2022 NBA Offseason Thread: Preseason kicks off; Things are fine in Los Angeles, Draymond beats the charges

[addict4sneakers]

Look at all of these pin downs. Look at him attacking closeouts. Klay doesn’t play like this?

 

[storm2006]

For y’all asking if Klay could have Ray’s 2001 run…I will ask you to answer if Ray Allen could score 60 points off 11 dribbles.

I know the immediate response will be “If he played with Steph and the GSW offense yes lol”. Which proves the point - senseless debate. We will never know what the they could do in the other’s shoes. The best you can reasonably do is pick one situationally.

If I have a very good team but need a SG to be my #1, based off what I have seen, I would lean Ray. If I have a very good/great team and need a #2 scorer who can heavily contribute offensively while not taking away from my #1 and can also lock up on the other end, I am going Klay.

The concept of “carrying a team” is overrated. Yes, there is a #1 on all of the championship teams, save for the Pistons and maybe the Spurs, but even that feeds into my point - it takes a village (ie the entire team). A single player might win you a series but not Dirk, Kawhi, Yanni, Lebby, hell - even Kobe and Jordan, could have done it without the collective production from the rest of their cast.

 

[dman14]

Ya acting like Ray didnt play on stacked teams his whole career

 

[wavycrocket]

Yep, that was a perfect storm of a season. Nate McMillian knew it and bailed to Portland that off-season.

Peja had a crazy year as a #1 option in like 04. Remember he averaged like 24, and might’ve got some mvp votes




With shooter-scorers like Peja/Reggie that lack handle, you gotta build a very specific team around them. It’s possible to have a path to some success with that.

 

[had pants]

had pants

 

[had pants]

 

[storm2006]

Peja had a crazy year as a #1 option in like 04. Remember he averaged like 24, and might’ve got some mvp votes




With shooter-scorers like Peja/Reggie that lack handle, you gotta build a very specific team around them. It’s possible to have a path to some success with that.

inb4

We were in peaceful harmony getting those Suit Bird jokes off and DCAllAfrican decided to go rogue and introduce chaos

 

[wavycrocket]

This roster winning 55 games and one game away from the WCF

Team building was different that year. But Peja went crazy. 24ppg-6rpg-2apg on 48%FG - 43%3FG - 93%FT

Brad Miller also was balling this year (another forgotten white American all star) and Bibby was still nice. Team in Live 04 used to get buckets

 

[tay1]

‘Shard that season was crazy. Luke Ridnour was there too right?

Crazy he was on them PEDs and missed a whole season

 

[datznasty]

 

[QU!K]

Ray Allen like 3rd in all-time game winning shots

 

[VARNELL HILL]

He doubled and tripled down

 

[DCAllAfrican]

Don't sleep on the Ray led Sonics in 2005.

One of my favorite teams ever.

 

[datznasty]

8%, if accurate, would still be higher than SLC and Portland wouldnt it. They all marry white women anyways so

 

[Coupé It]

Terrible trade.

 

[QU!K]

8%, if accurate, would still be higher than SLC and Portland wouldnt it. They all marry white women anyways so

And Phoenix

 

[moe200069]

klaydagawd been my favorite warrior of this run. dude just shows up and does the yeoman’s work. 37 points in a quarter on negative 4 dribbles, capable of a 60 point heater any game, should’ve been a perennial all-clamps team prior to his injuries.. dude is the greatest Robin to a Batman ever because he knows that’s his role and doesn’t fight it.

if we’re talking about all teammates and eras being equal and both players in their prime, i’m taking ray. klay’s lightyears better on defense but ray’s ability to handle and create his own shot makes it easier to build around him as a #1 option. klay’s goofy *** would average at least 2.5 dribbles off foot turnovers per game if he was the primary ball handler

 

[Based Jesus]

addict4sneakers picking up where Erupt left off

We're all getting Addicted™ on a beautiful friday morning

 

[moe200069]

brosizzle running russia’s trade machine

 

[addict4sneakers]

addict4sneakers picking up where Erupt left off

We're all getting Addicted™ on a beautiful friday morning

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[akajae]

Kyrie, I beg you.

 

[rolaholic]

Ray over Klay for me and it isn't even a hard decision

It's really not

 

[QU!K]

Ray got like 12k points on Klay too

 

[akajae]

Ray got like 12k points on Klay too

Yea, but how many dribbles did it take him to get to 12K? Exactly.

 

[addict4sneakers]

Comparing the point totals of an active player who missed 2 seasons to a guy that played 19 years is certainly a feat