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but they have a decent cast and can be an alright team in a few years
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Originally Posted by jrp44
I really have a feeling now that it is between the Cavs and the Knicks
I'm still not getting the Frankie's one but the NaS idea is goldOriginally Posted by Big J 33
Originally Posted by Frankie Valentino
If the Knicks want to get back at the Nets "Blueprint for Success" mural, i'd construct an elaborate lighting system to project a nice little message on top of it at night.took me a minute to get that.
A funny response I saw was to set up their own billboard and put Nas on it with "New York (Not Newark) State of Mind"
wow that's very bold.Originally Posted by DubA169
if they really showed him that. plus one for us.
http://sports.yahoo.com/n...for-the-B?urn=nba,253378
Originally Posted by DubA169
if they really showed him that. plus one for us.
http://sports.yahoo.com/n...for-the-B?urn=nba,253378
Few names on Knicks 2nd wave FA list include Ray Felton and Luke Ridnour. But first order is to see what comes of the top guys.
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Ned Dishman/NBAE via Getty ImagesIf the Knicks lure two big-name free agents to New York this offseason, could Melo be next in line?
[h4]1. Could Knicks Make Melo Deal Work?[/h4]
By Larry %##@
Special to ESPN.com
He's the shadow member of the 2010 free-agent class. While LeBron, Dwyane, Chris and Amare are wooed and courted, he watches with vested interest, knowing it'll be his turn next year. He's already the subject of myriad rumors, even before this year's premier free agents have chosen a home.
Carmelo Anthony is entering the final year of his contract -- and that's cause for concern in Denver.
Teams with room for one, two, and possibly even three maximum free agents this summer are viewing Anthony as the cherry on top of their sundaes. The idea is this: Start building the nucleus this year, reload with more cap room over the course of the season, and make a run at Anthony next July. Or even better, grab him now if the Nuggets decide to cut their losses and seek to move him this summer rather than risk losing him for nothing in 2011.
Speculation has hit a fever pitch in many NBA locales, and particularly in New York City. A common line of reasoning has the Knicks luring two prime free agents to New York this summer, and -- out of necessity -- filling out their lineup with cheap contracts. And then, the thinking goes, they can nab Melo when Eddy Curry's oversized contract expires next summer.
But is any of this realistic?
Let's presume the Knicks succeed in their quest this summer to land two premier free agents, starting at $16.6 million each. In that case, they will have a little under $2 million in remaining cap room to add one more player. Once that money is spent they will have eight players in the fold and will, by league rule, have to give minimum-salary contracts to at least five additional players. If the goal is to gain cap space in 2011, then everybody except the two stars will get a one-year contract (or two years with a team option after one).
From there, the Knicks have to make decisions on Danilo Gallinari ($4.19 million) and Toney Douglas ($1.15 million), whose team options for 2011 need to be picked up by this October 31.
Then next summer, Curry's $11.3 million salary vanishes from the payroll, along with all the one-year contracts. At that point the Knicks will face decisions on Bill Walker, whose $916,000 salary for 2011-12 is not guaranteed, and Wilson Chandler, who will become a restricted free agent -- the Knicks need to figure out whether to retain his rights. And they will have a first-round draft pick on the books -- the lesser of their own pick and Houston's pick as a result of the Jared Jeffries trade.
Let's suppose the Knicks keep Gallinari but sacrifice everyone else -- including the draft pick -- for the sake of 2011 cap room. If so, their roster will consist of just Gallinari and the two max players signed in 2010. After accounting for raises and incomplete roster holds, their team salary will add up to $44.39 million. So would that leave enough cap space for Carmelo?
Unfortunately, the answer appears to be no. If the cap stays unchanged from this summer's projected $56.1 million, only $11.7 million would be left over for the free-agent chase. That's not enough to lure a player like Anthony.
If the cap were to drop in 2011 -- for the third year in a row -- there would be even less money to spend. Even though the financial outlook is now more optimistic than the gloom-and-doom picture painted by the league office last year, the NBA might still face declining revenues (after citing a $400 million loss in 2009-10, though that number is disputed by the players' association). While revenues could jump in 2010-11 and reward teams with a higher cap next summer, it appears unlikely any such increase would be significant.
And all of that is before we get to the biggest wild card in the 2011 free-agent market -- the fact that the rules of the game could change drastically. The league's collective bargaining agreement will expire on July 1, 2011, and nobody can be signed until a new agreement is in place. No one knows when the next agreement will be ratified, and when it is, it could include elements of a hard cap, fewer salary-cap exceptions, additional constraints on maximum salaries and a different split in revenues resulting in a much lower salary cap. We don't know what the new landscape for future free agents will look like until the parties get down to serious business and reach a new agreement.
So what will happen with Anthony? It's no secret that the Nuggets want to keep Carmelo in the fold for the rest of his career. They reportedly have a maximum three-year, $65 million extension on the table, and at times have proven their willingness to make moves and spend money to improve the team's supporting cast. But they have seen the Cleveland Cavaliers do the same for LeBron James, only to face the prospect of being jilted by their franchise player this summer. Would the Nuggets cut their losses and trade Anthony in order to avoid a similar ugly situation in Denver? Perhaps.
That's why in the midst of the 2010 free-agent frenzy, the rumor mill also has been swirling with talk of a new destination for the Nuggets' franchise player. And the talk will continue as long as Anthony's extension remains unsigned. A move wouldn't necessarily take place this summer -- the two sides could continue to weigh their options before finally deciding whether to fish or cut bait at next February's trade deadline.
But even in this scenario the Knicks don't appear equipped to make a run at him. Their most likely trade asset is, ironically, Eddy Curry's expiring contract. But expiring contracts are typically traded for players with several years remaining on their deals, when teams trade a long contract for a short one in order to get salary relief sooner. An expiring contract might fetch a player like Gilbert Arenas or Baron Davis, but it won't fetch a player whose deal is also ending, like Carmelo Anthony.
So while the Knicks are still in the game for some of the biggest names in the NBA, it appears that Carmelo Anthony is not one of them.
Larry %##@ is the author of the NBA Salary Cap FAQ. Follow Larry on Twitter.
So this is the reality of the matter ppl.
Originally Posted by Seymore CAKE
Originally Posted by DubA169
if they really showed him that. plus one for us.
http://sports.yahoo.com/n...for-the-B?urn=nba,253378
Basically what you're saying is you think LeBron's a ({})
Originally Posted by Seymore CAKE
Originally Posted by DubA169
if they really showed him that. plus one for us.
http://sports.yahoo.com/n...for-the-B?urn=nba,253378
Basically what you're saying is you think LeBron's a ({})
Bulls just ethered themselves.Originally Posted by DubA169
Originally Posted by Seymore CAKE
Originally Posted by DubA169
if they really showed him that. plus one for us.
http://sports.yahoo.com/n...for-the-B?urn=nba,253378
Basically what you're saying is you think LeBron's a ({})
yes and no. i'm saying that it entirely shows that
1-MJ is bigger than the bulls
2- win one you have five to go
3- anything less than mike would be uncivilized
and bron has nowhere near the determination as Mike, so that $@@$ might look pretty damn daunting
You mean increased right? I did notice about how it only talks about it lowering and the restrictions that could happen. They also say 11.7 left if everything goes right and that wouldn't be enough to lure Anthony.Originally Posted by nYcHipHopHippo
it never mentioned that max contracts mite b changed with the new cba
Pretty good starting five should get the Knicks in the playoffs ! the only qustion is that Lebron James right now to go to New York is a long shott I just dont see it happening but again lets see how things play out..Originally Posted by Ballinsam23
how would you guys feel if we ran with.....
tony
mike miller
lebron
gallo
amare
Again we are thin on the front court, should have drafted Zoubek or Alabi...
Just touched down in NY, going to a Broadway Show tonight. Rock of Ages. It's going to be great. What else is good this evening? 14 minutes ago via Echofon
The Bulls meeting is over
Originally Posted by DubA169
if they really showed him that. plus one for us.
http://sports.yahoo.com/n...for-the-B?urn=nba,253378