I never caught them on adidas.com but initially saw them on SNS, SIZE?, CT and the likes in EU. The blk/blk were still there on SIZE? or CT but not in my size, I couldn't find the b/w at that time. The lightenings restocked a few times. I thought I saw them on Packers or UBiQ too but interest for me at that time was minimal so I didn't pay too close attention. I like the weave the best out of all the materials on the flux's after experiencing them all...wish I grabbed those two back then as I'm a predominantly black shoe guy.