2016 Official NBA Off-Season Thread: Former Greatness

[pmatic]

Start Adams, Ilyasova, Durant, Roberson and Westbrook.

When it's time to close, go with Adams, Roberson, Durant, Oladipo and Westbrook.

 

[illoquent aka dsk]

Man trade rumours this year have been straight up ridiculous. More than previous years.

Wizards offering Noah a full max deal

Noel + Covington + filler for Teague
Noel + Covington + 2 first rounders for Celtics #3

There were more but I have no time to write out the rest. Plain stupid.

A day later and I still think the C's are buggin' for not jumping on that after the Jimmy talks fell through.

Dudes must really believe in Brown.

 

[IATT]

Start Adams, Ilyasova, Durant, Roberson and Westbrook.

When it's time to close, go with Adams, Roberson, Durant, Oladipo and Westbrook.

Id bring roberson off the bench and use him in a variey of roles

Primary backup at both sg and sf.. play him with kd/russ.. play him with payne/oladipo

Then you play him in the small ball lineup

 

[pmatic]

Start Adams, Ilyasova, Durant, Roberson and Westbrook.

When it's time to close, go with Adams, Roberson, Durant, Oladipo and Westbrook.

Id bring roberson off the bench and use him in a variey of roles

Primary backup at both sg and sf.. play him with kd/russ.. play him with payne/oladipo

Then you play him in the small ball lineup

Not getting the most value out of him unless they play a team with a scorer off the bench.

Minus whale let him start the game vs the best perimeter scorer on the other team.

Starting Oladipo just marginalizes him with Westbrook and Durant dominating the ball.

 

[IATT]

^ im thinking you stagger mins with guys.. where youre going have offense with defense

Hopefully payne and kanter can carry the bench scoring (with what we have now).. then you stagger starters with those units



So youll have a unit of say: payne oladipo roberson kanter and adams

 

[ill steelo]

 
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Harden also shot 39% from deep on high volume.

They don't need a 3 and D guy so bad that it negates everything else Oladipo brings.

It's madness to even suggest Oladipo is such a bad 3pt shooter that none of his other tools offset that or losing Ibaka.

OKC is heaps better with Oladipo for an array of reasons, but having to explain or argue for this is like trying to convince an atheist there really is a GOD, wasted words.

You don't need a 3 & D guy so bad when you already have two very high usage perimeter players who handle the ball a ton? When you have to beat the most prolific 3 point shooting team in the history of the sport?

To max his value, he needs to be on the ball. They already have two dudes for that. I don't like the fit at the expense of Serge.

 

[ill steelo]

Start Adams, Ilyasova, Durant, Roberson and Westbrook.

When it's time to close, go with Adams, Roberson, Durant, Oladipo and Westbrook.

Who was the last NBA champ to close games with only 1 reliable 3 point shooter?

 

[IATT]

Define reliable

 

[pmatic]

Start Adams, Ilyasova, Durant, Roberson and Westbrook.

When it's time to close, go with Adams, Roberson, Durant, Oladipo and Westbrook.

Who was the last NBA champ to close games with only 1 reliable 3 point shooter?

Certainly not ideal.

 

[Trey Bantz]

I've said all along that I think KD stays in OKC for another year, but last night's trade seals it. There is no better situation for him to be in than OKC right now.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Request to CP, can we get a list of all the free agents as well as restricted on the first page? With team and player options as well :]

Thanks in advance

Above and beyond would be trades but I'm pushing it I know

 

[651akathepaul]

Request to CP, can we get a list of all the free agents as well as restricted on the first page? With team and player options as well :]

Thanks in advance

Above and beyond would be trades but I'm pushing it I know

I'm sure he's got that readily available too though.

 

[slick vitale]

Hearing and reading Ibaka not being happy with his role, strained relationships with Durant and Westbrook, likely to leave OKC next year. Interesting.

I always got the sense he didn't get along with Westbrook. It seemed like they would bark at each other at least once every game 

 

[youngwolf]

OKC has about $12 million for FA after they resign KD.

They could have $20 million if they decline Ersan's option.

Lol, no.

 

[a-friend]

 You don't need a 3 & D guy so bad when you already have two very high usage perimeter players who handle the ball a ton? When you have to beat the most prolific 3 point shooting team in the history of the sport?

To max his value, he needs to be on the ball. They already have two dudes for that. I don't like the fit at the expense of Serge.

You need what Oladipo can offer late in games more than a 3 and D guy.

That's why I believe they just start Roberson and Oladipo is off the bench.

OKC didn't lose to GSW because they couldn't overcome the high% 3.

Serge was the most expendable and tradeable rotation player that the Thunder had.

 

[pmatic]

OKC didn't lose to GSW because they couldn't overcome the high% 3.

Thunder pretty much played the Warriors to a dead heat (even beat them in a few key categories), but the Warriors made it up with their three point shooting.

 

[a-friend]

Request to CP, can we get a list of all the free agents as well as restricted on the first page? With team and player options as well :]

Thanks in advance

Above and beyond would be trades but I'm pushing it I know

This would be an almost completely irrational request, if you were asking almost anybody else but CP

 

[pmatic]

Rose getting ready to be introduced to the NY media: http://www.nba.com/live1/

Also airing on ESPN News and NBA TV.

 

[a-friend]

 

OKC didn't lose to GSW because they couldn't overcome the high% 3.

Thunder pretty much played the Warriors to a dead heat (even beat them in a few key categories), but the Warriors made it up with their three point shooting.

When the series is over and you look at 3pt %, it's easy to say OKC lost because of that.

Perspective really, in a vacuum it's even logical.

Watching it play out though, OKC got murdered from 3 and were still in control most of that series, they withstood the 3 ball barrages, but their lack of 3pt didn't lose that series, we ALL know what lost them the series.

 

[IATT]

 

OKC didn't lose to GSW because they couldn't overcome the high% 3.

Thunder pretty much played the Warriors to a dead heat (even beat them in a few key categories), but the Warriors made it up with their three point shooting.

well that combined with our horrid 3 point shooting the last 2 games

then you look at where the bar is set, waiters whose role oladipo will be taking over (assuming) had the following the last 3 games:

game 5: 27 mins 0/4 fgs (0/1 on 3s)

game 6: 36 mins 1/5 fgs (1/3 on 3s)

game 7: 32 mins 2/9 fgs (0/5 on 3s)

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Loool. Thanks though CP that would be awesome

I tend to forget the non big names in free agency

 

[Based Jesus]

Loool. Thanks though CP that would be awesome

I tend to forget the non big names in free agency

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/

Because I can never remember all of them either

 

[awwsome]

So we're replacing Roberson with him? Where exactly is he playing?

if he's at the 2 then who is checking the 3s? KD? So then who's checking the 4s? Slow *** Ilyasova? Kanter?

Or we go KD at the 4, Roberson at the 3. If we then try to "set up" Oladipo like they did with Roberson, what exactly is Roberson's man going to do be doing in this scenario? Conceding the 3 to Roberson while roaming around & being disruptive right?

Dipo can run with the 2nd unit, but wasn't that the point of staggering KD & Russ's minutes and drafting Payne last year?

I just explained how they have enough money to sign a stretch four like Ryan Anderson, you move Roberson to the bench.


Yea staggering the minutes was good but with Oladipo you have even more options, I don't see how that's bad in anyway. He gives you the ability to sit Russ and KD, we saw how that worked for the Warriors.


Even in a lineup with him and Roberson, the athleticism and finishing ability will win out. It's not as if defenses are built to handle a Russ drive followed by an Oladipo drive.

Just with how help works, either Adams gets a dunk or KD gets a 3 and they will be the best rebounding lineup in the league by a large margin. The defensive talent is off the charts too.



OKC will be a juggernaut, I'm saying it now.


I'm trying to watch every game they have in NYC/PHI.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/

Because I can never remember all of them either

Thanks bro ill book mark when I get home

 

[atransta]

 
When the series is over and you look at 3pt %, it's easy to say OKC lost because of that.

Perspective really, in a vacuum it's even logical.

Watching it play out though, OKC got murdered from 3 and were still in control most of that series, they withstood the 3 ball barrages, but their lack of 3pt didn't lose that series, we ALL know what lost them the series.

Klay Thompson going off in game 6 

 and then he disappeared for most of the finals