Ask a Cop whatever.....

[beh235]

I do have a question for the guys that are Anti-Police, does the Officer's complexion play a factor? Or just the position itself.

For example, OP stated he's Asian.... is he held to the same regard, if he makes a felony stop on a black person opposed to being a "White" Officer?

Legit question btw.

I'm not anti police, I'm anti a-hole police. The officer's complexion plays no role. I've had negative encounters with white and black officers alike. I have a family member that is a state trooper. He's been on the beat, a detective, and then became a state trooper. He's my cousin, but honestly, there was always something that rubbed me the wrong way about it, and that has a lot to do with his personality more so than him being a police officer.

 

[nt tbl]

What do you think of donald trump?

Are you into sneakers?

1. I'm indifferent. IMO the election last year was to vote for the best of two bad choices, so I honestly did not vote for president. Just propositions and local stuff.

2. I am into sneakers. Funny the other day I was in jail and another officer brought in a dude in handcuffs and he was wearing the new copper foamposites. He saw me stare at his shoes and he asked me if I liked them. I told him they were cool and I used to have them back when copper foams were first released. Then he said I was full of it because they just came out a couple days prior. Tried to school him on them coming out years ago but he wasn't having it.

 

[Kaleo15]

How ironic... the ones you were talking about were the "Dirty Coppers"

"Coppers" = Pigs

 

[nt tbl]

What's the usual reaction/thought process that an officer has when they are about to ticket someone and they are presented a PBA card from the person they are about to ticket?



-Drew

Never seen a PBA card. Usually though, if you're close enough to an LEO, when we run your plate it'll denote that you're family or related somehow and then generally its up to the officer/deputys discretion what they want to do. I have been ticketed by highway patrol for what its worth.

 

[nt tbl]

Oh yea ive always wanted to ask a cop this.

How much over the speed limit can i go on the highway without being pulled over?

You can be pulled over for going 66 in a 65. I generally go 78 on the freeway and haven't been stopped. I don't really know anybody that would pull somebody over for that. Since I'm not highway patrol I rarely will ever do traffic enforcement on the highway/freeway. I think I've only written 2 tickets on the freeway and the people I pulled over were doing like 95 and weaving through traffic kinda errantly. 

 

[nt tbl]

 
did u get picked on during HS?

Not necessarily. When I did stupid stuff I was the butt of jokes but thats all over. 

 

[dipsetgeneral]

What reasoning should i give the Chief of police in Massachusetts, that i want my License to Carry? I want my firearm ID so bad.

 

[nt tbl]

Have you ever checked any of them?
Also this.

1. Just that one time that I explained earlier in this thread, but then he explained himself and it made sense to me. Basically I thought my partner pulled over a dude for being black. I told him thats ****** up and his technical reasoning was BS. Then he told me it was because he was wearing all red in a crip neighborhood so he wanted to find out who he was.

2. Theres really no guideline to how far over a speed limit is OK and what is not OK. Its your discretion at that point. Usually if everybody is going the same speed then its whatever. Just don't be the guy that sticks out going way faster weaving through traffic.

 

[nt tbl]

 
I'm doing 75 on a 70 MPH highway. A state trooper blows by me doing at least 90 with no lights. Can I match his speed?

Probably. I wouldn't tail him though. And then you have to watch out for the next trooper.

 

[warriors510]

I'm indifferent to cops as I rarely run into them. I do not like cops at all that abuse their power and target people based on their race, but to the people that hate all cops, I dont get that. Like that has to be someone enforcing the law otherwise there will be chaos, no? Or should all civilians strap up themselves to protect themselves? If Oakland had no cops, people would be getting robbed left and right

 

[ggarvinxx3]

I do have a question for the guys that are Anti-Police, does the Officer's complexion play a factor? Or just the position itself.

For example, OP stated he's Asian.... is he held to the same regard, if he makes a felony stop on a black person opposed to being a "White" Officer?

Legit question btw.

Sure, first, I am not anti police. I support police officers on duty who do their jobs and protect and serve but we all know a lot of police officers do not do that. 

To answer your question, simply put, its not about the complexion. Its the system that we have in place today that allow cops (majority white or non black officers) to cause unjust harm and death to black people with impunity.

 

[shogun]

Y'all out here murdering innocent people. Kidnapping people. Torturing people. Ruining families. Destroying lives. I wish death on all of you.

Oh my bad that's not you doing all that right? And yet you all stand together and support eachother

Wow. Good job generalizing all of them.

 

[nt tbl]

1. Cops came to my door once on a complaint of assault. They showed up to my door after midnight. I felt like they were hoping to catch me either doing something illegal or slipping in a confused state to get me to say something to incriminate myself. I asked if I was under arrest and then told them to have a good night because I have nothing to say. As a cop, why the **** would YOU go to someone's house at that hour?

2. I once had a street fight and got grabbed from behind by a cop while I was defending myself. No idea it was a cop so I threw an elbow and subsequently got my *** beat by a group of cops. Should I have sued? Was I wrong for protecting myself?

3. When can a citizen disobey a cop (legally)? How do we prove we're not lying?

4. Why do cops lie so damn much? (reference the multiple shootings of unarmed black people)

5. With so many cops being domestic abusers why are y'all so quick to believe women in those scenarios? Y'all beat everybody up off duty. Why can't anyone else?

6. An obvious off duty cop tried to provoke me to fight by invading my space a month ago at a convenience store. After politely asking him to give me space I cursed him out and then he came with the bs trying to get me to swing. Had I fallen for it, would he have arrested me or shot me?

1. There was a complaint of an assault. Like somebody called the cops? Whether it was by somebody in your household or your next door neighbor hearing things through the wall, we'll come knock on your door any time of day.

2. Not wrong for protecting yourself. A battery though is a battery and say that was a good samaritan pulling you off and you elbowed him/her, then they can press charges against you. Would it stand up in court? Probably not. As far as the *** beating, based on your story I would say they're in the wrong but all I have to go off of is your word.

3. Disobey a cop? The only time that you can legally do that is during a consensual contact (where an officer just comes up to you just to contact you). They can say hi, you can say **** off, and then legally the cop has to leave. Now if they're contacting you because you fit the description of a burglar who just robbed a store down the street, then its a legal detention and you can't just walk away. As far as proving you're not lying the only real proof is evidence.

4. Really who doesn't lie? Not gonna lie......I've lied. After that, its the degree of your lie. Referencing the shooting of unarmed black people I can't speak for those officers. I can speculate but I really don't know. Fear maybe? They messed up and didn't know what to do? That's not a justification for any of those events by any means but I obviously can't speak for them. Some of those shoots were terrible like the Walter Scott shooting. Screw that officer. Really. Other shoots IMO, were justified like the Alfred Olongo one.

5. I get asked this frequently. And the perception of the man being the one handing out the abuse is because it normally is. I've arrested plenty of women though. It's all about the dominant aggressor. If you're walking away from a female and she punches you in the back of the head and you go back and knock her out, you're gonna be the dominant aggressor. If it was the other way around and you got knocked out by the female, then she would be the dominant aggressor. DV incidents are too dynamic. If there's no injuries its basically whoever comes up with the more elaborate story making the other person look like the more violent one. A lot of times one person doesn't want the other to get in trouble so they say nothing while the other person is spilling all the beans, even made up ones. In those cases my advice is don't hold back and tell it like it is.

6. How did you know he was a cop? If he was and you did swing, I hope he wouldn't have shot you. He could have arrested you but again, if its just like you're saying, theres also a penal code for "words likely to cause a violent reaction." 240 PC if I'm not mistaken.

 

[nt tbl]

My first point was part of the bigger picture you may not be privy to yet. Your scope is relatively small but if you are as decent as you come off maybe you will see what me and many think about cops and their purpose.

Another question, how prepared are you and fellows officers to handle the mental disorders of civillians. Bi-polar, dementia, schizo? I will say NYPD might some of the worst human beings just off what I see them do to the mentall impaired. It's embarrassing we pay taxes to feed those animals.

Fairly prepared. We have training in the academy and in refresher courses. Some officers take extra courses on the subject. We even have people specifically trained in psychological disorders that ride with officers every once in a while. It's not a crime to be crazy. If you meet our criteria though (either a danger to self, a danger to others, or you're gravely disabled) then we will take you to a hospital or a facility and put you on a hold for psychological evaluation. People think of the Alfred Olongo case and how he was said to be having psych issues when he was shot. I've heard a lot of people ask why there was no psych clinician there at the scene. The scene has to be safe before a clinician will even get out of the car.

 

[nt tbl]

Answered through page 3. Hope I'm answering some of your questions effectively. If not, I apologize but I answered as best I could.

 

[Sir San Diego]

1. There was a complaint of an assault. Like somebody called the cops? Whether it was by somebody in your household or your next door neighbor hearing things through the wall, we'll come knock on your door any time of day.

2. Not wrong for protecting yourself. A battery though is a battery and say that was a good samaritan pulling you off and you elbowed him/her, then they can press charges against you. Would it stand up in court? Probably not. As far as the *** beating, based on your story I would say they're in the wrong but all I have to go off of is your word.

3. Disobey a cop? The only time that you can legally do that is during a consensual contact (where an officer just comes up to you just to contact you). They can say hi, you can say **** off, and then legally the cop has to leave. Now if they're contacting you because you fit the description of a burglar who just robbed a store down the street, then its a legal detention and you can't just walk away. As far as proving you're not lying the only real proof is evidence.

4. Really who doesn't lie? Not gonna lie......I've lied. After that, its the degree of your lie. Referencing the shooting of unarmed black people I can't speak for those officers. I can speculate but I really don't know. Fear maybe? They messed up and didn't know what to do? That's not a justification for any of those events by any means but I obviously can't speak for them. Some of those shoots were terrible like the Walter Scott shooting. Screw that officer. Really. Other shoots IMO, were justified like the Alfred Olongo one.

5. I get asked this frequently. And the perception of the man being the one handing out the abuse is because it normally is. I've arrested plenty of women though. It's all about the dominant aggressor. If you're walking away from a female and she punches you in the back of the head and you go back and knock her out, you're gonna be the dominant aggressor. If it was the other way around and you got knocked out by the female, then she would be the dominant aggressor. DV incidents are too dynamic. If there's no injuries its basically whoever comes up with the more elaborate story making the other person look like the more violent one. A lot of times one person doesn't want the other to get in trouble so they say nothing while the other person is spilling all the beans, even made up ones. In those cases my advice is don't hold back and tell it like it is.

6. How did you know he was a cop? If he was and you did swing, I hope he wouldn't have shot you. He could have arrested you but again, if its just like you're saying, theres also a penal code for "words likely to cause a violent reaction." 240 PC if I'm not mistaken.

1. The complaint happened a day prior. Found out later. It happened somewhere public, nowhere near my home.

2. I didn't get arrested. In fact I got cuffed and then advised to leave the scene and talked out of calling an ambulance. I took a cab to the hospital.

3. Good to know.

4. At least you're honest about your dishonesty.

5. Got it.

6. He dressed like an off duty cop. Way too squared away. His physique and hair cut. Also I noticed he missed part of his mustache in what otherwise was a clean shave. Almost like he had grown it out for undercover work and no longer needed it. The remaining few whiskers were long. Most people that take the time to grow facial hair don't arbitrarily switch to clean cut out of nowhere. Also his phrasing when he tried to provoke me. Too many things to be just me guessing. But good to know about that penal code. I'll look it up.

 

[beh235]

I'm indifferent to cops as I rarely run into them. I do not like cops at all that abuse their power and target people based on their race, but to the people that hate all cops, I dont get that. Like that has to be someone enforcing the law otherwise there will be chaos, no? Or should all civilians strap up themselves to protect themselves? If Oakland had no cops, people would be getting robbed left and right

I think there is a correlation between your personal experience encountering police officers particularly when they are aggressive and your attitude towards them. If you haven't had a lot of encounters with aggressive police officers at all it may be hard to understand others' bitter feelings towards police.

 

[doublemesh96]

Wow. Good job generalizing all of them.

This right here is the reason they get away with the bull****. People like you. I'm out this thread

 

[ghoststpatrick]

Are there a lot of good looking female officers?
Are there a fair amount of police on police sexual relations?
You ever heard of anyone smashing on the job?

 

[Based Jesus]

Y'all out here murdering innocent people. Kidnapping people. Torturing people. Ruining families. Destroying lives. I wish death on all of you.

Oh my bad that's not you doing all that right? And yet you all stand together and support eachother

Tell em how you really feel

 

[23kidd]

OP, i commend you for actually investing your time to talk to us about police work/lifestyle....i believe more of this is needed.

My question is how do you policeman/woman get trained dealing with disabled individuals? ( Autism, etc)

 

[shogun]

Are there a lot of good looking female officers?
Are there a fair amount of police on police sexual relations?
You ever heard of anyone smashing on the job?

I saw a jennifer lopez looking cop at a train station before. She was fire.

 

[macbk]

Y'all out here murdering innocent people. Kidnapping people. Torturing people. Ruining families. Destroying lives. I wish death on all of you.

Oh my bad that's not you doing all that right? And yet you all stand together and support eachother

Foul....

 

[hoopsboy]

This thread is a good idea.

I used to interact with the police almost daily at work before I transferred into a different division at my job. We supported each other in different situations.

I think police would be better understood by the masses if they saw what they actually deal with daily...not just what tv shows like Cops show or the lowlights on the news when one or a few of them mess up. Like real ride alongs that show everything....not some of it..

Its hard for rational people (like many on this message board) to understand the things police have to deal with because the rational people would never call 911 or the police directly for the situations the police deal with daily. Hope that makes sense....trying to put it into words. It's hard to imagine or get in that mind set.....like really the police have to respond to that kind of call?

 

[iDon’tRead]

sounds like some of you all expect change but don't want to help make changes