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Name one person using that as an excuse for anything in this thread or where Mooney implies we should use that as an excuse. Cuz right now eventho you claim to acknowledge it you contradict yourself by saying we're making excuses when all we're doing is acknowledging it and talking about it.Originally Posted by Cz7
I acknowledge the odds maybe stacked up against because of our race, but I won't sit back and use that as an excuse or blame problems that I know I can fix and change on another race.
CROSSIOM is one guy that immediately comes to mind.Originally Posted by Nike Star Jay
[color= rgb(255, 0, 0)]Name one person using that was making an excuse for anything in this thread[/color] or where Mooney implies we should use that as an excuse. Cuz right now even tho you claim to acknowledge it you contradict yourself by saying we're making excuses when all we're doing is acknowledging it and talking about it.
Originally Posted by CROSSISOM
SMH at some of you forgetting that he's a comedian too.
You're giving his words too much power.Originally Posted by CROSSISOM
so lets just all become comedians and make jokes about the situation, because THAT will certainly make it better.Originally Posted by Cz7
It's outside of our power dude, whether we like it or not. Even a self enlightened person can do nothing but help start a movement towards equality.Originally Posted by CROSSISOM
Come on Ant, you're not equal because here you are admitting to be so. Thats mental slavery.
If every black person isn't on the same wavelength towards betterment, then we won't get anywhere.
I know you didn't say that, but if we you contend that we are powerless to control or alter our own situation then what the hell do we do.
"Actions speak louder than words"... I 100% completely agree. I actually see where you're coming from, and I'm assuming you see where I'm coming from, but is it really necessary for people to attack each other and call them names because of different POV's? Why ignore my message just because I use some comparisons you don't like? Tell me that. It straight up pisses me off when I type a whole essay for y'all explaining my views and then y'all pick a quote y'all don't like and insult me for it. It's a lot of fickle dudes in here. I'm not talking about you LDJ, because at least at the end of the day you have it in you to admit you can understand what I'm saying unlike some of these other dudes.Originally Posted by Nike Star Jay
LDJ wrote:
Im not saying you are wrong nor am i saying all whites etc are racists. What i am saying is what someone says cannot be compared to what someone actually does.
CROSSIOM is one guy that immediately comes to mind.Originally Posted by Nike Star Jay
"So, your conclusion is that Paul Mooney should tell the truth in a sugar coated manner that every one could digest" <----- How do you get that from my post? I'm saying that although Mooney has some truth to his statements, they can be viewed as offensive. Others believe that he is only joking and don't believe his statements are offensive at all only because he's a comedian. My point was, just because he's a comedian doesn't mean you, him, or anyone should/can brush them off as "jokes". There are several Mooney videos, I only watched the interview that OP posted. Is that clear to everyone? So no, my comparison did not come from any other videos, it's merely coincidental that I made the comparsion between the two of them. Was the comparison extreme? Yes. Maybe too extreme as it seems because y'all seem to not be able to get passed it. The whole reasoning behind it was the LDJ along with others were saying that Mooney's statements couldn't be racist because he's a "comedian". My point was that's not an excuse because although he is a comedian, that doesn't mean he's not serious about some of the things he says.Originally Posted by fac3 tak30v312
NJS .... I'm not here to attack you and quite understand what you're trying to do but let me ask one thing why does that double standard exist? Also, why are you using extremes to get your point across? I understand that the average NTer barely connects the dots, but exactly who are trying to get over on? So, your conclusion is that Paul Mooney should tell the truth in a sugar coated manner, that every one could digest. While you take his quotes out of context, while also twisting them for your benefit. Yet after all your berating you separate yourself from all of your comments as if you're just an overseer to the words you spew out through the assistance of a keyboard. Honestly I don't get your point at all.
But if you or anyone else siding with you actually watched the video and the other parts to the interview then you would have seen that Paul Mooney does touch upon this double standard you speak on, while I have an analogy of my own in mind .. his was stated quite simply and doesn't need any others added to it for better understanding
Name one person using that as an excuse for anything in this thread or where Mooney implies we should use that as an excuse. Cuz right now even tho you claim to acknowledge it you contradict yourself by saying we're making excuses when all we're doing is acknowledging it and talking about it.
So you just wanna argue? I asked for a post of anyone in this thread making an excuse not something youdidn't understand or misinterpreted. If you don't take the whole thing and just look for certain parts you taking it out of context.Originally Posted by Nike Star Jay
No one else seems to have a problem doing it. Also, I most definitely read the 2nd part of his statement, I didn't focus on it because that's not the part that I interpreted as an excuse. An excuse is what you asked for isn't it? If you want to draw attention to his 2nd statement, I'll do so. He says, "even a self-enlightened person can do nothing but start a movement towards equality". It sounds as if he's deeming that effort as worthless. Yes, I most certainly think a man can START a revolution on his own. Carrying it out all lies within the people though and that's the hard part because as you said -- we fail to unify.Originally Posted by Master Zik
I figured you was just gonna take one part of his post and focus on that. Ignoring the second sentence thus losing the point of what he was saying.
You think one man can start a movement/revolution on his own? Cuz what he said is right. I'm not aware of any type of progression that's solely attributed to one person.
The reason he says "it's outside of out power" is cuz we aren't altogether, we're not on the same page, we're not united in any shape or form BUT if you got that as him making an excuse fine it's actually proving the point even more.
Originally Posted by Nike Star Jay
No one else seems to have a problem doing it. Also, I most definitely read the 2nd part of his statement, I didn't focus on it because that's not the part that I interpreted as an excuse. An excuse is what you asked for isn't it? If you want to draw attention to his 2nd statement, I'll do so. He says, "even a self-enlightened person can do nothing but start a movement towards equality". It sounds as if he's deeming that effort as worthless. Yes, I most certainly think a man can START a revolution on his own. Carrying it out all lies within the people though and that's the hard part because as you said -- we fail to unify.Originally Posted by Master Zik
I figured you was just gonna take one part of his post and focus on that. Ignoring the second sentence thus losing the point of what he was saying.
You think one man can start a movement/revolution on his own? Cuz what he said is right. I'm not aware of any type of progression that's solely attributed to one person.
The reason he says "it's outside of out power" is cuz we aren't altogether, we're not on the same page, we're not united in any shape or form BUT if you got that as him making an excuse fine it's actually proving the point even more.
Originally Posted by kix4kix
Originally Posted by wren32
Originally Posted by Nash
look dingbat, what I'm trying to say to you is that nobody was talking about the Holocaust in here so what is the point of arguing your point that it was worse than slavery? Regardless of whether or not it was, why even bring such a divisive topic in here?Originally Posted by wren32
Originally Posted by Nash
Originally Posted by wren32
paul mooney is funny as hell. Slavery was horrible but compared to the holocaust its a walk in the park.
now why would you come in here and say some off the cuff, non-sequitur, unnecessarily controversial stuff like that
There is no controversey in what i said. over 6 million jewish peole murdered because one guy got an enitire country/group of people to share his hatred for them. id rather be a slave then get starved to death, gased to death, shot to death or burned to death anyday. my point is it could always be worse. Slaves for the most part weren't just being killed for nothing jewish people were. And people need to take what paul mooney said for what it is JOKES.
Dingbat? haven't heard that in a while lol the point is people cant take a joke for what it is and they think that slavery is the end all be all of bad things that have happened in the world and its not. Take what the man said for what it is and laugh cuz it could be alot worse.
listen here, you whimsical vagabond. I have never in my life seen a more unnecessary comparison. first off, Holocaust lasted all but how long? Blacks still in chains today.
6 milliion died by ovens now? Not true brody. Most, if not all, were by starvation, a death which some slaves would have killed for. Why bring up the imagry of ovens though? Do you know what it's like to have your scrotum cut off, then fed to you while you are hung from a noose? Cuz I am sure my duke Abraham was getting that same treatment behind bars? Not likely, and atleast the Jews knew what it was like to be free. Atleast they had freedom, a decision made for by slaves. Born into slavery, do you have any idea how powerful that belief system is? How detrimental that frame of mind, can cause generations? At the end of the day, they were both horrible, but 400 years of slavery >>>>>>. You dingbat.