I got multiple pairs so I was able to check out and compare each one. Some had a more puffy ankle padding (seems like it) and was tumbled and wrinkly. Others seem to feel less thick up top at the ankle and wasn't as tumbled, more of a flat leather plastic look with not really much wrinkles and tumble-ness. Did any of you guys notice that? I'm not sure what most of you guys prefer, but the tumbled/wrinkly thicker ankle padding one was pretty impressive...I think they feel better than my bred toe 1s and royal 1s but slightly under shattered backboards. I must be going insane, but I swear the pair with the puffier tumble padding leather on the ankle felt heavier in hand than the non-tumbled pair, gave it more of a premium feel.