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apples and oranges kid.
for me, pac. never really felt biggie.
for me, pac. never really felt biggie.
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Originally Posted by 22 Deuces 22
B.I.G. was light-years ahead of 2pac in terms of raw lyricism.
co-signOriginally Posted by Starvin Harlem
Women always pick 2Pac . . .
But BIG was a better Lyricist/MC
Pac was a better Rapper/Artist
Name me a BIG Verse better than this
There isn't a verse better than that.
Im not getting into this all that much but Victory verse is better than that^ hands down
I respectfully disagree
Dude, listen to hit em up, that track alone murdered the whole east coast!!!!Originally Posted by PackersGotMe
Ok so I know this topic will have controversy but while arguing with my girlfriend over this I couldn't leave it alone. I know both artist have there differences but were in the same era so this can be debated. In the end who was better.. your opinion..? Please include tracks, verses, albums that will support your opinion.
I choose my man BIG.. simple fact ..
"Heart throb, never, black and ugly as ever
However, i stay coogi down to the socks
Rings and watch filled with rocks
And my jam knock in the mitsubishi
Girls pee pee when they see me
Navajos creep me in they tee pee"
So is a dude like mos def. Who gets little of the love Pac gets Because fans just love (yes ho mo, for the young one's) Pac's sensitive thug image. Big was an image too though, so I'm not picking sides. Both of them are far to celebrated IMO (flame on).
But let's be 100 fellas................ Both of them were not making the best music of their time. Early-Mid 90's had many, many albums that spoke to me way more than either of these dudes. Both on an emotional level & an emcee level.
Let the flames begin by those who worship at the shrines of Pac & Big.
Why must you ALWAYS hate on Pac & Big?? How can you say Pac is a "sensative thug", its called being a human, Pac wasn't talkin about corny+@!* for you to use the term sensative, he was talking about sitting in prison and crying looking at pictures of his loved ones . . . That +@!* is very common,the hardest of the hard dudes be in prison crying in the middle of the night, that don't make them sensative or soft, Pac was the voice of that because hehad been through it too . . . I done been on the jack with homies in prison and cried myself, I done read letters from prison and cried, I saw my cousinsmother cry her eyes out during phone conversations when he was up a few years back.
As far as them not making THE BEST music, thats all subjective, but if you wanna keep it 100 when you talk about the best music from the 90s, no matter whereyou're from, if Big and Pac arent a part of the conversation you're lying to yourself, not only was it some of the best music but it is some of themost memorable hip hop music to this very day . . .
Originally Posted by Starvin Harlem
As far as them not making THE BEST music, thats all subjective, but if you wanna keep it 100 when you talk about the best music from the 90s, no matter where you're from, if Big and Pac arent a part of the conversation you're lying to yourself, not only was it some of the best music but it is some of the most memorable hip hop music to this very day . . .
Why must you ALWAYS hate on Pac & Big?? How can you say Pac is a "sensative thug", its called being a human, Pac wasn't talkin about corny +@!* for you to use the term sensative, he was talking about sitting in prison and crying looking at pictures of his loved ones . . . That +@!* is very common, the hardest of the hard dudes be in prison crying in the middle of the night, that don't make them sensative or soft, Pac was the voice of that because he had been through it too . . . I done been on the jack with homies in prison and cried myself, I done read letters from prison and cried, I saw my cousins mother cry her eyes out during phone conversations when he was up a few years back.
As far as them not making THE BEST music, thats all subjective, but if you wanna keep it 100 when you talk about the best music from the 90s, no matter where you're from, if Big and Pac arent a part of the conversation you're lying to yourself, not only was it some of the best music but it is some of the most memorable hip hop music to this very day . . .
I'm not "hating" on anyone. But these dudes don't define that era for me. It's likea hip hop sin to criticize these dudes or something. Everyone else gets picked apart except these two. They get the all time-ultimate pass for some reason. Ijust don't see it that way.
They have become the Babe Ruth's of hip hop. They were great, but legitimate claims can & have been made for other dudes. Yet the general consensuswill always keep the them at the top. No matter what anyone else has or will do.
I'm not "hating" on anyone. But these dudes don't define that era for me. It's like a hip hop sin to criticize these dudes or something. Everyone else gets picked apart accept these two. They get the all time-ultimate pass for some reason. I just don't see it that way.
They have become the Babe Ruth's of hip hop. They were great, but legitimate claims can & have been made for other dudes. Yet the general consensus will always keep the them at the top. No matter what anyone else has or will do.
Ok we can both agree hip hop isn't getting any better . . . So how can you down 2 of the most memorable artist in its history?? . . . You're acting as if they were 2 of the best in a Joe Schmo era, there were some very good artist coming out at that time, and those 2 are deffinetly themost memorable and the most celebrated . . . And its beyond their image, because the music still lives on today, Makaveli (1996) & Life After Death (1997)are to this day 2 of the best peices of modern day hip hop music, their no deneying that . . . If 2 artist that have been dead atleast 10 years can still bethe source of the most relevant music today, can you really call that overrated?? I mean if they are "overrated", why don;t some of thse underrateddudes make something that will overshadow their music and or their influence and stop eating of their plates . . .
There are a lot of BIG Verses that are better than Nas' verses
and vice versa so what are you really saying?
and vice versa so what are you really saying?
Serious question...are you mentally ******ed or do you just read the first sentence of every paragraph?
Serious question...are you mentally ******ed or do you just read the first sentence of every paragraph?
This guy....what i am saying is this..you are saying BIGhad the greatest flow and delivery of all time on which I actually agree with you on..but I could say Nas is the deepest and most poetic rapper ever and Nasflow is no slouch either..on Illmatic and IWW his flow was ridiculous...so you are basing verses on just delivery and flow when there is alot more to a versethan that...so hermaphrodite I say this one more time...what are you really saying?
Originally Posted by ripfan816
2pac
then
Eazy-e
Then
BIG.
Originally Posted by Bad N fluenz
Dude, listen to hit em up, that track alone murdered the whole east coast!!!!Originally Posted by PackersGotMe
Ok so I know this topic will have controversy but while arguing with my girlfriend over this I couldn't leave it alone. I know both artist have there differences but were in the same era so this can be debated. In the end who was better.. your opinion..? Please include tracks, verses, albums that will support your opinion.
I choose my man BIG.. simple fact ..
"Heart throb, never, black and ugly as ever
However, i stay coogi down to the socks
Rings and watch filled with rocks
And my jam knock in the mitsubishi
Girls pee pee when they see me
Navajos creep me in they tee pee"