2014 NBA Off-Season; Paul George suffers a double-compund-fracture, likely out for season. Speedy re

[finallyfamous]

Yall got this season....but it's not too late for lebron and/or love to get backstage passes for Kobe's farewell tour

Your move, Cleveland

you're high as ****

 

[akhi]

If Kobe remains somewhat healthy, no way he will retire after this contract... he's not leaving all that bread on the table.

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

werent they saying the new cap woul be close to $90 mill?

This is still a fluid situation but all signs point to about a 16 mil increase from the current cap. Where did you get the 90 mil cap from? Check this out:

After years of steady growth followed by stagnancy until this year, the salary cap rocketing upward could cause all sorts of complications. Already, players – including LeBron James – are structuring their contracts to take advantage of the predicted high cap.

However, the NBA has other ideas.

Zach Lowe of Grantland:

Executives on lots of teams have gotten the sense from the league office that the NBA will try to smooth the increase of the cap level to minimize the impact of any massive one-year jump in revenue. Exactly how it would do that is unclear. The precise team salary cap — $58 million last season, $63 million this season — is tied to overall league revenues; the two rise and fall together. Players are guaranteed about 50 percent of the league’s “basketball-related income,” and the league and union set the cap figure so player salaries add up to a number in that 50 percent ballpark.

The league’s specific plan for smoothing out the cap increase is unclear, and in the end, it may opt against doing so at all. The players will receive their guaranteed 50 percent share of revenues regardless of any engineering.

There are a lot of roadblocks to smoothing the cap’s growth.

The cap is set by formula based on league-wide revenue. The only way, under the current rules, for the cap to be less is for revenues to be less.

Perhaps, the NBA could bargain with the National Basketball Players Association, offering a higher percentage of revenues in future years in exchange for the players getting a reduced cut in 2016-17. But only current players would be voting on that proposal, and they want the money coming in while they’re still in the league.

Kevin Pelton of ESPN has suggested the NBA structure its new TV deal so the money arrives in strategic stages rather than too much at once, but that runs into a similar issue. I can’t see current owners deferring revenue they could get sooner than later just to keep some of it from the players.

Adam Silver has frequently called the players “partners” in the league’s growth. In the end, I think he’ll have to heed those words and watch the salary cap – and therefore, player salaries – suddenly soar as the owners get a huge influx of revenue.

It’s not a bad problem for anyone involved.

All hell would break loose if they somehow tried to back load the contract. I don't see that happening

 

[Bert.]

I didnt say exactly 90. It was one of the known guys, forgot who this was about 2 months back. they were throwing numbers in the 80-90 million area.

 

[sogood]

What's wrong with Kemba......dudes a baller imo.

Shooting under 40% isn't exactly a good thing...

Kemba is better than Monta Ellis

Not sure what that has to do with anything, but it's still false.

 

[pdino]

Revenue split - you buy a jersey, 57% went to the players, this was lowered to 51% to the players.

Luxury tax - prior it was 1 dollar for every dollar you went over the tax. The big market teams would ignore the tax because they're making bank. The tax was changed to incrementally raise up to 3.75$ - 1$, and an extra dollar 4.75$-1$ for repeating year after year. Bkn, the most exaggerated example whose russian billionaire ignored the tax, is paying his players ~100,000,000$ total, getting taxed over 200,000,000$. This money that is taxed is split by non-tax paying teams.

"8 Teams lost money last year: 

Orlando ($2 million loss)
Sacramento ($3 million)
New York ($3.5 million)
Charlotte ($8 million)
Detroit ($12 million)
Atlanta ($13 million)
D.C. ($13 million)
Brooklyn ($144 million)

On the other end of the spectrum, Lowe reports that the most profitable team in the NBA this season was the suddenly terrible (at least on the court) Los Angeles Lakers, with $100.1 million in profits. Here's the rest of the top five:
2. Chicago ($61 million)
3. Houston ($40.7 million)
4. Boston ($33.1 million)
5. Oklahoma City ($29 million)"

Overall, NBA is profitable again for owners, and there's not a good argument for owners to not increase the new cap.

 

[antidope]

Players strike is coming, but what kind of headway can they make? The owners can hold out for longer than the players can, I dont think theyre going to push the revenue split in their favour as much as they would like to.

 

[BIG LEEMELONE]

I didnt say exactly 90. It was one of the known guys, forgot who this was about 2 months back. they were throwing numbers in the 80-90 million area.

It's still possible for the cap to further increase, pending another profitable source of revenue such as sponsors on jerseys

 

[SneakerProSr.]

These dudes ain't striking.

They can't miss a full year of income.

If they had the balls to strike they wouldn't have signed the current CBA in the first place.

The average NBA player's salary is going to explode. Them dudes ain't missing a year of checks so Kobe can get an extra 5 million a year.

I've never been so confident so something sports related in my life.

 

[mjsaver]

What's wrong with Kemba......dudes a baller imo.

Shooting under 40% isn't exactly a good thing...

Is that the be all end all of a good player ?

 

[statis22]

Players strike is coming, but what kind of headway can they make? The owners can hold out for longer than the players can, I dont think theyre going to push the revenue split in their favour as much as they would like to.

Nba players aren't striking.

 

[dipsetgeneral]

Kemba is better than Monta Ellis

Kemba is not better than Monta...

I see James Young still loves to shoot.

Olynyk still looking like a lesbian Jesus,


Sully got that 3pt range now though?


Rebuilding Celtics going to be fun to watch.

We gunnin' for those last 7-8th seed spots in the East.

 

[mister friendly]

Kemba rebounds, assists, plays defense better and turns over the ball less than Monta

 

[sea manup]

but does kemba has it all?

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Kemba rebounds, assists, plays defense better and turns over the ball less than Monta

Can you explain why you're randomly choosing to compare a point guard to a shooting guard

 

[mister friendly]

They were both point guards last year

 

[julius wrek]

 

[mjsaver]

We compare players across positions all the time, that's nothing new to this forum.

 

[heliumclinton]

Please tell me this is photoshop

This has to be the part of the hair transplant where they say your hair falls out

 

[nelson999]

From this:

 

to this:

in like 2 weeks?

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

They were both point guards last year

So Jose Caulderon played shooting guard last year?

We compare players across positions all the time, that's nothing new to this forum.

Sure, but in this instance I'm asking him why he's choosing to. It makes little sense in any case, as being better than Monta doesn't say much

 

[Bert.]

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im not obsessed with hair lines like yall but damn bruh, he gotta shave that, thhats not a good look

 

[mister friendly]

According to Basketball reference...... yes..... Calderon did

My point is that Kemba is a good player, a borderline All Star caliber player like Monta Ellis

 

[everysingletime]

These dudes ain't striking.

They can't miss a full year of income.

If they had the balls to strike they wouldn't have signed the current CBA in the first place.

The average NBA player's salary is going to explode. Them dudes ain't missing a year of checks so Kobe can get an extra 5 million a year.

I've never been so confident so something sports related in my life.

A full yr?

These dudes can't even miss a month of income, the way they spend.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

According to Basketball reference...... yes..... Calderon did

My point is that Kemba is a good player, a borderline All Star caliber player like Monta Ellis

Top Five-Man Floor Units

#	Unit	Min	Off	Def	+/-	W	L	Win%
1	Calderon-Ellis-Marion-Nowitzki-Dalembert	844	1.10	1.10	-3	28	33	45
2	Calderon-Ellis-Carter-Marion-Dalembert	257	1.03	1.08	-22	23	30	43
3	Calderon-Ellis-Marion-Nowitzki-Blair	228	1.15	1.15	-1	22	22	50
4	Calderon-Ellis-Carter-Marion-Blair	182	1.06	1.09	-26	22	29	43
5	Calderon-Ellis-Carter-Marion-Wright	101	1.04	1.27	-44	12	19	38
6	Calderon-Ellis-Marion-Nowitzki-Wright	77	1.16	1.29	-12	10	9	52
7	Calderon-Ellis-Crowder-Nowitzki-Dalembert	66	1.08	1.06	4	5	5	50
8	Calderon-Ellis-Carter-Nowitzki-Dalembert	64	1.04	.98	24	16	11	59
9	Calderon-Ellis-Carter-Nowitzki-Wright	61	1.21	1.30	13	14	11	56
10	Harris-Ellis-Crowder-Nowitzki-Wright	56	1.42	1.18	16	10	9	52
11	Harris-Ellis-Carter-Marion-Blair	53	1.11	1.23	-17	7	15	31
12	Calderon-Ellis-Carter-Nowitzki-Blair	39	1.21	1.03	30	16	7	69
13	Harris-Ellis-Carter-Marion-Dalembert	37	1.06	1.01	3	6	8	42
14	Calderon-Ellis-Crowder-Marion-Blair	37	1.14	.95	14	4	4	50
15	Ellis-Carter-Crowder-Marion-Blair	34	1.11	.99	13	8	6	57
16	Harris-Ellis-Carter-Marion-Wright	34	1.17	1.08	-1	8	9	47
17	Harris-Ellis-Carter-Nowitzki-Wright	29	1.23	.90	30	11	3	78
18	Harris-Ellis-Marion-Nowitzki-Wright	27	1.11	1.02	8	6	1	85
19	Calderon-Ellis-Crowder-Nowitzki-Wright	27	1.06	.85	11	6	3	66
20	Calderon-Ellis-Carter-Wright-Blair	25	.96	1.02	-2	3	4	42

Where and when did Calderon play shooting guard

Ellis is a borderline All-Star because the shooting guard position is the weakest in the league. Wall, Irving, Lowry, Rose. It's going to be tough to be an All-Star, especially if Rondo finally gets healthy.