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I think it would depend on the person. I know lots of Asians that work white collar jobs that are very social.
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I just think Asian parents are EXTREMELY competitive, especially moms. Moms will literally sit around and talk about their kids accomplishments trying to one up each other. A lot of comparisons with their kids goes on.
I remember just hanging around one time. Like the parents will be real passive aggressive, but you know what they're trying to do.
As far as negative stereotypes - there are the obvious/common ones. Socially awkward, can't speak English properly, can't drive, small penis, eat dog etc ..., **** like that.
Of course we have the positive stereotypes, but that can be a negative cause a lot of people don't fit that stereotype.
"Hey do you know the answer to this?"
"No".
"But you're Asian".
btw, for the non asians, feel free to ask any questions
^ that's how African parents are......kids of African immigrants do really well just like Asians
Probably seems overbearing to deal with but in the end it pays off!
^Back stabbing as in they don't like it when someone shines. They mingle with one another. The Thai community is large, but it seems like almost everyone knows each other...except for a few like me because I wasn't in the circle to begin with. If someone has a business and becomes "too successful", the hate is real. They will smile in front of you, but talk crap behind you and take action to see you fail.
If you open a restaurant and its profiting, they may slander in the local newspaper saying it's not authentic or call the local health dept and say they found foreign particles in the food. They know they are secretly talking and doing these things while continuing to hang out with each other at functions and putting on fake smile. Typing from my phone mad early. Hope it makes sense. Didn't re read.
Not really anymore. In the last maybe 15+ years, the media portrays White males as soft or feminine compared to Black males. You see a lot of films and tv shows with a Black male and a White female. Almost never the other way around.
Nah bro.
What you're describing are outliers.
And it transcends just the black/white dynamic.
Asians, Latinos, and other racial groups are misrepresented.
As far as the film industries go, there seems to be a lot of Asians in high profile directorial roles. But they never cast Asians as leads, maybe a 3rd tier character. So is it fair to say, your own people close the doors on Asian actors? Or is it because the producers are calling the shots on who they can cast?
Luckily I never heard that said about me, but damnYep. I don't know how many times I've heard "He's Asian but not Asian Asian" from girls describing me
Can't do anything about the racism though, it's been hardwired into people by dominant aka white society
The only way we can combat this is by not making deals with white society, but rather paving our own successes.
For example, the Chinese Americans set up banks here that helped stabilize the Chinese communities and help promote economic growth. You never hear white people laugh at our money.
Now Asian Americans are popular on YouTube (Ryan Higa, WongFuProductions, JKFilms, Michelle Phan), got people realizing Asian Americans are more diverse and talented in other areas
The only way is up now.
Personally, I think the stereotypes are more powerful in the way we, as Asians, understand them. As they say, often our perception of ourselves is a reflection of what other people perceive and expect of us. In this case, most likely growing up you accepted these stereotypes as true. From that point on, you are subconsciously qualifying yourself against these character traits. For me, this is where the asian-asian or white washed asians or blackwashed asian monikers spawn from. Not from other cultures but from the myriad of Asian cultures trying to constantly hammer in which values we need to portray overtly. This is important because on a day to day basis you either are seeking to live up to the stereotype or you are overtly trying to disassociate from it. I think this is the reason a lot of people struggle/fight with identity until they are older and come to embrace their cultures. First you have to figure out where you stand on the issue of stereotypes.i guess i am familiar with those you mentioned, i guess what i am interested in is how, if at all, asians (or specifically how you as an asian processed them) internalize these stereotypes? or if they are reinforced or perpetuated culturally in any way? because on the one hand, i feel like most people don't really have a lot of information on asian culture to construct them, all i knew of "asian" culture was from kung fu & ninja flicks really, and a chinese kid with whom i went to junior high and would sometimes talk about how strict our parents were. and on the other hand, not to downplay these stereotypes because they are all hurtful on some level and do effect one's self perception, but these are fairly benign (besides the small peen thing, that perception probably does lead to some real missed opportunities!), like do you think people at the dmv go extra hard on asians getting a drivers license? or when someone's dog goes missing do the neighbors ring the asian families residences? do asians buy in to the idea that they work harder and/or are smarter?
for example; if you are an asian kid that loves basketball and are super good but aren't freakishly tall, does the fact that there aren't many examples of asian players deter you from pursuing basketball? there may not be anyone explicitly telling an asian kid that he/she could not be a ball player rather they make come to the decision not to pursue it due to the path not seeming clear or feasible with not many examples? i think plays some part in some of these cultural thing, and becomes self-fulfilling in a way...
asian.
and... ill just leave this here.
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[th=""]Mean Household Income[/th]
[/tr][tr][td]Asian alone[/td]
[td]$90,752[/td]
[/tr][tr][td]White alone[/td]
[td]$79,340[/td]
[/tr][tr][td]Hispanic or Latino[/td]
[td]$54,644[/td]
[/tr][tr][td]Black[/td]
[td]$49,629[/td]
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Many people argue FOTB, hell even the creator, that FOTB is mostly catered to white people with only 5 mins of realness in every episode. I won't have any faith in Hollywood until they actually give Asians a show with no "white" filter. I can see why they do that though, for "profitability" reasons.Entertainment
Quite a few YouTube stars are of Asian descent. James Wan, Cary Fukunaga, and Justin Lin are up-and-coming directors who are helming big projects. You have to understand that Hollywood is a money machine and studios primarily finance films that can generate profit. Their mentality is: why should we take a chance on this unproven actor/director when we can get a safer, easier choice? I think the tide is slowly turning with ABC giving Fresh Off the Boat a chance.
Personally, I think the stereotypes are more powerful in the way we, as Asians, understand them. As they say, often our perception of ourselves is a reflection of what other people perceive and expect of us. In this case, most likely growing up you accepted these stereotypes as true. From that point on, you are subconsciously qualifying yourself against these character traits. For me, this is where the asian-asian or white washed asians or blackwashed asian monikers spawn from. Not from other cultures but from the myriad of Asian cultures trying to constantly hammer in which values we need to portray overtly. This is important because on a day to day basis you either are seeking to live up to the stereotype or you are overtly trying to disassociate from it. I think this is the reason a lot of people struggle/fight with identity until they are older and come to embrace their cultures. First you have to figure out where you stand on the issue of stereotypes.
Yep. I don't know how many times I've heard "He's Asian but not Asian Asian" from girls describing me
From what I guess, the "First generation Asian in America experience" varies greatly between regions.
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I think racism definitely played a part on Jeremy Lin's basketball career. Since he wasn't a 7 ft. center but a 6'3'' asian guard, he wasn't offered the same type of scholarships that most players with those kind of accolades and accomplishments would have received.
Topic is promoting good discussion. Let's keep it up.
Culture / Upbringing
In my experience, Asian parents never shower their kids with constant praise. I think it's tried and true that they reward good behavior (e.g. getting top grades, killing it in everything) and punish bad behavior (e.g. not afraid to beat you -- no such things as timeouts). Generally, that motto should hold true for most parents.
I was raised in a pretty strict environment. My family came from nothing and as immigrants, the only goal was to prosper. What does that mean? Money. You can understand why this survival instinct is so important to them. I know exactly what it means to have nothing, sleeping on the floors in a rundown, cramped one-bedroom apartment. The sacrifice was real and I'm sure my fellow NT fam can relate.
It's really simple: Asian parents, and parents in general, don't want you to go through what they went through. So when Asian kids get angry at their parents and feel immense pressure, I can relate. I was in that exact same position. But when I look back at it now, I've been incredibly blessed. My grandma, who was a true hustler, told me this before she passed away (RIP): "We came from nothing. So if we have something at the end of each day, we made it."
I'm sure you're beginning to form the greater picture here. It took me a while to realize that my parents pushed me to the limit early on so that I'd be crushing it before everyone else. I'd be ready for whatever life threw at me. No good parent wants their child to suffer and be miserable. Of course, a lot of Asian kids probably develop low self-esteem and self-doubt, but I think this is an area where Asian parents can do better.
How to Improve (Asian) Children Upbringing
This is just my opinion, but Asian parents should be tough but fair. I know a few folks who completely resent their parents. By that, I mean they've been so scarred that they haven't talked to/seen their parents in 5+ years. One homie I know went through this and recently found out his mom died. You can imagine how devastated he was, especially when she left behind everything for him in her will and wrote a long letter telling him how she knows she pushed him to the extreme, but did it all out of love for him. Asian parents rarely know how to communicate emotionally with their children, resulting in robotic personalities and less happy upbringings.
So how can Asian parents raise even better children?
- Be tough, but fair.
- Do not stifle your kids' creativity, but also remind them to always have a plan. Execute that plan and think of anything and everything that could go wrong.
- Reward good behavior and teach them responsibility (they control what happens to them).
- Teach your kids to be humble, but confident in their abilities.
- Get out more, try new hobbies, but most importantly, stay out of trouble / bad influences.
I was raised by a Tiger mom who has softened up in the past few years. I showed her a pic of a chick I'm seeing and moms told me "she looks like a damn thot, get in and then drop her." My mom has a lot DGAF behaviors.
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And although there were negatives to this Tiger mom way, I don't know of any other ways I could've possibly been raised. It took me a while to realize the overarching lesson in the difficulties: Comfort does not build character.
Many people argue FOTB, hell even the creator, that FOTB is mostly catered to white people with only 5 mins of realness in every episode. I won't have any faith in Hollywood until they actually give Asians a show with no "white" filter. I can see why they do that though, for "profitability" reasons.Entertainment
Quite a few YouTube stars are of Asian descent. James Wan, Cary Fukunaga, and Justin Lin are up-and-coming directors who are helming big projects. You have to understand that Hollywood is a money machine and studios primarily finance films that can generate profit. Their mentality is: why should we take a chance on this unproven actor/director when we can get a safer, easier choice? I think the tide is slowly turning with ABC giving Fresh Off the Boat a chance.
But at least Asian Americans can somewhat play other characters now instead of being the FOB or unattractive beta.
Japanese culture is kinda messed up. Too much emphasis on a working life and apparently not enough men and women are hooking up so that there's a deficit of a younger generation
Holy crapola I never even heard of this
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Japanese culture is kinda messed up. Too much emphasis on a working life and apparently not enough men and women are hooking up so that there's a deficit of a younger generation
That's the downfall of these free style MCs. They're nice on battles but most can't go commercial and blow. Word to King Los.And that was the end of Jin
It's possible considering they have pretty similar cultures. All I know is Japan is the one with the demographic problem and that they're actively promoting marriage and relationships so they aren't stuck with a bunch of geezers and a broken economy in 20 years. I would say it's pretty distant to asian american culture though.Doesn't South Korea have this problem too?
That's the downfall of these free style MCs. They're nice on battles but most can't go commercial and blow. Word to King Los.And that was the end of Jin