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2016 Academy Awards/Oscars - Nominees Announced Today - February 28th
No he didn't
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TRUTH! Lol
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I'd have to add the new King of Wakanda to this list. He was pretty damn good in 42
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I went to google and typed in "best black actresses" because I honestly couldn't think of any GOOD ones. What names appears in the mix you ask? Stacey Dash. That's all I needed to hear
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This is not the "worst possible outcome"
What? Are you crazy?
So black actors/directors getting a an award that could lead to exposure/future opportunities for black actors in the future, that the worst possible outcome really?
These oscars are highly political, they given out token nominations ALL THE TIME, it's embedded in the history of the institutions, these aren't pure merit based awards handed down by god.
I just finished a book on the the 1969 oscar race, the **** they did to get "Doctor Doolittle" an oscar nom had nothing to do with making a good movie.
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This is not the "worst possible outcome"
What? Are you crazy?
So black actors/directors getting a an award that could lead to exposure/future opportunities for black actors in the future, that the worst possible outcome really?
These oscars are highly political, they given out token nominations ALL THE TIME, it's embedded in the history of the institutions, these aren't pure merit based awards handed down by god.
I just finished a book on the the 1969 oscar race, the **** they did to get "Doctor Doolittle" an oscar nom had nothing to do with making a good movie.
No, the worst possible outcome is the next time a black actor, actress or director wins (?) people are gonna treat it like there's an asterisk on it. A throw away smh
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It's been mentioned, but the bigger issue isn't the lack of people of color being nominated, but that they're simply not cast in enough movies.
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Thats correct, but the oscars are also an issue because
take Teyonah Parris from Chi-Raq and Saoirse Roman from Brooklyn as an example. roughly equivalent performances Imo.
Saoirse Ronan is got this nomination for best actress but she won't win, she was good in the movie, and with or without thst nomination her career is off to a good start.
but if Teyonah Parris her whole life changes, she might not suddenly become americas sweetheart like Lupita N'yongo but it mzake it more difficult for hollywood to ingnore her. So even if you think Saoirse was better in Brooklyn would it be the worst thing if Teuonah Parris got it insterad? Obviously not.
The Oscars have a role to play here and they absolutely deserve criticism even if they aren't the biggest problem.
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You can't think of good black female actresses because they are getting less roles than black men. It's hard to rate when they are subjected to Tyler Perry movies.
Off top I would say Viola Davis, Jurnee Smollett, Tessa Thompson, Octavia Spencer? Idk maybe some others
Why isn't Shonda Rhimes being acknowledge in Hollywood for literally having 3 prime time shows back to back on ABC on the same night that got renewed for multiple seasons? That is amazing
Off top I would say Viola Davis, Jurnee Smollett, Tessa Thompson, Octavia Spencer? Idk maybe some others
Why isn't Shonda Rhimes being acknowledge in Hollywood for literally having 3 prime time shows back to back on ABC on the same night that got renewed for multiple seasons? That is amazing
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Old dude wanted to know of any good black actresses , ok here goes:
Kerry Washington
Viola Davis
Octavia Spencer
CCH Pounder
Oprah
Thandie Newton
Tessa Thompson
Nicole Belharie
Tarji P Henson
Halle Berry
Sanaa Lathan
Nia Long
Regina King
Cicley Tyson
Jennifer Hudson
Lupita Nynogo
Ruby Davis ( RIP )
Jada Pinkett Smith
Sharon Leal
Naomie Harris
Zoe Krazitz
Gabrielle Union
Angela Bassett
Pam Grier
And these are just the one's I can think of off hand. So there is no shortage of talented black actresses.
Kerry Washington
Viola Davis
Octavia Spencer
CCH Pounder
Oprah
Thandie Newton
Tessa Thompson
Nicole Belharie
Tarji P Henson
Halle Berry
Sanaa Lathan
Nia Long
Regina King
Cicley Tyson
Jennifer Hudson
Lupita Nynogo
Ruby Davis ( RIP )
Jada Pinkett Smith
Sharon Leal
Naomie Harris
Zoe Krazitz
Gabrielle Union
Angela Bassett
Pam Grier
And these are just the one's I can think of off hand. So there is no shortage of talented black actresses.
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Of course, I wasn't suggesting that the lack of roles was the issue and the Oscars problem should be ignored.
And I agree with your previous comment, nominating more actors of color even when they're not the favorites or expected to win should be more common. No one is asking to nominate a clearly subpar performance simply because they're a minority, but it's a far more positive thing to see more diversity in the nominations and especially in the voting. I know it's something they've been trying to and moving towards in the past.
And you're right, plenty of nominations are either legacy based or simply because they were a big name in a well-reviewed and popular Oscar film... and in those cases, what's the harm in voting more minorities in.
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Out of all those the only names that stand out are Beharie and Regina King (of course Viola). Kerry Washington just doesn't do it for me. I really liked American Violet with Beharie. First time I seen it (shout out to hollywood videos 3 for $20) I said she could be a great black actress. I always liked Regina King. I always thought she just needed a breakout role. Always thought she had the chops. Rest are so-so IMO. Nothing really good about any of them. Angela Bassett is probably the top of this group by default
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Real tears b
I let out a howl seeing two posts in a row list dudes when asked for females.Don't they give her shows awards all the time at the Emmys? or at least nominate them?
Also I don't think Shonda's feat is a first (a first for a black person sure). Shonda gets her praise and she's acknowledged by being able to make more shows and exec produce on other projects. Her role doesn't get as much praise in Hollywood.
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Jennifer Lawrence can fit right in the middle of this "so so" list though, yet she always nominated.
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Yes and No.
Lawrence is a really talented actress. People might be tired of her and dislike her comments, but she's typically deserving of the praise. I was iffy on American Hustle, but the rest of her nominations for Winter's Bone, Silver Linings Playbook, and Joy were all deserving and stand-out performances.
Lawrence is a really talented actress. People might be tired of her and dislike her comments, but she's typically deserving of the praise. I was iffy on American Hustle, but the rest of her nominations for Winter's Bone, Silver Linings Playbook, and Joy were all deserving and stand-out performances.
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If undeserving roles by black actors and undeserving black directors start getting quota nominations based off their race they will not reap the benefits of being Oscar nominees.
The word would be out. "We threw the blacks a nom to avoid more controversy"
Besides think about what that can lead to if it did happen. An actor or director that is undeserving, quality already in question getting more roles and opportunities in the business over actually truly talented actors and directors who are still not getting that call to be cast in roles or helm a project isn't helping anybody.
This on it's own is a good point. Actors who just get noms get more opportunities and it can springboard careers.
Thing is then we're getting back to subjectivity. I won't act like I know what goes on with the voters or know the history of them handing out token nominations or studios doing w/e they can to get something nominated but just from a taste stand point I'd like it to be these nominees got it cuz they were all deserving. We need to get to a point where snubs are a thing cuz there were so many great movies/performances/directors in a given year. Not cuz it's extremely political and there's an embedded racism to that process.
Cuz if it's really just about playing the political game with token nominations I would assume some influential black ppl in the business could have somebody put in place to address that and grease the wheels for black actors and directors.
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So the question is, can you get a good script for a black woman in a white film? Cause let's be real here, there's not a lot of Oscar worthy black films. We put out 50 films and 49 be wack. Whites will put out 200 films and 20 are decent. Just being honest here. It's far more likely an actress wins it in a white film than black film. Is it really the oscars fault? Or is it ours? Would straight outta Compton be great if it were a white film? To me, straight outta Compton is great by black standards (based on what we seem to put out) but in a pool of great films, does it swim? I feel we just gotta say hey, let's focus on putting out great films. We don't have the room for error that white films do because like I said, they can afford to put out crappy movies because they're making multiple times the total amount of films we are. They're making more crappy films but they're also making more good films.
Side note: can't wait for Black Panther to come out. Will probably be the highest grossing black film of all time
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Chris Rock made a great point about this that really opened my eyes to how ****** up it is for black women in particular.
When True Detective said they were casting a female characters as the detectives, they were a whole bunch of names mentioned, did anyone, mention or even THINK to mention a single black women? Were their any rumors about possible black candidates.
for a film franchise that was set in lousisiana, and los anageles, in role that had nothing to do with race and we well just reflexively started mentioning white women. very few hispanic and almost black women.
I was guilty of it myself, I was never thought of black female actresses either.
When True Detective said they were casting a female characters as the detectives, they were a whole bunch of names mentioned, did anyone, mention or even THINK to mention a single black women? Were their any rumors about possible black candidates.
for a film franchise that was set in lousisiana, and los anageles, in role that had nothing to do with race and we well just reflexively started mentioning white women. very few hispanic and almost black women.
I was guilty of it myself, I was never thought of black female actresses either.
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This. It's not really about diversity per say, its about numbers at this point. there are many talented black actors/actress. there's just not enough films being produced. This goes for any minority group i think.
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C'mon man. Read the first part of the post again.
Real tears bI let out a howl seeing two posts in a row list dudes when asked for females.
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I don't buy that because the the Oscars have been giving out specious Oscars to advance the political/economic goals of the film industry FOREVER,
I'm obviously not advocating for completly undeserving candidates but in a largley subjective medium, I think if it's close and you got mostly white people nominated would it suddenley devalue the oscars to include a person of color instead? I think not.
Also the oscars has great branding, it has a position in the culture that makes it seem like they have been an institution whose primary purpose was decide what were the best and most important movies and performances.
It's not true. It's a highly political organization that gives out token nominations ALL THE TIME.
I just read "Pictures at a Revolution" and I mentioned that Doctor Doolittle got nominated even though it was a garbage movie. basically because movie executives wanted to save face. so they bought key voters dinners and secured the nomination.
Cleopatra (whit people pretending to be Egyptians) got nominated for best picture in 1963, even though it was a garbage movie AND a financial bomb basically because the movie industry didn't want to show weakness in their business model of big roadshow costume dramas.
there are countless examples of this.
The primary purpose is to advanced the goals of the industry as a WHOLE, and if divirsity is important to the industry the it makes sense that they would make an effort to include people of colour.
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All I know is dude who played Eazy E in Straight Outta Compton shoulda got a nod somewhere lol. Im guessing best Supporting Role. I aint see Concussion but that movie dont get no respect from me since they reportedly took stuff outta the movie at the NFLs request 
Hate that this became another race thread tho
Hate that this became another race thread tho
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That's real.
I've noticed white female actors are being pushed and getting the chance to star in lead roles. Hollywood has seemed to address that, with the criticism of the belcher test etc. Amy Shumer, Mellisa Mcarthy, Rebel Wilson etc are all getting greenlit for major budget films and considered for other roles. I will say, that critics tend to overrate their movies a bit....but they're at least getting an opportunity. Even my girl Jillian from workaholics got her own show
.We can't think of ONE black actress that Hollywood would put their money behind or give an opportunity as a lead...and there are very few black of even minority male leads Hollywood would put their money behind as well.
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I'm surprised Ksteezy hasn't come in here yet to tell us that Blacks are racist too and that the BET awards are racist.
