2017 NBA FINALS THREAD. PART III

[MVP]

Myrie is a top 10 talent though. He just doesn't pass

6 assists a game isn't bad. That's about as much as Steph does. 

Also Shoe was cooking the books a bit, he's averaging 30/5/4 but it's on 49-41-85. KD though is doing 34/9/6 on 52/43/91. Just insane the performances that are taking place by the stars. 

 

[geno90221]

Kyrie MVP Talent


I will never understand why so many on this board are enamored with kyrie

one dimensional and will never be an alpha of his own team

He can shoot, best handles in the game and score in any way how is he 1 dimensional?

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

If Kyrie gets six assists it's because he passed the ball six times

 

[P C H]

3 days ago Cavs fans were asking if he was even top 15

Top 15 player and top 10 talent are separate discussions though

 

[addict4sneakers]

There's probably an ESPN stat for the last time Myrie threw a pocket pass

That's my main man though

 

[freeze]

kyrie is fun. but he's overrated af. His value depends only on the makeup of the team. Like, imo, he wouldn't really fit with gsw, unless its off the bench because he is so one dimensional. No off the ball skills, no real playmaking unless its for himself, and zero defense. He wouldn't work on the spurs either. but the cavs, with their iso heavy offense, he's perfect. He's one of the best iso players I've ever seen. Very very talented in that aspect. But when he's not in rhythm, dude is patrick swayze.

 

[geno90221]

Isn't Kyrie always

kyrie is fun. but he's overrated af. His value depends only on the makeup of the team. Like, imo, he wouldn't really fit with gsw, unless its off the bench because he is so one dimensional. No off the ball skills, no real playmaking unless its for himself, and zero defense. He wouldn't work on the spurs either. but the cavs, with their iso heavy offense, he's perfect. He's one of the best iso players I've ever seen. Very very talented in that aspect. But when he's not in rhythm, dude is patrick swayze.

isn't he always off the ball tho?
LeBron is the Acual PG of the team

 

[freeze]

Isn't Kyrie always

kyrie is fun. but he's overrated af. His value depends only on the makeup of the team. Like, imo, he wouldn't really fit with gsw, unless its off the bench because he is so one dimensional. No off the ball skills, no real playmaking unless its for himself, and zero defense. He wouldn't work on the spurs either. but the cavs, with their iso heavy offense, he's perfect. He's one of the best iso players I've ever seen. Very very talented in that aspect. But when he's not in rhythm, dude is patrick swayze.

isn't he always off the ball tho?
LeBron is the Acual PG of the team

Meh, he may not bring the ball up the full 94 feet, but he typically gets the rock at the top of the arch and goes from there on his own.

 

[Proposition Joe]

Myrie is a top 10 talent though. He just doesn't pass

I can easily name 10 players better than kyrie, and 5 of them would be point guards

 

[P C H]

I can easily name 10 players better than kyrie, and 5 of them would be point guards

They aren't as talented though. Those are two separate things

 

[drewsone]

I love Kyrie and he's a phenomenal 1 on 1 player.

But not much else unfortunately. I kinda feel he's a little better defensively than most people give him credit for though

 

[freeze]

top 10 talent?

handles-3pt shooting-ultra elite finisher at rim



Hmm

 

[SplinterMatic319]

Kyrie would be my 4th best PG behind Wall

 

[Verde Shuttles]

I kinda feel he's a little better defensively than most people give him credit for though

he's not

 

[P C H]

Kyrie would be my 4th best PG behind Wall

Yeah....Personally He would be closer to 10 than 4 because

Curry

Paul

Westbrook

Wall

Lillard

Conley

Lowry

All I think are superior point guards than Kyrie

 

[LebronHasMoreFinalsMVPs]

I can easily name 10 players better than kyrie, and 5 of them would be point guards

name the point guards

 

[nick.]

Kyrie would be my 4th best PG behind Wall

Yeah....Personally He would be closer to 10 than 4 because

Curry
Paul
Westbrook
Wall
Lillard
Conley
Lowry

All I think are superior point guards than Kyrie

 

[LebronHasMoreFinalsMVPs]

top 10 talent?

handles-3pt shooting-ultra elite finisher at rim



Hmm

they want more from him lol

 

[SplinterMatic319]

Yeah....Personally He would be closer to 10 than 4 because

Curry
Paul
Westbrook
Wall
Lillard
Conley
Lowry

All I think are superior point guards than Kyrie

Nah i cant have lowry or conley over him but it is arguable that Lillard is better now that i think about it

 

[MVP]

 
Yeah....Personally He would be closer to 10 than 4 because

Curry

Paul

Westbrook

Wall

Lillard

Conley

Lowry

All I think are superior point guards than Kyrie

I'd put him behind Dame. He has to get some boost cause he actually performs great in the playoffs. 

 

[addict4sneakers]

Nah Conley is a superior PG than Myrie

Myrie is the better talent though

 

[freeze]

here's the thing tho..if kyrie didnt have bron, would he still be high in yalls pg list? he gets the freedom of being able to be just a black hole scorer because bron handles all of his true responsibilities. Imagine if he actually had to be QB. yikes b

 

[Proposition Joe]

They aren't as talented though. Those are two separate things

So how do we draw the line between talent and being better? Flashy handles and nice finishes is the most notable talent but isn't the talent that makes you a great player.

 

[MVP]

here's the thing tho..if kyrie didnt have bron, would he still be high in yalls pg list? he gets the freedom of being able to be just a black hole scorer because bron handles all of his true responsibilities. Imagine if he actually had to be QB. yikes b

If you took Marc off of Memphis or Derozan off of Toronto would Lowry or Conley be on any list at all?

 

[SplinterMatic319]

here's the thing tho..if kyrie didnt have bron, would he still be high in yalls pg list? he gets the freedom of being able to be just a black hole scorer because bron handles all of his true responsibilities. Imagine if he actually had to be QB. yikes b

THIS.

kyrie would go back to 24-32 wins a year without lebron


PS Prime TMac is the ultimate black hole scorer