2015 Mercedes Benz C-Class * S-Inspired - Coupe Pics *C63 Officially Released*

[rfx45]

Heck I just saw KBBs test and it actually took 6.6 second to get to 60. Granted it's the 4-matic but I figure all-wheel drive would be faster and if not, I don't know if the rwd will be a whole second faster. Every other reviews reports 0-60 in the 6s from what I am seeing.

The C300 4Matic is powered by a turbocharged 2.0-liter four-cylinder producing 241 horsepower and 272 lb-ft of torque, which is good for a 0 to 62 mph sprint in under 6.6 seconds.

 

[al audi]

Damn 6.6


What is the new IS doing?

 

[rfx45]

The new IS doesn't have a new engine so it's V6 is still from the old one and cranking up 7 seconds to 60 iirc. I don't see that changing until they put a new engine in it.



I also find it funny that at $1000 less friscofinest would say it would have less equipment when he just said the 328i is the XBox 360 to C300s XBox One and obviously the new one is just more expensive because it's the newest, doesn't necessarily mean standard equipment isn't the same or even less on the more expensive and newest version. The F30 is 2-3 years old now so of course it'll be cheaper and likely have the same or more standard equipment just like the next 3-series in a few years will like start $39k-$40k and have the same standard equipment as the new C300 today. That's just how car pricing goes in their own segments.

 

[yung16]

im not really an engine buff i just like driving cars with nice features. What does it matter how fast the car gets to 60 if im not racing and on american interstates where the speed limit suck balls?

 

[rfx45]

im not really an engine buff i just like driving cars with nice features. What does it matter how fast the car gets to 60 if im not racing and on american interstates where the speed limit suck balls?

Ok, go try and drive a Prius that hit 60 in 12 seconds and then drive one that gets it in mid 5s and then tell me the difference.There is a reason everyone is begging for an extra 30-40 HP on the FRS/BRZ because it does make a difference.

At the end of the day, it's all about what your car is capable of, whether you utilize it or not. This is exactly the basis of "any car can get you from point A to point B" and if you're going to really argue that then you are in the wrong thread, this is an entry level luxury vehicle afterall (though not really entry level anymore since they have a cheaper car slotted below now).

If comfort is all you want/need, then that is fine but to start a "do you really need this much hp" is a bit absurd. I mean would you really buy this car at $40k if it has 130hp but still had all those options? I highly doubt it.

 

[Thats My Word]

7 seconds for the IS? That's gotta be the numbers for the 250, not 350, yeah?

 

[rfx45]

Yah 250. I believe the 350 FSport gets to 60 in about 5.2seconds.

 

[frank mucus]

Ok, go try and drive a Prius that hit 60 in 12 seconds and then drive one that gets it in mid 5s and then tell me the difference.There is a reason everyone is begging for an extra 30-40 HP on the FRS/BRZ because it does make a difference.

At the end of the day, it's all about what your car is capable of, whether you utilize it or not. This is exactly the basis of "any car can get you from point A to point B" and if you're going to really argue that then you are in the wrong thread, this is an entry level luxury vehicle afterall (though not really entry level anymore since they have a cheaper car slotted below now).

If comfort is all you want/need, then that is fine but to start a "do you really need this much hp" is a bit absurd. I mean would you really buy this car at $40k if it has 130hp but still had all those options? I highly doubt it.

All this.

Drove the M3 today and I miss the instant torque and faster acceleration of my electric car.

This C-Class looks really good though.

 

[rfx45]

I've driven the Tesla S many times and that is one quick sedan off the line, I just wish it made some noise or a roar.

 

[yung16]

Ok, go try and drive a Prius that hit 60 in 12 seconds and then drive one that gets it in mid 5s and then tell me the difference.There is a reason everyone is begging for an extra 30-40 HP on the FRS/BRZ because it does make a difference.

At the end of the day, it's all about what your car is capable of, whether you utilize it or not. This is exactly the basis of "any car can get you from point A to point B" and if you're going to really argue that then you are in the wrong thread, this is an entry level luxury vehicle afterall (though not really entry level anymore since they have a cheaper car slotted below now).

If comfort is all you want/need, then that is fine but to start a "do you really need this much hp" is a bit absurd. I mean would you really buy this car at $40k if it has 130hp but still had all those options? I highly doubt it.

actually i would. I currently own a CLA. I dont care about the HP. I have some great features in it. thats why i purchased it. My car was 40k before taxes, warranty, and maintenance and 50k afterwards. Its all about pref i guess. I just never understood why people want much much more hp, but then they arent allowed to do anything with it in the US.

 

[Thats My Word]

Someone should come out with an app for the tesla that makes engine noises through the sound system.

 

[rfx45]

That just isn't true, you can do canyon runs or just spirited driving when you can (as safe as possible), you can also go to tracks and drive your heart out whether on a strip to drag race or just whip your car in an actual course, there are even competitive ones out there.


At the end of the day, you need/want that overtaking power or just that quick launch off the line and you want power to go along with the price you are paying. I am not one to race in red lights but I do hate it when it takes forever for the car to get going.

The CLA is still rated at 208 hp and 0-60 is at high 6s? That is faster than an IS250 and still way above the average in comparison to the most common vehicles out there like the Camry, Accord & Mazda6 and the speed widens further when compared to Corolla or the Civic. Trust me, the power difference between 130 and 210 is huge. I bet you wouldn't say that if your CLA has 80 less HP especially at that weight and you start hauling 3 other people plus baggage and that 130hp would be coughing up like it has asthma.


Again I get that you want/prefer features and comfort over power but to completely dismiss it is ridiculous. I guarantee you that if they price these cars the same and the power is significantly less (100 hp less), it isn't going to sell well.

 

[usabasketball08]

actually i would. I currently own a CLA. I dont care about the HP. I have some great features in it. thats why i purchased it. My car was 40k before taxes, warranty, and maintenance and 50k afterwards. Its all about pref i guess. I just never understood why people want much much more hp, but then they arent allowed to do anything with it in the US.

If you don't mind me asking, what model + options did you get?

50K total seems like a lot to pay for a CLA, even with options and all. It just seems like there are better vehicles at that 40K price point, but then again it's all a matter of preference.

The CLA45 AMG starts at $47K, but I'm not sure what's included and how much maintenance, warranties, etc. add on.

 

[yung16]

If you don't mind me asking, what model + options did you get?

50K total seems like a lot to pay for a CLA, even with options and all. It just seems like there are better vehicles at that 40K price point, but then again it's all a matter of preference.

The CLA45 AMG starts at $47K, but I'm not sure what's included and how much maintenance, warranties, etc. add on.

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[SORIANOTRON]

LOL 50K for a CLA


coulda dropped 50k and got a testarossa

 

[picasso swerve]

actually i would. I currently own a CLA. I dont care about the HP. I have some great features in it. thats why i purchased it. My car was 40k before taxes, warranty, and maintenance and 50k afterwards. Its all about pref i guess. I just never understood why people want much much more hp, but then they arent allowed to do anything with it in the US.

Then you arent an enthusiast, which is fine. But how you gonna question people's want for HP? 

Talked my friend out of a CLA, too damn small. Front, rear, side looks nice when you look at them seperate but looking at it togther...nah. I told him hes gonna look funny being a grown *** man weighing 240 coming out of that little *** car.

 

[yung16]

Then you arent an enthusiast, which is fine. But how you gonna question people's want for HP? 

Talked my friend out of a CLA, too damn small. Front, rear, side looks nice when you look at them seperate but looking at it togther...nah. I told him hes gonna look funny being a grown *** man weighing 240 coming out of that little *** car.

Aight like I said preference. I was just asking. To ME hp doesn't matter because I can't use it. I rather features over power. That's why I am going to get this C it has more features. Again, it's ME.

 

[friscosfinest]

Well I thought we were just talking about "HP" benchmark.

But if you're going to talk about the overall car, you'd be insane to think the 3-series isn't the categories benchmark. Everyone is always trying to catch up to the 3-series and until it is unseated on the top, no one else can call anything else the benchmark in it's genre.

The new F30 might be it's worst iteration of itself in decades (though that is still up to debate, many says it's the worst but just as many says its the best) but it still stands as the best of the crowd. I mean I don't even know how you can say it's going to be faster when you just said the new C300 will hit 60 in the upper 5's but the 328i is already in the middle 5s, 5.5-5.6 to be exact.

To be the best you got to beat the best and that has yet to be done.

When I meant "lighter bigger faster" I meant that against its own predecessor, not against the 3 series. The 328i is an unusually quick car. I think BMW hit its peak with the E90. The F30 doesnt feel like a successor, even though its newer. Just IMHO.

LOL 50K for a CLA


coulda dropped 50k and got a testarossa

the pic he linked was actually 40k. and who the **** would buy a used OLD ferrari to be their one and only daily driver? smh..

Heck I just saw KBBs test and it actually took 6.6 second to get to 60. Granted it's the 4-matic but I figure all-wheel drive would be faster and if not, I don't know if the rwd will be a whole second faster. Every other reviews reports 0-60 in the 6s from what I am seeing.

Numbers arent official because mercedes isnt allowing testing of them yet until they do some "fine tuning". The info they are giving is based on the W205 C250 which has the same CLA 2.0L good for 208hp. I can quote from Car and Driver :

 Mercedes claims a 0-to-60 time of 6.6 seconds for the C250, and although we can’t verify that number, we can tell you the engine pulls eagerly and shifts snick off transparently under light throttle.

Without a doubt the new C300 is going to be quicker, in the sub 6 second range. And usually manufacturer claims are a little "underrated".

 

[friscosfinest]

 
Then you arent an enthusiast, which is fine. But how you gonna question people's want for HP? 

Talked my friend out of a CLA, too damn small. Front, rear, side looks nice when you look at them seperate but looking at it togther...nah. I told him hes gonna look funny being a grown *** man weighing 240 coming out of that little *** car.

Lol.. Horsepower isnt everything. Thats just what "sells" the car. Power to weight, and how/which wheels the power is delivered to is the main factor.

If you wanna get specific.. you actually prefer Torque (which the CLA has ALOT of..almost 270lb ft). Torque is what actually moves the damn car.

Aight like I said preference. I was just asking. To ME hp doesn't matter because I can't use it. I rather features over power. That's why I am going to get this C it has more features. Again, it's ME.

You are certainly right. And I applaud your maturity. People go ape **** over a hellcat challenger with 700hp when they probably couldnt even master a civic si on a track.

I personally love the CLA. Dealers right now (especially mercedes dealers) will pay top dollar for a used CLA, because they're all sold out. Customers are getting frustrated coming to the dealer and not having any to buy.

 

[frank mucus]

$50k for a CLA though...

You're reaching E-Class and 5 Series range though.

 

[usabasketball08]

the pic he linked was actually 40k. and who the **** would buy a used OLD ferrari to be their one and only daily driver? smh..

He said it came out to around $50K with taxes, warranty, etc.

 

[rfx45]

I really see that as "maturity" rather it is nitpicking and to some extent, not understanding.

I mean we are talking about 200 to 300 hp here, not some absurd 500+ muscle car you can't use on the streets. 200-300 hp isn't out of the norm for regular driving and you can feel that in overtaking someone, acceleration needed to get on the freeways, etc... You don't need to be on the drag strip or the track to enjoy 300 hp. Like I said before, if the CLA has 80-100 less HP, I doubt dude would buy that car or even enjoy it much. That'll be moving like a Prius and who would pay $40k-$50 "luxury" vehicle that would run that slow?

If you don't understand and do not think you can utilize an extra 40-50 hp on a 200 hp car in real life driving then you just aren't much into cars and discussing it would be a waste of time. Again the discussion wasn't about 500+ hp being put on the C-Class.


On an unrelated note, I personally hate that the CLA is a FWD and I am not liking the trend happening with the A3, Q3, NX and I think the new GLA will also have FWD along with their turbo I4 engines. I am so happy that the X1, 1-series and 2-series are still RWD.

When I meant "lighter bigger faster" I meant that against its own predecessor, not against the 3 series. The 328i is an unusually quick car. I think BMW hit its peak with the E90. The F30 doesnt feel like a successor, even though its newer. Just IMHO.

The difference is that BMW actually took a step down, they tried to sell more cars instead of staying the top of the heap. Overall, it is still a successor just for the simple fact that the 3-series trend moving forward have been to get bigger, wider, longer and more hp and the F30 did just that. But through the generations, they've been sacrificing the driving experience which is bound to happen as the car gets bigger. They seem content in letting the 1-series and 2-Series and M3 take the reigns when it comes to driving experience and let the 3-Series be more of a luxury car. So in a way they are shooting themselves in the foot but it results in more sales so they're happy either way.

I just think Benz has a very long way to go to become the benchmark for it's class.

 

[al audi]

Aight like I said preference. I was just asking. To ME hp doesn't matter because I can't use it. I rather features over power. That's why I am going to get this C it has more features. Again, it's ME.

Most of us on NT are into cars more than the avg consumer.

 

[friscosfinest]

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I really see that as "maturity" rather it is nitpicking and to some extent, not understanding.

I mean we are talking about 200 to 300 hp here, not some absurd 500+ muscle car you can't use on the streets. 200-300 hp isn't out of the norm for regular driving and you can feel that in overtaking someone, acceleration needed to get on the freeways, etc... You don't need to be on the drag strip or the track to enjoy 300 hp. Like I said before, if the CLA has 80-100 less HP, I doubt dude would buy that car or even enjoy it much. That'll be moving like a Prius and who would pay $40k-$50 "luxury" vehicle that would run that slow?

If you don't understand and do not think you can utilize an extra 40-50 hp on a 200 hp car in real life driving then you just aren't much into cars and discussing it would be a waste of time. Again the discussion wasn't about 500+ hp being put on the C-Class.


On an unrelated note, I personally hate that the CLA is a FWD and I am not liking the trend happening with the A3, Q3, NX and I think the new GLA will also have FWD along with their turbo I4 engines. I am so happy that the X1, 1-series and 2-series are still RWD.
The difference is that BMW actually took a step down, they tried to sell more cars instead of staying the top of the heap. Overall, it is still a successor just for the simple fact that the 3-series trend moving forward have been to get bigger, wider, longer and more hp and the F30 did just that. But through the generations, they've been sacrificing the driving experience which is bound to happen as the car gets bigger. They seem content in letting the 1-series and 2-Series and M3 take the reigns when it comes to driving experience and let the 3-Series be more of a luxury car. So in a way they are shooting themselves in the foot but it results in more sales so they're happy either way.

I just think Benz has a very long way to go to become the benchmark for it's class.

Your opinion is very respectable, but still an opinion.

It's hard to judge the new C-Class without actually sitting in it, but looking at the specs, you have to admit its looking QUITE good. (aside the fact that its the best looking entry level luxury sedan on the market)

And whats with the FWD hate? Do people actually hate it? Or just the fact that "everyone else" hates it?

FWD = More power, less weight, increased MPG and safety.

sounds like win - win - win and WIN to me.

Yeah, you cant stagger your aftermarket rims, and yeah when you do a burnout it looks a bit strange. But the benefits of FWD (when not racing) are massive. Plus its actually cheaper to make as well.

I love a good RWD car, but an entry level car like the CLA being FWD is not an issue. Sometimes people read too much into Car and Driver, and Road and Track. These are for the TRACK, not for a daily driver. FWD is a great platform.

 

[rfx45]

I mean it's all opinion really so I don't take any offense. Looks are subjective too and I do love this S-Class baby. I love the CLA too, if you go to that thread that is evident, I just didn't like how it drove and that it's FWD.

To me, the specs just doesn't stand out. It's just too similar to the 328i and the ****** on the Benz isn't the greatest either (same case with the CLA).

One thing is for sure though, the C-Class interior is miles better than the 3-series, was never really a fan of it. Wasn't a big fan of the F30 look too, the headlight connecting tot he kidneys took a while for me to like or get accustomed to.