America is Regressing into a Developing Nation for Most People

[hennessy]

Groupthink ruined America and that is why we are regressing. Look at who is our president right now. Lower class Americans are given just enough to be complacent in their position, and not to revolt against the ruling class. Most Americans shop at the same places, eat the same, dress the same, and view all the same media. True individuals that can project from within themselves, rather than being a sheep obeying the constructs of society put in place by the ruling class, are few and far in between. I feel that it is such a personal feat to transcend the socioeconomic class you were born into that the few that are able to do it usually cannot help their peers do the same.

I think the problem is we are taught to follow a curriculum from such a young age, the same one that everyone follows. We are told what we need to do in order to be "graded". Individuality is being stripped away from our kids at a young age. Even if you're exceptional, peer pressure always has a way of catching up and exerting the influence of the masses upon you.

Unplug. Go out in nature. Start partaking in sustainable practices like growing your own food. Look at the people at your job and ask yourself if you fit in with these people.

Just stop going with the flow and following things because it's easy and normal. Your life will be more difficult but also more rewarding and you will feel excited to wake up living instead of going through the motions like everyone else in the rat race.

 

[getback]

I think the problem is we are taught to follow a curriculum from such a young age, the same one that everyone follows. We are told what we need to do in order to be "graded". Individuality is being stripped away from our kids at a young age. Even if you're exceptional, peer pressure always has a way of catching up and exerting the influence of the masses upon you.

Unplug. Go out in nature. Start partaking in sustainable practices like growing your own food. Look at the people at your job and ask yourself if you fit in with these people.

Just stop going with the flow and following things because it's easy and normal. Your life will be more difficult but also more rewarding and you will feel excited to wake up living instead of going through the motions like everyone else in the rat race.

Agreed. I was listening to a Joe Rogan podcast when he had Henry Rollins on. Rollins said he was a "test subject" for adderall when he was a child because he couldn't focus at school and was sort of a free spirit. Rogan was disgusted, because basically certain kids are being medicated and forced to do things simply because they have more energy and don't want to sit in school 5 days/30+hrs per week. Similarly, they're treated as different in a negative context and designated as "special ed" which carries a negative stigma all on its own.

Think about all of the kids who were treated as such, who actually have a TON of potential but are being forced to conform whether or not their personality jives with the "normal" systems.

 

[hennessy]

I think the problem is we are taught to follow a curriculum from such a young age, the same one that everyone follows. We are told what we need to do in order to be "graded". Individuality is being stripped away from our kids at a young age. Even if you're exceptional, peer pressure always has a way of catching up and exerting the influence of the masses upon you.


Unplug. Go out in nature. Start partaking in sustainable practices like growing your own food. Look at the people at your job and ask yourself if you fit in with these people.


Just stop going with the flow and following things because it's easy and normal. Your life will be more difficult but also more rewarding and you will feel excited to wake up living instead of going through the motions like everyone else in the rat race.

Agreed. I was listening to a Joe Rogan podcast when he had Henry Rollins on. Rollins said he was a "test subject" for adderall when he was a child because he couldn't focus at school and was sort of a free spirit. Rogan was disgusted, because basically certain kids are being medicated and forced to do things simply because they have more energy and don't want to sit in school 5 days/30+hrs per week. Similarly, they're treated as different in a negative context and designated as "special ed" which carries a negative stigma all on its own.

Think about all of the kids who were treated as such, who actually have a TON of potential but are being forced to conform whether or not their personality jives with the "normal" systems.

Yeah man it's pretty upsetting. You can't cater to every kids individuality so instead we make them all the same. Why? Because it's easy.

My girl and I just watched the movie "Captain Fantastic". I highly recommend it. It shows how smart and unique kids can develop with the proper role models and schooling (6 kids are home schooled by their father; mother deceased). The kids are extremely book smart, stronger than any of their peers, proficient in martial arts, etc... They are all straight Gs. But the negative side is that they crave social interaction with their peers, who they are LIGHT YEARS beyond in terms of intelligence and maturity. And it's just very difficult for them to integrate into the real world from their utopia.

But my point is, and my girl and I discussed this, traditional gender roles are important because having one parent in the household makes sure you can shape your children the right way. The gender roles disappearing because of feminism and all the women in the work force. We feel that one of us should work and one should be with the kids. Parents NEED to be the role model and best teacher their children have. Otherwise, your kids are going to be subjected to the same things as everyone else and end up just another worker bee in the beehive.

It's a double edged sword. I know that I could homeschool my kids and they'd be smarter than their peers, is that worth putting them at risk to be socially awkward when you integrate them with the other "normal" kids?

Everyone in America wants to bring people different from them down. It's turning into crabs in a bucket and is really sad.

 

[hennessy]

I suspect lower class America wants the rest of them to be in their position. They are used to working at Walmart and coal mines and have no means to educating their offspring so they try to bring the rest of us down with them word to ninjahood.

#thedeathofexpertise

Took the words out of my mouth.

I put in a two month notice before I resigned from the federal government to start my own company. During that time, the way my coworkers attitudes towards me shifted, the side comments I caught, it was pretty unbelievable to me.

People in America feel stuck in quicksand. When someone just walks past them freely, it's infuriating. They rather pull you down into the sand with them and have everyone sink, even themselves.

Now with that said, there are huge obstacles for certain socioeconmic groups. They start their lives stuck crawling out of the quicksand while others are born with snow shoes to trot right on by. So the frustration is justified.

Until people choose to be individuals and innovate again I believe the middle class will dissapear. 99% of people follow the rules the 1% make. We need more people making their own rules and going against the grain. Assimilation is easy, but essentially you make yourself a prisoner to society.

Why are we telling kids what they need to do from the get go, packing them information they'll probably never use, making them all the same. I think it would be better to learn about the kid first. Kids are smart and outspoken but they will shape the future if we allow them. We should cater to their individuality rather than stifle it. They need to know it's ok to break rules if they aren't hurting anyone and are doing it for the right reasons. And they need to learn to think for themselves instead of being told what to do. Until that happens 99% of America will be imprisoned clones. "Land of the free and home of the brave." What happened to that? It's more like the land of the imprisoned and home of the sheep.

 

[gry60]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/04/05/public-school-dinners-pantries/70389176/

 

[Sir San Diego]

But they're white, so they're superior. [emoji]128580[/emoji]

 

[Sir San Diego]

LOL white people know they aren't superior, it's taking them a while to come to terms with it. Unfortunately instead of evolving and adapting to a diverse society they are being miseducated by wealthy elite who exploit the bottom feeders. The best white people have to offer are a dying breed. Now the rest of us have to deal with Honey boo boo and Joe the Plumber.  :x  


I lt sounds cliche but diversity is literally what made this country great. 

Oh, I'm aware and so are they.

https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxn...cally-weaker-than-blacks-study-finds.amp.html

 

[360waves]

Yea but they enslaved Africans/ carved up Africa with colonization, took north America from the natives and bombed Japan to hell and back

 

[glasshouse]

Very foolish people in here. Superior? No one is superior. We bleed through similar veins.

 

[Sir San Diego]

You completely missed the point I made in here, no one is superior but if you have to play the superiority card the people Europeans labeled as "black" are genetically superior. I'm making a point that will go over heads. Race is NOT a genetic entity and if it were black people are superior, genetically.

What you're saying is easy to understand, but let me dumb it down:

Race was invented by racists that claimed white people are superior. Even in their made up construct they are wrong.

 

[wr]

When you create a country designed that only white males can prosper as proof of that theory.....

 

[Sir San Diego]

When you create a country designed that only white males can prosper as proof of that theory.....

Right? If you're superior you wouldn't need the advantages built into the system.

White Supremacy makes zero sense from any angle.

 

[leavemeglazzies]

Instead of emulating someone like Canada and Scandinavia, the US is starting to look more and more like countries such as Brazil and India, where those that have it good have it really good and those that have it bad are essentially treated and seen as human waste.

 

[Platinum State]

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Not true at all. I dont think you know what it looks like to live in a third world country. Not having enough to eat, not being able to buy anything other than food, unsanitary conditions, corruption.........
There will always be people that have it really good and those that dont everywhere. In third world countries there's a 90% chance someone will be poor and struggle through life. Cant say that about America

 

[moe fab]

Have you seen some of the hoods in America?

 

[Teknoman]

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Not true at all. I dont think you know what it looks like to live in a third world country. Not having enough to eat, not being able to buy anything other than food, unsanitary conditions, corruption.........
There will always be people that have it really good and those that dont everywhere. In third world countries there's a 90% chance someone will be poor and struggle through life. Cant say that about America

I got buddies from other countries. The corruption in 3rd world countries is in another level.

 

[gry60]

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Not true at all. I dont think you know what it looks like to live in a third world country. Not having enough to eat, not being able to buy anything other than food, unsanitary conditions, corruption.........
There will always be people that have it really good and those that dont everywhere. In third world countries there's a 90% chance someone will be poor and struggle through life. Cant say that about America

I know what it's like, and the US is getting there.

Hunger: I posted an article about public schools' increasing role in feeding children who don't have enough to eat at home; also,
food insecurity on college campuses is growing.

Unsanitary conditions: Flint, undermining the EPA and the FDA

Corruption: lack of accountability from law enforcement, civil forfeiture, affluenza, etc...

Economic mobility: not so easy anymore

 

[getback]

The US is not "getting there." It might be microcosm of what you think a 3rd world country is, but it's nowhere near it. We have massive issues, but to compare them to that of 3rd world countries is a slap in the face to 3rd world countries.

@LeaveMeGlazzies Hit the nail.

 

[gry60]

The US is not "getting there." It might be microcosm of what you think a 3rd world country is, but it's nowhere near it. We have massive issues, but to compare them to that of 3rd world countries is a slap in the face to 3rd world countries.

@LeaveMeGlazzies
Hit the nail.

How does what I said differ from LMG's comment?

 

[d nice]

The US may not be classified as a 3rd world country but there is definitely a significant amount of people who live in 3rd world conditions.

 

[biggie62]

The US may not be classified as a 3rd world country but there is definitely a significant amount of people who live in 3rd world conditions.

No running water, no access to healthcare, no access to any food. While yes the poor areas and poor people of the US are truly struggling and always have been except now for once it's shifting towards the caucasians as well, these people still have access to these things. Food being the hardest one to get as I know 1/5 children don't know where their next meal will come but there are soup kitchens and such. Something a 3rd world country doesn't even consider a possibility. Plus let's add the fact that 3rd world countries have vile diseases spreading left and right like cholera and things of that nature.

The US has its huge pitfalls but to compare it to a 3rd world country is just a cheap shot. The poor in this country still are better off than 85% of the 3rd world population. Let's keep that in mind. People aren't dying due to famine and tribal/religious wars here.

 

[d nice]

No running water, no access to healthcare, no access to any food. While yes the poor areas and poor people of the US are truly struggling and always have been except now for once it's shifting towards the caucasians as well, these people still have access to these things. Food being the hardest one to get as I know 1/5 children don't know where their next meal will come but there are soup kitchens and such. Something a 3rd world country doesn't even consider a possibility. Plus let's add the fact that 3rd world countries have vile diseases spreading left and right like cholera and things of that nature.

The US has its huge pitfalls but to compare it to a 3rd world country is just a cheap shot. The poor in this country still are better off than 85% of the 3rd world population. Let's keep that in mind. People aren't dying due to famine and tribal/religious wars here.

those same conditions that you highlighted can also be found here in America as well. There are plenty of places here in America where people lack running water (flint, Meridian and other places),access to food (Food deserts are very real in black and brown communities), and proper education. You can make a case that these conditions shouldn't be happening in a fist world nation, but they are.

Now I'm not comparing this nation to a 3rd world nation at all, but I'm certainly not gonna marginalize what's going on here because someone else may be going through worse somewhere else. Our ability to consume masks the conditions of how bad this country really is. Capital needs people to consume to feed itself.

 

[RustyShackleford]

People like to dismiss poverty in America by looking at things on the aggregate. When you do that it is easy to dismiss the suffering of people at the bottom.

Yes the "average" America doesn't live in poverty, has clean water, and is food secure, but there are way too many people that fall below the line. Our suburbs might be decent but your cities are **** and our rural areas that the poor occupy and **** as well.

That does not have to be this way.

And what makes is worst is the insult on top of the injury, because at least in third world and developing countries have sort what of an excuse; you know, that maybe the lack of resources, lack of money, war, or just rampant corruption that is causing problems. America as a country really has no damn excuse.

There is enough money to feed everyone, enough money to provide everyone with necessities, enough to make sure everyone has the chance to lead a decent life.

Our voting system, our tax code, or fiscal policy, our monetary policy, our welfare system, our labor laws, our consumer laws, and our civil rights enforcement all range from either inadequate to **** when it comes to helping people on the lower rungs of the economic ladder. It is shameful in so many ways.

 

[gry60]

Wars and famine are extreme cases of instability, which is the main characteristic of developing countries. So, when I say that we are getting there in the US, what I'm getting at is the fact that we are becoming more economically, politically, and socially unstable. And like Rusty said, it doesn't have to be this way, and it wouldn't be if it weren't for the greed of those tasked with keeping the nation healthy.

 

[hand2handking]

dont "outside" influences also play a part in why third world countries are third world countries?