
 
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you probably would call usher a biter, or unoriginal but would you call him a culture appropriator or vulture, demand he name his inspiration, and insist he highlight/put on other artists tho ?(didn't he play a role in bieberveli's career?)

I ain't call Bruno that either but I do think the conversation is necessary.
 
Not Brunos fault that most of our younger black r&b acts want to be everything, but singers. He saw a lane that was wide open and ran with it. He has my support until he does something outrageous.
Think I'll skip this particular Grapevine video. This Bruno Mars topic has been beat to death & I already know what responses will come out of the cast members mouths.
 
thats not what Culture Vulture means.

seasoned vet seasoned vet this post was so damn insightful

i mean really the way you pointed that out and fully explained just genius

this is where pop culture/slang just confuses the issue for me, i feel like the way i understand cultural appropriation is different than being a "culture vulture," but i think these are used interchangeably? isn't the latter deemed to be exploitative whereas the former is more about credit given? what & who qualifies as "culture vulture" and would people want done about it really?

listen to me his "appreciation"/"appropriation" whatever you wanna call it dont add up to how much money dude is making

if bill gates ripped off your idea and said thanks i appreciate it as he makes a billion off you does that seem right?
 
listen to me his "appreciation"/"appropriation" whatever you wanna call it dont add up to how much money dude is making

if bill gates ripped off your idea and said thanks i appreciate it as he makes a billion off you does that seem right?

who bruno should pay? how much? and for how long? also what did he take that didn't exist in the public domain already?

if bill gates ripped off my idea i'd use every recourse to get what i was owed, the onus would be on me to prove it was my idea though; but the comparison is off because art doesn't work like that and the thing with the idea of cultural appropriation is no one "owns" culture, it rarely has a definite individual source, and there is no one you can pay where the consensus will say, "nah they're cool because they paid ______"

as a related aside, music, and art generally, does have mechanisms to protect against explicit stealing and most creators are aware of how to circumvent them...i feel like that "blurred lines" lawsuit set a bad precedent in terms of actually penalizing something for copying the "spirit" or "groove" of a song, because now it leaves up to a subjective feeling and not a concrete proof of sampling and/or interpolation(s), putting slight twists on things is the foundation of much creative endeavors...
 
So much other things we can be talking about
Other than Bruno mars appropriating
Black culture

like what bruv? #youhadthemic...

the bruno mars bit is just a point of reference, the larger topic is about cultural appropriation generally; which does touch on other things...
 
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