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Cavs are just meant to be favs, wherever lebron plays are faves, from 06 and on lebron has been the favorite to take the chip

Add a roster that looks good on paper round him and its a wrap who is favored again
 

The way you spoke as "we" on the Shumpert trade.

Plus you bagged me pretty hard when I said the Knicks would make the playoffs.
Don't see objective fans very often, if ever
Well you can still catch me be delusional when things look hopeful but with all the recent let downs and my dislike for lik 90% of the Knicks roster aint no way I can't be objective.

Looking at the East now they'll probably be in the playoffs but that aint saying much.

I'm just hoping Phil can work some magic.
 
Last thing ima add, if Wiggins is dealt to get love we are talking about a historically bad defense team on paper

Like historically bad for a title contender, kyrie is horrible on d, dion waiters isnt that much better, varejao only averaged a block a game in one season, and k love is one of the worst rim protectors last season

Lebron is the only bright spot on D and those hyped pieces around him are subpar, with this team they gotta average 110 points a game
 
As long as the guys give an effort on defense they'll be straight.

You still gotta outscore them.

I got Wizards being the toughest team to beat this season in the East. But if KLove teams with Bron they will be instant favorites.
 
Im only saying this cause what about when they sit lebron, we are talking about the runs other teams are gonna go on

offensively they can compete with any team even without k love, and they are signing shooters, Oh ma gawd
 
Dudes favoriting the cavs to take it all as if kevin love = playoff contention. i dunno where yall think love is the key...cuz he sure aint the key on his own team right now. NOT TO TAKE AWAY FROM HOW NICE HE IS... but hes nobody's savior. Beyond that...hes not on the cavs. Yall really calling cavs for the win based on lebron, kyrie, and a rookie. and to get love (an excellent rebounder and second chance scorer whos productivity will drop under the cavs system) they lose the rookie. so lebron kyrie and love = championship to some of yall.... k.


the top teams: spurs, okc, clippers (if they iron out the kinks. on paper they shoulda BEEN there already), warriors

the POSSIBLY top tier teams: miami (new weapons new offense, riley helping spo coach), bulls (if rose comes back healthy), cavs (lebron wiggins and kyrie mesh perfectly and do what theyre capable of), mavericks (new team meshes up well together and everybody does their part)


other than that... who else has even got a chance at the finals?

The heat will not be a top tier team so put down w.e you're smoking. The cavs along with the Bulls & Wiz will probably be the top tier teams from the East imo
 
I hear ya.
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Kobe has been clearly the best SG since 2001

This is factual.

No ones hating on a dudes injury, what the **** does that even mean?

Issue is dudes talk like Rose is going to come back from 2 devastating injuries in back to back seasons and suddenly lead the bulls to a chip.

I remeber after the first injury dudes talked about how all he did was work on his shooting and he's gonna touch the court and do work.

Granted he was coming back from injury, he shooting a sizzling 35% FG and a blistering 34% from 3.

Not to mention his whole game is based on his athletism.

So now, 2 injuries and 2 seasons from a meaningful game and dudes act like he's gonna touch the floor and do great things.

That's why dudes go so hard at Rose, cause of Rose fans.

How about y'all shut the **** up and wait till be plays 10-20-30 *gasp* a full season before we have to hear about how great Rose is.

I must agree. Plus, who knows if he'll tear/break a new ligament this season.

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Best team in the East would have been Indiana. Without Lance, they are the second best. Bulls look good on paper but with all these new pieces we will have to see it play out. I'll give them 2b. Along with the Pacers. C'mon James Young & Marcus Smart, help push Boston into a 7th/8th seed in the East fellas. I have Spurs winning the chip. OKC woulda' been my choice but as long as Manu, Tony & Tim are healthy, KDiggy & Wussel can't get past them. So the best team in the NBA is San Antonio.

Oh and you are fooling yourself if y'all think the Clippers are getting past then second round & The Knicks making the playoffs. Clippers tend to miss defensive assignments when playing an elite team, and somehow always come up short offensively against elite teams. They are just a great regular season team. Knicks roster is so bad :lol I don't even know what the projected starting line up is. Off the top of the head, NY bench is ultra booty. Didn't realize Houston has two of the best positional players in the NBA, on their roster. :eek . Oh and if New Orleans is healthy, watch out Western Conference!
 
JJ Wattsintingville said it perfect.

Rose was dookie last year in his return.

Most NBA players come back to normal after 2 or 3 games. Dude was just bumming it all over.

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SAS is the safest bet to win the finals. They don't rely on 1 single player. It takes the load off of everyone. Poppovich > Phil..

Come at me!
 
Splitter is good to you????

LMAO. He's cheeks.
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Splitter is good to you though? Seriously.

Cant shoot FT's. Can't shoot in general. Avg defender, avg rebounder. He has no strong points. Splitter = Brenden Haywood without the defense and rim protection.
 
 
Splitter is good to you though? Seriously.

Cant shoot FT's. Can't shoot in general. Avg defender, avg rebounder. He has no strong points. Splitter = Brenden Haywood without the defense and rim protection.
There it is. You've highlighted positive qualities about the guy. Hes also a good scorer around the rim, he doesnt finish through contact that well, but he great at finishing AROUND contact. Hes a crafty scorer. He can pass and he can catch. Some of the passes he catches, from Manu especially you would never expect a big to catch. Hes quick and has his head on a swivel.

Is he a top tier big? Nope, not by a long shot, but he isnt trash. I dont even think I could name 15 centers better than Splitter 
 
I hate predictions but I don't see how the Knicks won't make the playoffs, they were victims of Murphy's law last year and still were in the running for that 8th spot. They're gonna make it this year but that's not saying much as others have said.


Spurs making it to 3 consecutive finals :lol, dudes have never repeated , they're old and they play in the minefield west so I doubt they see the finals. They'll still be a quality team but the odds are against them winning it. Last year they were fueled by losing to the Heat and motivated by revenge, can't count on that same passion this year.
 
 
Splitter is good to you though? Seriously.

Cant shoot FT's. Can't shoot in general. Avg defender, avg rebounder. He has no strong points. Splitter = Brenden Haywood without the defense and rim protection.
There it is. You've highlighted positive qualities about the guy. Hes also a good scorer around the rim, he doesnt finish through contact that well, but he great at finishing AROUND contact. Hes a crafty scorer. He can pass and he can catch. Some of the passes he catches, from Manu especially you would never expect a big to catch. Hes quick and has his head on a swivel.


Is he a top tier big? Nope, not by a long shot, but he isnt trash. I dont even think I could name 15 centers better than Splitter 

Nah.

He doodoo.

Gortat
DMC
D12
Al Jeff
Pekovic
Asik
Marc Gasol
Drummond
Tyson
Joakim Noah
Vucevic
Bogut
Brook Lopez
McGee (yes)
Koufkas
Horford
Steven Adams
DeAndre Jordan
John Henson
Dieng
Hibbert

Who here isn't better?

Pick them out individually and I bet its still more than 15.
 
 
 
 
Splitter is good to you though? Seriously.

Cant shoot FT's. Can't shoot in general. Avg defender, avg rebounder. He has no strong points. Splitter = Brenden Haywood without the defense and rim protection.
There it is. You've highlighted positive qualities about the guy. Hes also a good scorer around the rim, he doesnt finish through contact that well, but he great at finishing AROUND contact. Hes a crafty scorer. He can pass and he can catch. Some of the passes he catches, from Manu especially you would never expect a big to catch. Hes quick and has his head on a swivel.


Is he a top tier big? Nope, not by a long shot, but he isnt trash. I dont even think I could name 15 centers better than Splitter 
Nah.

He doodoo.

Asik
Tyson(Current Tyson Chandler is about two steps away from being a corpse)
Bogut(Hes made of glass)
McGee (yes) (No)
Koufkas
Horford
Steven Adams
John Henson
Dieng
These Nine people arent better than Splitter.  Twenty-One Minus Nine is Twelve.

Even if you take away the three ones that are truly debatable (Chandler, Bogut, and McGee) we're still at 15
 
 
 
 

Splitter is good to you though? Seriously.


Cant shoot FT's. Can't shoot in general. Avg defender, avg rebounder. He has no strong points. Splitter = Brenden Haywood without the defense and rim protection.
There it is. You've highlighted positive qualities about the guy. Hes also a good scorer around the rim, he doesnt finish through contact that well, but he great at finishing AROUND contact. Hes a crafty scorer. He can pass and he can catch. Some of the passes he catches, from Manu especially you would never expect a big to catch. Hes quick and has his head on a swivel.



Is he a top tier big? Nope, not by a long shot, but he isnt trash. I dont even think I could name 15 centers better than Splitter 


Nah.


He doodoo.


Asik

Tyson(Current Tyson Chandler is about two steps away from being a corpse)

Bogut(Hes made of glass)

McGee (yes) (No)

Koufkas

Horford

Steven Adams

John Henson

Dieng
These Nine people arent better than Splitter.  Twenty-One Minus Nine is Twelve.

Even if you take away the three ones that are truly debatable (Chandler, Bogut, and McGee) we're still at 15

Son. Stop trolling.
 
You just said Steven Adams, Gorgui Dieng and Kosta Koufos were better than the starting C on the championship Spurs and a major piece of that team for the last 2 years. And you're calling him a troll?

Splitter is good. That's just a fact. If he wasn't, Pop wouldn't play him, Spurs wouldn't pay him. He doesn't put up big numbers but he plays good defense, is a good passer, has a high BBIQ and finishes well enough. Mentioning boneheaded, terrible defense-playing McGee over Splitter tells me everything I need to know about your argument. There's a reason McGee can't get PT on good teams.
 
You can put any of those Centers on the Spurs and they'll flourish. Splitter is bum status.

Bonner is nice too huh?

Pop is the reason.
 
 Son. Stop trolling.

You just said Steven Adams, Gorgui Dieng and Kosta Koufos were better than the starting C on the championship Spurs and a major piece of that team for the last 2 years. And you're calling him a troll?

Splitter is good. That's just a fact. If he wasn't, Pop wouldn't play him, Spurs wouldn't pay him. He doesn't put up big numbers but he plays good defense, is a good passer, has a high BBIQ and finishes well enough. Mentioning boneheaded, terrible defense-playing McGee over Splitter tells me everything I need to know about your argument. There's a reason McGee can't get PT on good teams.
I'm saying though, hes not gonna stuff the stat sheet but hes a productive player and does a lot of things very well.
You can put any of those Centers on the Spurs and they'll flourish. Splitter is bum status.

Bonner is nice too huh?

Pop is the reason.
Come on now...... You didnt see me say this about Baynes or Ayers
 
Dieng over Splitter? I don't even
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Dudes saying cavs are gonna be a terrible defensive team like lebron wont have them up the intensity on that side


Healthy wizards coming out the east tho
 
IMO the Hawks will make the playoffs before the Knicks. The Hawks are getting back Al Horford, and have a year of chemistry. Plus, the Hawks are the one team in the East that make it every year, ranging from a 4-8 seed.
 
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