Black Culture Discussion Thread

[lolcomin]

How old are you fam?

18

 

[victor page]

This current generation of kids are completely removed of knowledge of self. Even on NT...most of the ones that say **** like "they don't have any roots inn Africa" are 21 and younger.

 

[lolcomin]

I lived in Nigeria for 2 years and got to know my roots, my culture,  where i came from, my parents backgrounds, fam that lived around there

etc

I'm even writing a paper/speech on it too

 

[Quincy McCall]

It's ok to be different, a certain attitude doesn't make you black, but if you disassociate yourself from being black- that might be another thing, if you are in fact "black".

Be true to yourself, and don't let people discolor you

 

[spacedoodoo]

 
I'm not trying to be self hating, but to tell the truth, I've never really gotten along well with most other African-Americans. I was always to "white" and that has stuck with me as i've grown up so that it's wierd when i associate with most of them if they aren't "whitewashed". I grew up in the valley of CA, so i was mainly around white people and didn't really have a major black on black confrontation until 7th grade.

I also don't go out of my way/try to date African American females anymore since they stopped giving me play/i'm too "white".

Just what i wanted to say

Experienced this a few times myself. Not really with black men but a few with the girls my age. Im only 17 so maybe it's just the immaturity talking.

 

[julius wrek]

"Historically, if you look back all the way back to slavery, say, for instance, any time there had ever been any organized black activities just for human rights, just for recognition of peoplehood, there has always been an concerted effort, either through the community or through the government, to destroy whether it was the maroon communities or whether it was a black community, Wall Street, say, for instance, in Oklahoma, whatever--or Rosewood; you name it--community that stood up and declared that they were humans and they needed to be treated like other human beings and they was going to take care of theirself, those communities were always destroyed.

I think all the efforts historically in America has been that white supremacy have organized to destroy any real effort for black people to gain power and gain control over their community, because there's an economic relationship that means that if black people gain power and gain control of their community, white people don't get the benefit from that."

 

[knowledgebones72]

I take Gambino's side in most of this discussion....

In a very abbreviated state... this is a discussion on how black people are limited in things simply due to race & expectations of certain races.

I saw this earlier and really felt what Bino was saying.

just wanted it to be on this page as well.

 

[knowledgebones72]

I think "New Black" is a reaction to this thing that's been happening for at least the past two generations.

Whenever you have a Black kid who's from an affluent family, or even just not from the hood, or if they're in the hood but they're parents are raising them to speak and act differently, they tend to be dismissed and ostracized as not really being Black.

It hapened to me alot. When I was living in a really bad neighborhood (For those Maryland heads, I lived in Pioneer City projects in Severn out in Anne Arundel County) I would go over to my friend's house and their parents would say to the kid IN FRONT OF ME "I don't want you hanging out with this kid anymore. He talks White and people are gonna think you're soft. I don't like how he talks. Why does he talk like that? I don't like that. Etc." These are grown adults telling their kids not to hang out with other kids in the neighborhood because they "talk white". That was a huge hit to my self esteem I'm not gonna lie.

Then I moved to PG County, which is the burbs, but I realized that Black kids in the burbs have the same complex. Since being from the burbs and having educated or well off parents is not accepted in the hood, all these kids I went to school with made sure to live as hood a life as possible in their million dollar homes. They went to the hood as much as possible, honored people who lived in the hood, and were straight up embarassed at they're parent's success. Alot of the people I went to high school with ended up murdered in the very projects they wished they were from. Alot of chicks I know are strippers in DC and Baltimore now, being as ratchet as they knew they should have been. Or they're just super regular living in the actual hood because they didn't add to their family's success.

I don't consider myself "New Black" or whatever simply because I'm not a joiner. I'm Knowledgebones72, I'm a book editor who works in SoHo who loves Air Max 1's and will take your broad if I've got a few gin gimlets in me.

I've been a 5%er, and saw through the BS of the people I was getting my lessons from. I'm sure if I ended up associating myself with this "New Black" movement, i'll find some reactionary agression toward those who said we weren't "Black" enough back in the day. So i'm just gonna do me, and hope that through my life and my work I can play whatever role possible in pushing the culture forward, and helping my people get ahead.

 

[301216baller]

knowledge dropped a gem repped

 

[am1x90xnike]

I wonder if them ****** up there know they from Oakland...ain't now amount of dishekis gonna change that. Cats try so hard to make up an identity.

 

[blazersfan]

I wonder if them ****** up there know they from Oakland...ain't now amount of dishekis gonna change that. Cats try so hard to make up an identity.

at least they try , clown *** *****

 

[am1x90xnike]

You know how I try? Teaching at elementary schools, working with the innocence project to get brothas off death row, working with church groups..and I do it all in some air maxes and button ups...so who's really doing more for black folk, clown *** *****?

Because I'm not wearing wood medallions and ugly *** shirts, I'm not helping...that's that shallow bs that ****** are to self righteous to see.

Close your mouth, get your head outta your *** and go do something with your life, clown *** *****, no dishiki gonna make you African, no open toed sandals gonna help the movement, clown *** *****. Grow up.


I hate that we gotta reach back to some fantasy time to make up a culture, when our culture is sitting right at dining room tables, right outside your door. Stop making **** up and be proud of who you actually are.

 

[Rootin4EverybodyBlack]

I caught the "talks white", "oreo", etc jokes when I was younger.....ironically, the majority of it was from white kids tho.

Never, really had a problem getting along with black folk, no matter what their background is.

*'Ye shrug*

 

[blazersfan]

You know how I try? Teaching at elementary schools, working with the innocence project to get brothas off death row, working with church groups..and I do it all in some air maxes and button ups...so who's really doing more for black folk, clown *** *****?

Because I'm not wearing wood medallions and ugly *** shirts, I'm not helping...that's that shallow bs that ****** are to self righteous to see.

Close your mouth, get your head outta your *** and go do something with your life, clown *** *****, no dishiki gonna make you African, no open toed sandals gonna help the movement, clown *** *****. Grow up.

I dont give a **** what you do, clown *** *****...you must have me mistaken for someone who do.

Do what you do, dont judge people who want to identify with being african, clown *** *****

 

[am1x90xnike]

Then shut your mouth. Keep it moving clown *** *****. Prolly ain't never been to the hood. Couldn't identify black culture if you got curbed stomped with some buttas. ****** like you hurt more than you help. Old clown *** ******.

Swear, tell cats that I love me some me they look at me like I'm crazy. How can anyone else love us if we don't love ourselves?

 

[blazersfan]

someone who joined a white frat is telling me i dont identify with black culture? lol..come to S.E. DC and tell me im not from the hood, clown *** *****. I'm college educated, born to african parents but I cant identify? *****, you been a clown, troll *** *****

You can say you do this and that but you not helping ****. I been in the streets, doing all kinds of ****, and me just earning my B.S. this yr shows the young ****** that knew my past that there is more to life than the negative **** they see on the daily basis. I go back to my hood and help, keep attending your church groups tho.  A ***** ***** like you couldn't relate.

 

[am1x90xnike]

Hahahahahahahahahahaha...a bs that's so cute. Real talk congrats that.


That's that ish I'm talking about, I joined a white frat, proud of. Had a great time. Read my posts about WHY I joined a white frat and tell me it isn't off some real ish, but real only recognize real and your a stranger to me.

****** like you spend more time telling everyone else how to be black. Reread my posts on this forum, from alcoholic fathers, to friends running off the ride high on pcp, to aids, cancer, gang violence. I grew up between moco and bmore...so don't tell me how hood you are, my step father went to school in southeast and my grandma lived in their til she passed. Grow the **** up.

Btw, if you have two African parents, you're African you ain't a *****, that's science pleghboi. Spend so much time calling everyone else out because you went to college and think it makes you 'better' *****, college don't mean ish. It means you paid a **** ton for a really nice piece of paper. Loving yourself, loving your culture, that's what counts.

Sorry, I'm not in here talking that 'let's protest for ferguson' I'm talking that 'let's protest for gerrymandering' but that's not sexy, I don't get to show how black I am in Instagram when I talk about police training or teaching kids trades instead of forcing college down their throat. I'm working everyday to actually effect change, and walk by and laugh at all y'all shallow ****** who judge me because I don't hate white people.

But, like I always say, you need some legal
Help, contracts, llc, criminal, family...holla. Ill hook you up with the NT discount.

 

[knowledgebones72]

AfroPunk is really ill in terms of the aesthetic is brings to our generation of Blacks.

Plus the chicks who go are all down to do shrooms and get their dreads tugged on, nahmean.

But for real, it all is part of the culture. How we dress is a representation of our interests and sensibilities.

Don't hate on people rocking Africa medallions and dashiki's, because it comes out of a love and actual interest in our roots.

The other end of the spectrum is blonde weaves and blue eye contacts.

My personal style is the Jason Sudekis look, but that's neither here nor there.

 

[knowledgebones72]

The whole "who is an n word and who isn't" debate is a useless one, by the way.

Division shouldn't EVER be part of this discussion if we're really trying to push the culture forward.

And identity is something we definitely can make up. It was stolen from us, so why not come up with some new cool **** whenever we feel like it?

People be too quick to make things an either/or situation.

 

[3stheluckynumbe]

Focus less on who's more of a *****, and more on being a better man. There was really good discussion until y'all decided to go back and forth about what exactly?

This lack of focus plagues the black people, and until we do something about this, no movement will ever succeed.

Y'all are both brothers, BLACK MEN. Act as such

 

[am1x90xnike]

The issue is, 1) them cats look at me crazy when I tell them I'm not rocking that. I've worn enough of that as a child. 2) the reason why I make a big deal about being a ***** is because Africans don't like us, and it creates a fantasy in folks heads, dismissing the years of progress and culture we've FOUGHT and died for IN AMERICA. You love Africa so much? Bounce. Go there live there...straight up. I'm fighting for the people here, for my culture here. It's not about 'you can't be in our club' it's 'if you like their club, join them, we working over here'

 

[3stheluckynumbe]

As far as a dashiki and dreads... that doesn't make you any more black, there are Africans that don't even wear dashikis anymore.

 

[blazersfan]

Lmao what you mean dont tell you how hood I am when you said I aint never been to the hood? 

And no one is saying I'm better than anyone because I have a degree, but where I'm from and what I was doing in high school, its a blessing to be alive let alone have a degree.  

My beef with you is your down play of folks practicing or wanting to identify with their african roots. You seem to think that is a bad thing, and you think it isn't necassry for black people. You can keep that mentality to yourself and your white friends. Nothing wrong with ****** wanting to learn more about who they are.

 

[blazersfan]

Dude has a hatred towards Africans, thats what the bs he spews stems from.

This dude is trolling, and I'm still wondering if he is even black, real talk.

 

[am1x90xnike]

Don't hate Africans, never said that...like ever, that's NT making ish up. I look at Africa the sand way I look at Europe or China, learn about THEIR culture, take from it what you can, but it's bs to build your identity around it. I look at those kids in dashikis the way I look at black kids who rock Chinese gear, that's your personal style, but don't forget who you actually are.

It is useless for MY culture, because were not African. I'm a Negro. Loud and proud. Don't need to reach across the ocean to be proud of MY heritage.

Explain to me why it's beneficial? Or at least more beneficial than identifying with your grandma? Like do you know the history and purpose old the Afrocentric movement? Read up on it and how it was reactionary, born out of the civil rights movement in the late sixties....how retry much after Martin, a bunch of black folk decided they were African...how the whole movement is made up. College boi read up on that.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afrocentrism

http://www.nytimes.com/1991/08/11/us/afrocentrism-balancing-or-skewing-history.html


And I found this, after I edited my post, why? Because I spent about 6mos of my life super Afrocentric...then decided to read up on it instead of letting the interwebz control my thoughts.