I disagree, every shoe and I mean every shoe has causal appeal, but that's if you like the shoe then you can see it, if you don't then you won't see the casual appeal of the shoe, that's the bottom line and I mean that for every single shoe, I don't see the casual appeal of Sketcher's, or high designer shoes like Balecingas(SP) but the SIG AJnline after X I can't see the casual appeal, I can't see it on X> because those are all ugly to "ME" but the XX8, XX9, were cool and "I" could see the casual appeal in those, I still want the XX8 Jokers and XX9 RW I've just been on other priorities to jump on them, but every shoe has casual appeal if you want it to