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And I think you're a piss poor troll who's seeking men's attention on the internet anything else?
You in here fishing for an argument for what?
If you don't like my reasoning then prove it wrong, prove nobody gets their door kicked by guys with assault rifles otherwise take that ******** elsewhere boy.
Not to mention that wasn't even the primary reason I stated for owning a big gun but you kindly glossed over that in your childish attention seeking efforts.
am i wrong in thinking that guncontrol=more regulations as in what kinds of guns poeple can own, and how many and not stripping people of the right to bear arms? like people dont need military grade weapons to protect themselves right? i guess that also has a lot to do with america's "gun culture" though
werent most illegal guns legal at some point? or are we getting them brought in from out of the country?
Usually yes it's mostly people who want to limit what guns people have access to, there is also a portion of people who want no guns at all.
As for the second part I don't see why someone shouldn't be allowed to own high power rifles and the such.
We live in a country were your local police forces have become armed to the teeth following 9/11, the same local police forces that we see on a near daily basis can barely handle a traffic stop without murdering people, yet people cant seem to grasp why we as the citizens of this land might want to be in the same neck of the woods in terms of the type of guns we own, not to mention the punk with an ak47 who might decide to kick in your door isn't gonna give a damn about what guns are banned in the state.
What does this have to do with gun ownership?
Either present facts or troll elsewhere boy.
It was it is, one of us can support his stance with fact and the other is posting smiley faces.
It's irrational for a grown man to want to own a big gun but not to intentionally pose as an idiot for that sake of cheap internet jokes......
What does this have to do with gun ownership?
Can you read?
I can, and you typed a bunch of gibberish.
Wanting to own the same type of weapons as law enforcement, just because.
Army has tanks...maybe you could cop your own and put 24s on it.
I need a gun for protection because I don't need any loners taking my life
I get what you're saying, and i agree with alot of it. but arent the majority of these loner mass shooter types white males from middle/upper middle class backgrounds? backgrounds that aren't generallt troubled by bad schooling, broken homes, and lack of health care? I 100% agree with you though when it comes to the correlation between poverty and poor education to crime though.How does stricter gun control PREVENT a mentally stable, responsible human being from owning a gun to protect themselves and their property ?
Anyways, stricter gun control may help the mentally unstable folks from retrieving a gun, I believe it should be implemented, but that's just a band-aid fix.
A. You have to look at implementation of a universal health care system so that lower income and mentally unstable individuals are taken care of.
B. A better K-12 system needs to be implemented in public schools in low income neighborhoods. Thus, someone from that public school has the same chance as someone from a well of private school to succeed.
The higher the education rate, the higher the chances of success. More chances of success means less probability of resorting to crime. Less crime correlates to less need for guns and gun violence.
For universal health care, it is another less worry for low income households. The better upbringing of a child, the better the success rate. Again, less probability of resorting to crime, guns, and violence. The same can be said with mentally unstable folks, they can be taken care of early in life because of the easier access to universal health care. Overall, helping them to become a more productive and resonsible member of society.
gun control doesnt effect the guns, it effects the people trying to get or already owning gunsA lot of scary *** ****** showin their colors in here.
Its not the guns fault.
We need War on drugs approach to guns.
Its the PEOPLE!
I get what you're saying, and i agree with alot of it. but arent the majority of these loner mass shooter types white males from middle/upper middle class backgrounds? backgrounds that aren't generallt troubled by bad schooling, broken homes, and lack of health care? I 100% agree with you though when it comes to the correlation between poverty and poor education to crime though.How does stricter gun control PREVENT a mentally stable, responsible human being from owning a gun to protect themselves and their property ?
Anyways, stricter gun control may help the mentally unstable folks from retrieving a gun, I believe it should be implemented, but that's just a band-aid fix.
A. You have to look at implementation of a universal health care system so that lower income and mentally unstable individuals are taken care of.
B. A better K-12 system needs to be implemented in public schools in low income neighborhoods. Thus, someone from that public school has the same chance as someone from a well of private school to succeed.
The higher the education rate, the higher the chances of success. More chances of success means less probability of resorting to crime. Less crime correlates to less need for guns and gun violence.
For universal health care, it is another less worry for low income households. The better upbringing of a child, the better the success rate. Again, less probability of resorting to crime, guns, and violence. The same can be said with mentally unstable folks, they can be taken care of early in life because of the easier access to universal health care. Overall, helping them to become a more productive and resonsible member of society.
you and i are in the same position. I have no idea what happens in middle class white suburbia that drives a male to commit mass shootings like that. completely out of my realm of comprehension. I do on the other hand understand how poverty can drive one to crime and violence though.I was hoping a response like this would appear. So now, what do we do ? (I honestly am clueless what effective measure we can do next). I was hoping the discussion would lead folks to chime in their ideas.
exactly. the system is designed to maintain the status quo
not that it shouldnt be changed but IMO public education is harder to change than gun laws
teachers unions are the worst, the system is not built for change